The Raheem "The joy of a dream" Mostert thread!

Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:

Originally posted by JimmyWhy:

Well if you want to be paid as much as Tevin Coleman then that's the kind of performance you need to have.

Its the point people are missing, Coleman had pretty much 3 1,000 yard seasons. A great pass catcher as well. There's a reason he got paid what he did. Mostert has to prove he can do the same.

Coleman has 628, 800, 544 rushing yards the past 3 yrs...pretty much?

There's a reason he basically got a one yr deal for $3.5M and a team-option deal in 2020. He's a avg COP back.

he has to prove he can do the same Lol.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:

Originally posted by JimmyWhy:
Well if you want to be paid as much as Tevin Coleman then that's the kind of performance you need to have.

Its the point people are missing, Coleman had pretty much 3 1,000 yard seasons. A great pass catcher as well. There's a reason he got paid what he did. Mostert has to prove he can do the same.

Coleman has 628, 800, 544 rushing yards the past 3 yrs...pretty much?

There's a reason he basically got a one yr deal for $3.5M and a team-option deal in 2020. He's a avg COP back.

he has to prove he can do the same Lol.

Coleman at 6'1" isn't a COP back - Mostert is more of the change of pace back.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:

Originally posted by JimmyWhy:
Well if you want to be paid as much as Tevin Coleman then that's the kind of performance you need to have.

Its the point people are missing, Coleman had pretty much 3 1,000 yard seasons. A great pass catcher as well. There's a reason he got paid what he did. Mostert has to prove he can do the same.

Coleman has 628, 800, 544 rushing yards the past 3 yrs...pretty much?

There's a reason he basically got a one yr deal for $3.5M and a team-option deal in 2020. He's a avg COP back.

he has to prove he can do the same Lol.

Coleman at 6'1" isn't a COP back - Mostert is more of the change of pace back.

What in the world does being 6'1" have to do if you're a COP back or not? CMC is 5-11 Mostert is 5-10. Gore is 5-9, Freeman is 5-8, Chubb is 5-10, Aaron Jones 5-9, Dalvin Cook 5-10 etc etc...

I'm sorry Mayo that makes absolutely no sense. It's not like Coleman is 225lbs or something either (he's like 205lbs). He's the same player as Mostert. They're BOTH one cut OZ runners with speed. Only difference is one has much better balance and vision

The league in general doesn't have a bell cow back...both dudes can be considered COP backs which is fine.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:

Originally posted by JimmyWhy:
Well if you want to be paid as much as Tevin Coleman then that's the kind of performance you need to have.

Its the point people are missing, Coleman had pretty much 3 1,000 yard seasons. A great pass catcher as well. There's a reason he got paid what he did. Mostert has to prove he can do the same.

Coleman has 628, 800, 544 rushing yards the past 3 yrs...pretty much?

There's a reason he basically got a one yr deal for $3.5M and a team-option deal in 2020. He's a avg COP back.

he has to prove he can do the same Lol.

Coleman at 6'1" isn't a COP back - Mostert is more of the change of pace back.

What in the world does being 6'1" have to do if you're a COP back or not? CMC is 5-11 Mostert is 5-10. Gore is 5-9, Freeman is 5-8, Chubb is 5-10, Aaron Jones 5-9, Dalvin Cook 5-10 etc etc...

I'm sorry Mayo that makes absolutely no sense. It's not like Coleman is 225lbs or something either (he's like 205lbs). He's the same player as Mostert. They're BOTH one cut OZ runners with speed. Only difference is one has much better balance and vision

The league in general doesn't have a bell cow back...both dudes can be considered COP backs which is fine.

I hear you, NY85 - I'd just rather have Coleman soften up the DL than have Mostert come in a rack up the yards.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Coleman has 628, 800, 544 rushing yards the past 3 yrs...pretty much?

There's a reason he basically got a one yr deal for $3.5M and a team-option deal in 2020. He's a avg COP back.

he has to prove he can do the same Lol.

Sorry i meant 3 1,000 all purpose yards season. 2016, 2017, and 2018 he was one of the most explosive running backs in the nfl. He was so dangerous. He took a paycut and decided to play for SF.

Originally posted by mayo49:
I hear you, NY85 - I'd just rather have Coleman soften up the DL than have Mostert come in a rack up the yards.

He doesn't "soften" anything up though lol. He's not a big bruising back. Nothing about his game equals to being super physical and breaking tackles.

I have no idea how people come up with that

Originally posted by NCommand:

#49ers and Raheem Mostert are in 'a lot better place' since trade request, says @RapSheet

- via @KNBR with Papa and @JohnLundRadio https://t.co/Ct8EYNEtFt

— 49ers Webzone (@49erswebzone) July 22, 2020

Must've learned/realized hes not getting paid elsewhere.

Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Coleman has 628, 800, 544 rushing yards the past 3 yrs...pretty much?

There's a reason he basically got a one yr deal for $3.5M and a team-option deal in 2020. He's a avg COP back.

he has to prove he can do the same Lol.

Sorry i meant 3 1,000 all purpose yards season. 2016, 2017, and 2018 he was one of the most explosive running backs in the nfl. He was so dangerous. He took a paycut and decided to play for SF.

Pay cut my ass...running backs heading into their first real contract don't take pay cuts. There simply wasn't a big market for him. It's tough being a avg back limited to a certain scheme to big money. It's fine because it was a sweet deal for SF. Dude didn't even live up to that though. I hope he can make a massive turnaround in a contract yr.

FWIW this is the s**t I'm talking about, this was his last yr in ATL when he basically was the lead dog (Freeman was hurt)

https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2018/12/12/18137550/tevin-coleman-48th-in-league-in-yards-after-contact-very-bad-never-breaks-tackles-devonta-freeman

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I hear you, NY85 - I'd just rather have Coleman soften up the DL than have Mostert come in a rack up the yards.

He doesn't "soften" anything up though lol. He's not a big bruising back. Nothing about his game equals to being super physical and breaking tackles.

I have no idea how people come up with that

He might not be a real big back, but compared to Mostert, I think that's why Shanny starts him.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I hear you, NY85 - I'd just rather have Coleman soften up the DL than have Mostert come in a rack up the yards.

He doesn't "soften" anything up though lol. He's not a big bruising back. Nothing about his game equals to being super physical and breaking tackles.

I have no idea how people come up with that

He might not be a real big back, but compared to Mostert, I think that's why Shanny starts him.

Read this article it was his last yr in ATL, when he was the lead dog...FWIW they both weigh the same and Coleman is 2 inches taller...which actually makes him skinnier. Tall skinny RB is not what you want.

https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2018/12/12/18137550/tevin-coleman-48th-in-league-in-yards-after-contact-very-bad-never-breaks-tackles-devonta-freeman

Starting means nothing when it's basically the first series and that's it. SF rotated RBs all yr.

Mostert and Coleman ended up with the same amount of carries. One avg 4 ypc and the other avg 5.6. One has great vision/balance for this scheme. The other has been avg to below in that department.

Glad Raheem came to his senses

He is being poorly advised.

Is this dude the worst agent of all time? Mostert is the one who is (literally) paying for his incompetence.

That agent didn't adequately protect him in this contract. Tried to renegotiate with absolutely zero leverage. Went public. Made things worse for his client. Then has to have his client slowly walk back their stance. Problem is - now it's playing out in public. This could have all been done privately.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I hear you, NY85 - I'd just rather have Coleman soften up the DL than have Mostert come in a rack up the yards.

He doesn't "soften" anything up though lol. He's not a big bruising back. Nothing about his game equals to being super physical and breaking tackles.

I have no idea how people come up with that

He might not be a real big back, but compared to Mostert, I think that's why Shanny starts him.

Read this article it was his last yr in ATL, when he was the lead dog...FWIW they both weigh the same and Coleman is 2 inches taller...which actually makes him skinnier. Tall skinny RB is not what you want.

https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2018/12/12/18137550/tevin-coleman-48th-in-league-in-yards-after-contact-very-bad-never-breaks-tackles-devonta-freeman

Starting means nothing when it's basically the first series and that's it. SF rotated RBs all yr.

Mostert and Coleman ended up with the same amount of carries. One avg 4 ypc and the other avg 5.6. One has great vision/balance for this scheme. The other has been avg to below in that department.

I just can't change your mind can I? I still like Coleman on first down, then bring in Mostert for 2nd and 3rd down.

I get what mayo is saying as I think COP refers moreso to getting the defense used to a look (typically as a starter),...forcing them to show their hand,....then bringing in something else that they're probably not ready for,..especially on later downs.

I don't think the # of carries or yards have nearly as much to do with it as does the strategy involved from series to series and down to down. All-Purpose backs can ride alot of pine these days as well. They're still All-Purpose,...something Mostert really hasnt shown over his career.