QB CJ Beathard - signs with Jacksonville | Page 559

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"He processes the game so well, tough as s---. Got a chance. He reminds me a lot of Kirk Cousins" - head coach Kyle Shanahan HEIGHT: 6'2" WEIGHT: 219LBS. ARM LENGTH: 30 5/8" HANDS: 9 3/8" DRAFT ANALYSIS: "C.J. Beathard had mostly fifth-, sixth-round grades from the teams I spoke with. Obviously has great NFL lineage, the Beathard name famous for talent evaluation, and I thought his tape was down a little bit this year. I thought he was better as a junior. Very smart, understands where to go with the football, better arm than expected when you really sit down and study him. I haven't seen him live, and the people who went to his Pro Day told me he had an excellent day." -- Mike Mayock OVERVIEW A lot of people know that the Hawkeyes' signal caller is the grandson of former NFL general manager Bobby Beathard -- but now C.J. is a father in own right after he and his girlfriend welcomed a girl (Lyla) into their world in December. He was the most prolific quarterback in Tennessee his final two years of high school (runner-up for one of the state's Mr. Football awards). As a redshirt freshman, Beathard played a little (9-27, TD, two INT) and the following year he saw the field more often (nine games, one start, 645 yards, five TD, two INT). He was given the reins of the offense as a junior, earning team MVP and second-team All-Big Ten honors by completing 61.6 percent of his passes for 2,809 pass yards, 17 touchdowns and just five interceptions. Beathard wasn't as effective as a senior (56.5 completion pct, 1,929 yards, 147TD, 10 INT) but is still considered a solid developmental prospect. ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Played in pro-style passing attack, working under center and from shotgun. Capable and confident rolling out. Squares shoulders to deliver strikes. Completed 57 percent of his passes outside of the pocket at Iowa. Showed improved touch on short throws. Footwork and pocket mechanics look solid. Throws with some natural accuracy despite pedestrian completion percentage. Better tape in 2015 as he had to overcome injuries to key targets in 2016. Has the arm strength to throw the deep out without laboring. Trusts his line and keeps eyes downfield. Plays with relatively calm demeanor. Good feel and timing for screen game. Knee brace slowed him some during senior season, but he has ability to escape the heat. Team leader with ability to handle adversity. Won't take unnecessary chances. WEAKNESSES Hesitation is a noticeable issue. Often late to pull trigger on throws toward the sideline, forcing receivers into boundary and out of the catch. Slow field scanner who tends to lock into a single side. Too much eye-balling and not enough manipulating. Poor feel for pocket pressure. Two-year sack total of 58 is too high in play-action attack. Anchors deep in pocket and rarely climbs pocket to safe harbor. Oblivious to backside pressure until it's too late. Needs more air under the long ball. Deep-ball accuracy has been terrible. Completed under 30 percent of throws beyond 20 yards in last two seasons at Iowa. Completed just 43 percent of throws beyond line of scrimmage to right sideline. DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6-7 NFL COMPARISON Tom Savage BOTTOM LINE Pro-style quarterback who dealt with nagging injuries to key pass catchers and himself in 2016. His 2015 tape was more impressive, but deep-ball accuracy issues, poor pocket awareness, and unnecessary hesitation as a passer shows up in both seasons. Beathard plays checkers with safeties rather than chess, which could always hinder his ability to attack down the field with success. Could be a career backup who finds himself in the action at some point down the road. -Lance Zierlein

Sep 19, 2019 at 4:42 PM

#8371

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Rothlisberger. ...surgery elbow

Brees ..surgery thumb throwing hand

Darnold out with mono (could be 2-4 mos)

Siemian , his replacement is out with ligaments in ankle.

Cam Newton....foot sprain

Nick Foles (Jax) out broken collarbone

All the above are QBs who are out. We have a pistol in Mullie and a brave heart in CJ. He is the guttiest qB out there. Big arm, tough, strong.

Wentz in Philly was in the blue tent for concussion protocol...he went back in but...

Somehow, it just seems that given time, teams will be coming to us...."could we talk with CJ?" Please.

Meantime, as long as JG is still healing from ACL surgery 11 mos ago, carrying a 3rd QB is just good sense. If somebody with the missing QB disease comes to us...well, then we can consider it. For now, tho, i would play the cards we have. And if that means carrying 3 QBs on a team no one knows how good it is...that seems like good advice....because we may just be a whole lot better than many realize.

[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Sep 19, 2019 at 4:45 PM ]

Sep 19, 2019 at 5:37 PM

#8372

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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Beathard is like a stronger armed, more athletic Mark Sanchez. Turnover prone, but has the ability to make a variety of plays if given time to.

Excellent take!

When you have to say "if given time", you are saying he is slow on reads and progressions, and therefor he has no value in the NFL.

Sep 19, 2019 at 5:54 PM

#8373

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Meanwhile, the Jags offense since Foles got hurt in Game 1 has looked better than it has in years behind a 6th round pick.

Sep 19, 2019 at 6:04 PM

#8374

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NOBODY is trading for cj

Sep 19, 2019 at 6:14 PM

#8375

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Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Meanwhile, the Jags offense since Foles got hurt in Game 1 has looked better than it has in years behind a 6th round pick.

Too soon.

But CJ still sucks and was over-drafted by a GM and HC who overvalue certain players.

Sep 19, 2019 at 6:19 PM

#8376

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Originally posted by Scottie15:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Meanwhile, the Jags offense since Foles got hurt in Game 1 has looked better than it has in years behind a 6th round pick.

Too soon.

But CJ still sucks and was over-drafted by a GM and HC who overvalue certain players.

Just sayin', CJ's value as a backup is zippo. Teams will be willing to take chances to try to find a gem (even CJ's biggest supporters can't argue that he's a gem of a backup).

Sep 19, 2019 at 6:21 PM

#8377

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Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Meanwhile, the Jags offense since Foles got hurt in Game 1 has looked better than it has in years behind a 6th round pick.

Meanwhile Mariota is playing worse than beathard would be

Sep 19, 2019 at 6:34 PM

#8378

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Originally posted by Scottie15:
Too soon.

But CJ still sucks and was over-drafted by a GM and HC who overvalue certain players.

True, but it just goes to show that drafting college quarterbacks to play in the NFL is always a crap shoot, because it's a different mental skill set that is not demonstrated in college. Maybe the odds are better if you draft one real high, but the risk is commensurate.

Sep 19, 2019 at 6:36 PM

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Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Meanwhile Mariota is playing worse than beathard would be

There's that commensurate risk again.

Sep 19, 2019 at 6:44 PM

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Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Meanwhile, the Jags offense since Foles got hurt in Game 1 has looked better than it has in years behind a 6th round pick.

Meanwhile Mariota is playing worse than beathard would be

CJ is 1-9 as a starter. Think whatever you will of Mariota, he's shown far more than that over the years since he was drafted. The Titans have been 9-7 three straight years coming into this year. I don't think any GM in the league is nuts enough to think CJ is going to manage that.

Sep 19, 2019 at 7:25 PM

#8381

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Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Meanwhile, the Jags offense since Foles got hurt in Game 1 has looked better than it has in years behind a 6th round pick.

Meanwhile Mariota is playing worse than beathard would be

CJ is 1-9 as a starter. Think whatever you will of Mariota, he's shown far more than that over the years since he was drafted. The Titans have been 9-7 three straight years coming into this year. I don't think any GM in the league is nuts enough to think CJ is going to manage that.

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Just reporting what I see bruv. Mariota looks like s**t..... on a better team than cj had last year.

Sep 19, 2019 at 7:57 PM

#8382

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Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Meanwhile, the Jags offense since Foles got hurt in Game 1 has looked better than it has in years behind a 6th round pick.

Meanwhile Mariota is playing worse than beathard would be

CJ is 1-9 as a starter. Think whatever you will of Mariota, he's shown far more than that over the years since he was drafted. The Titans have been 9-7 three straight years coming into this year. I don't think any GM in the league is nuts enough to think CJ is going to manage that.
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Just reporting what I see bruv. Mariota looks like s**t..... on a better team than cj had last year.

CJ would be sacked 15 times against Jax's pass rush. 4 INTS. CJ's team last year? The team that was better than the one Jimmy G. won 5 straight with the year before? The team that BDN won 3 games with? CJ sucks, and no GM in the league would speak of Mariota and him in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.

Sep 19, 2019 at 8:04 PM

#8383

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Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Meanwhile, the Jags offense since Foles got hurt in Game 1 has looked better than it has in years behind a 6th round pick.

Meanwhile Mariota is playing worse than beathard would be

CJ is 1-9 as a starter. Think whatever you will of Mariota, he's shown far more than that over the years since he was drafted. The Titans have been 9-7 three straight years coming into this year. I don't think any GM in the league is nuts enough to think CJ is going to manage that.
.

Just reporting what I see bruv. Mariota looks like s**t..... on a better team than cj had last year.

CJ would be sacked 15 times against Jax's pass rush. 4 INTS. CJ's team last year? The team that was better than the one Jimmy G. won 5 straight with the year before? The team that BDN won 3 games with? CJ sucks, and no GM in the league would speak of Mariota and him in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.

I'm not talking about GMs. I'm just watching a football game that's on tv right now. In the football game I'm watching, Marcus Mariota is performing terribly, and CJ would be doing better if he were playing instead of Mariota

Also, I'm just kidding. CJ sucks.

[ Edited by 5thSFG on Sep 19, 2019 at 8:07 PM ]

Sep 19, 2019 at 8:14 PM

#8384

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Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Meanwhile, the Jags offense since Foles got hurt in Game 1 has looked better than it has in years behind a 6th round pick.

Meanwhile Mariota is playing worse than beathard would be

CJ is 1-9 as a starter. Think whatever you will of Mariota, he's shown far more than that over the years since he was drafted. The Titans have been 9-7 three straight years coming into this year. I don't think any GM in the league is nuts enough to think CJ is going to manage that.
.

Just reporting what I see bruv. Mariota looks like s**t..... on a better team than cj had last year.

CJ would be sacked 15 times against Jax's pass rush. 4 INTS. CJ's team last year? The team that was better than the one Jimmy G. won 5 straight with the year before? The team that BDN won 3 games with? CJ sucks, and no GM in the league would speak of Mariota and him in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.

I'm not talking about GMs. I'm just watching a football game that's on tv right now. In the football game I'm watching, Marcus Mariota is performing terribly, and CJ would be doing better if he were playing instead of Mariota

Also, I'm just kidding. CJ sucks.

28 wins in 3 years and 3 games. Mariota is a mediocre QB, but he's not chopped liver. Well, that's not fair, I happen to love liverwurst.

[ Edited by RTFirefly on Sep 19, 2019 at 8:14 PM ]

Sep 19, 2019 at 8:34 PM

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Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Meanwhile, the Jags offense since Foles got hurt in Game 1 has looked better than it has in years behind a 6th round pick.

Meanwhile Mariota is playing worse than beathard would be

CJ is 1-9 as a starter. Think whatever you will of Mariota, he's shown far more than that over the years since he was drafted. The Titans have been 9-7 three straight years coming into this year. I don't think any GM in the league is nuts enough to think CJ is going to manage that.
.

Just reporting what I see bruv. Mariota looks like s**t..... on a better team than cj had last year.

CJ would be sacked 15 times against Jax's pass rush. 4 INTS. CJ's team last year? The team that was better than the one Jimmy G. won 5 straight with the year before? The team that BDN won 3 games with? CJ sucks, and no GM in the league would speak of Mariota and him in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.

I'm not talking about GMs. I'm just watching a football game that's on tv right now. In the football game I'm watching, Marcus Mariota is performing terribly, and CJ would be doing better if he were playing instead of Mariota

Also, I'm just kidding. CJ sucks.

28 wins in 3 years and 3 games. Mariota is a mediocre QB, but he's not chopped liver. Well, that's not fair, I happen to love liverwurst.

Mariota is clearly better than CJ, but it doesn't matter. Neither one is good enough, and we looked for someone better, and the Titan's need to do the same.

[ Edited by BOI49er on Sep 19, 2019 at 8:35 PM ]