QB CJ Beathard - signs with Jacksonville | Page 482

slowriot · 2017-04-28T20:36:13-07:00

"He processes the game so well, tough as s---. Got a chance. He reminds me a lot of Kirk Cousins" - head coach Kyle Shanahan HEIGHT: 6'2" WEIGHT: 219LBS. ARM LENGTH: 30 5/8" HANDS: 9 3/8" DRAFT ANALYSIS: "C.J. Beathard had mostly fifth-, sixth-round grades from the teams I spoke with. Obviously has great NFL lineage, the Beathard name famous for talent evaluation, and I thought his tape was down a little bit this year. I thought he was better as a junior. Very smart, understands where to go with the football, better arm than expected when you really sit down and study him. I haven't seen him live, and the people who went to his Pro Day told me he had an excellent day." -- Mike Mayock OVERVIEW A lot of people know that the Hawkeyes' signal caller is the grandson of former NFL general manager Bobby Beathard -- but now C.J. is a father in own right after he and his girlfriend welcomed a girl (Lyla) into their world in December. He was the most prolific quarterback in Tennessee his final two years of high school (runner-up for one of the state's Mr. Football awards). As a redshirt freshman, Beathard played a little (9-27, TD, two INT) and the following year he saw the field more often (nine games, one start, 645 yards, five TD, two INT). He was given the reins of the offense as a junior, earning team MVP and second-team All-Big Ten honors by completing 61.6 percent of his passes for 2,809 pass yards, 17 touchdowns and just five interceptions. Beathard wasn't as effective as a senior (56.5 completion pct, 1,929 yards, 147TD, 10 INT) but is still considered a solid developmental prospect. ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Played in pro-style passing attack, working under center and from shotgun. Capable and confident rolling out. Squares shoulders to deliver strikes. Completed 57 percent of his passes outside of the pocket at Iowa. Showed improved touch on short throws. Footwork and pocket mechanics look solid. Throws with some natural accuracy despite pedestrian completion percentage. Better tape in 2015 as he had to overcome injuries to key targets in 2016. Has the arm strength to throw the deep out without laboring. Trusts his line and keeps eyes downfield. Plays with relatively calm demeanor. Good feel and timing for screen game. Knee brace slowed him some during senior season, but he has ability to escape the heat. Team leader with ability to handle adversity. Won't take unnecessary chances. WEAKNESSES Hesitation is a noticeable issue. Often late to pull trigger on throws toward the sideline, forcing receivers into boundary and out of the catch. Slow field scanner who tends to lock into a single side. Too much eye-balling and not enough manipulating. Poor feel for pocket pressure. Two-year sack total of 58 is too high in play-action attack. Anchors deep in pocket and rarely climbs pocket to safe harbor. Oblivious to backside pressure until it's too late. Needs more air under the long ball. Deep-ball accuracy has been terrible. Completed under 30 percent of throws beyond 20 yards in last two seasons at Iowa. Completed just 43 percent of throws beyond line of scrimmage to right sideline. DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6-7 NFL COMPARISON Tom Savage BOTTOM LINE Pro-style quarterback who dealt with nagging injuries to key pass catchers and himself in 2016. His 2015 tape was more impressive, but deep-ball accuracy issues, poor pocket awareness, and unnecessary hesitation as a passer shows up in both seasons. Beathard plays checkers with safeties rather than chess, which could always hinder his ability to attack down the field with success. Could be a career backup who finds himself in the action at some point down the road. -Lance Zierlein

Oct 1, 2018 at 9:51 AM

#7216

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Originally posted by philosoraptor:
The offense did enough to win, and CJ was a huge part of that considering we had a nearly nonexistent running game. I was throughly impressed with his progression(assuming this is who he is now, which is by no means a definitive thing). Although, it won't be enough to get us to .500, the amount of injuries and the lack of pass defense and tackling is going to haunt us for the entire year.

20 pta is not enough to win against even an average offense, add two turnovers and giving the opponents great field position and it is not enough.

Much improved Beathard though.

Oct 1, 2018 at 9:52 AM

#7217

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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
yes he can get hit, but he did not play well by any stretch of the imagination yesterday. we've gotten so used to s**tty offense that you guys are excited about this dude?

No one is "excited" about how he played. To say he did not play well by any stretch of the imagination yesterday is absurd. He played fine. Not amazing. Not bad. Fine. Like I said last night, you could make a logical argument that yesterday was the best game a Niner quarterback has played all season long.

just because you made an argument yesterday doesnt mean its true sir lol. please explain how he played better than Jimmy did his first two games this year? he threw two picks yesterday that he lazerbeamed off of peoples hands. thats what Kap used to do before he became a vegan and was breaking peoples fingers and his throws seemed to sail on him most of the time. CJ was ok but theres no way he outplayed Jimmy's stupid ass

Oct 1, 2018 at 9:53 AM

#7218

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Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
yes he can get hit, but he did not play well by any stretch of the imagination yesterday. we've gotten so used to s**tty offense that you guys are excited about this dude?

#OverreactionMondays

Oct 1, 2018 at 9:55 AM

#7219

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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
20 pta is not enough to win against even an average offense, add two turnovers and giving the opponents great field position and it is not enough.

Much improved Beathard though.

you are right. bottom line 20 will not do it vs any team. cards included. with our defense

Oct 1, 2018 at 9:58 AM

#7220

LarryLestersBuns
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Originally posted by scotthawk1964:

Oct 1, 2018 at 9:59 AM

#7221

cciowa
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
yes he can get hit, but he did not play well by any stretch of the imagination yesterday. we've gotten so used to s**tty offense that you guys are excited about this dude?

#OverreactionMondays

most of us are just excited he did not stink up the joint. most of his mistakes were not on him. i said most.. and at least he did put the team in a spot to win. now sad to say.. just like last year under his play and with almost the same team. we again found a way to lose.

Oct 1, 2018 at 10:03 AM

#7222

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
yes he can get hit, but he did not play well by any stretch of the imagination yesterday. we've gotten so used to s**tty offense that you guys are excited about this dude?

#OverreactionMondays

Don't worry, they will span the rest of the days of the week too

Oct 1, 2018 at 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:
The offense did enough to win, and CJ was a huge part of that considering we had a nearly nonexistent running game. I was throughly impressed with his progression(assuming this is who he is now, which is by no means a definitive thing). Although, it won't be enough to get us to .500, the amount of injuries and the lack of pass defense and tackling is going to haunt us for the entire year.

20 pta is not enough to win against even an average offense, add two turnovers and giving the opponents great field position and it is not enough.

Much improved Beathard though.

Point taken. I did not take out the defensive touchdown. One of the interceptions aren't really on him though.

Oct 1, 2018 at 10:13 AM

#7224

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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
yes he can get hit, but he did not play well by any stretch of the imagination yesterday. we've gotten so used to s**tty offense that you guys are excited about this dude?

#OverreactionMondays
most of us are just excited he did not stink up the joint. most of his mistakes were not on him. i said most.. and at least he did put the team in a spot to win. now sad to say.. just like last year under his play and with almost the same team. we again found a way to lose.

An interception with three minutes left in the game.

Oct 1, 2018 at 10:15 AM

#7225

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Originally posted by philosoraptor:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by philosoraptor:
The offense did enough to win, and CJ was a huge part of that considering we had a nearly nonexistent running game. I was throughly impressed with his progression(assuming this is who he is now, which is by no means a definitive thing). Although, it won't be enough to get us to .500, the amount of injuries and the lack of pass defense and tackling is going to haunt us for the entire year.

20 pta is not enough to win against even an average offense, add two turnovers and giving the opponents great field position and it is not enough.

Much improved Beathard though.
Point taken. I did not take out the defensive touchdown. One of the interceptions aren't really on him though.

Agreed. Celek gave it away.

Oct 1, 2018 at 10:29 AM

#7226

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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
yes he can get hit, but he did not play well by any stretch of the imagination yesterday. we've gotten so used to s**tty offense that you guys are excited about this dude?

No one is "excited" about how he played. To say he did not play well by any stretch of the imagination yesterday is absurd. He played fine. Not amazing. Not bad. Fine. Like I said last night, you could make a logical argument that yesterday was the best game a Niner quarterback has played all season long.

Agree. Beathard made a ton of plays. Even his couple of questionable throws were technically on the money but would've required great plays from receivers. You'd like to see him get rid of it faster on the game ending play but... Outside of that, there were no turnovers or other major mistakes he was at fault for. We didn't have much of a running game and we were without each of our three best offensive linemen for various stretches of the game.

[ Edited by OnTheClock on Oct 1, 2018 at 10:30 AM ]

Oct 1, 2018 at 10:40 AM

#7227

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Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
yes he can get hit, but he did not play well by any stretch of the imagination yesterday. we've gotten so used to s**tty offense that you guys are excited about this dude?

#OverreactionMondays
most of us are just excited he did not stink up the joint. most of his mistakes were not on him. i said most.. and at least he did put the team in a spot to win. now sad to say.. just like last year under his play and with almost the same team. we again found a way to lose.

An interception with three minutes left in the game.

it may not have been on him. but it was what it was and we saw the result. point taken. i just think we are stuck with him for the rest of the year? he would have to get hurt or just play horrible sunday in the first half to get the kid in??

Oct 1, 2018 at 10:41 AM

#7228

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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Agree. Beathard made a ton of plays. Even his couple of questionable throws were technically on the money but would've required great plays from receivers. You'd like to see him get rid of it faster on the game ending play but... Outside of that, there were no turnovers or other major mistakes he was at fault for. We didn't have much of a running game and we were without each of our three best offensive linemen for various stretches of the game.

i understand the injuries but man we have to run the ball against anyone. we can not be so arrogant to assume we can win sunday cuz the cards are below par

Oct 1, 2018 at 10:44 AM

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I wish his talent was as big as his heart.

Oct 1, 2018 at 10:50 AM

#7230

mayo49
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I wish his talent was as big as his heart.

What do you mean? He has plenty of talent.