QB CJ Beathard - signs with Jacksonville | Page 480

slowriot · 2017-04-28T20:36:13-07:00

"He processes the game so well, tough as s---. Got a chance. He reminds me a lot of Kirk Cousins" - head coach Kyle Shanahan HEIGHT: 6'2" WEIGHT: 219LBS. ARM LENGTH: 30 5/8" HANDS: 9 3/8" DRAFT ANALYSIS: "C.J. Beathard had mostly fifth-, sixth-round grades from the teams I spoke with. Obviously has great NFL lineage, the Beathard name famous for talent evaluation, and I thought his tape was down a little bit this year. I thought he was better as a junior. Very smart, understands where to go with the football, better arm than expected when you really sit down and study him. I haven't seen him live, and the people who went to his Pro Day told me he had an excellent day." -- Mike Mayock OVERVIEW A lot of people know that the Hawkeyes' signal caller is the grandson of former NFL general manager Bobby Beathard -- but now C.J. is a father in own right after he and his girlfriend welcomed a girl (Lyla) into their world in December. He was the most prolific quarterback in Tennessee his final two years of high school (runner-up for one of the state's Mr. Football awards). As a redshirt freshman, Beathard played a little (9-27, TD, two INT) and the following year he saw the field more often (nine games, one start, 645 yards, five TD, two INT). He was given the reins of the offense as a junior, earning team MVP and second-team All-Big Ten honors by completing 61.6 percent of his passes for 2,809 pass yards, 17 touchdowns and just five interceptions. Beathard wasn't as effective as a senior (56.5 completion pct, 1,929 yards, 147TD, 10 INT) but is still considered a solid developmental prospect. ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Played in pro-style passing attack, working under center and from shotgun. Capable and confident rolling out. Squares shoulders to deliver strikes. Completed 57 percent of his passes outside of the pocket at Iowa. Showed improved touch on short throws. Footwork and pocket mechanics look solid. Throws with some natural accuracy despite pedestrian completion percentage. Better tape in 2015 as he had to overcome injuries to key targets in 2016. Has the arm strength to throw the deep out without laboring. Trusts his line and keeps eyes downfield. Plays with relatively calm demeanor. Good feel and timing for screen game. Knee brace slowed him some during senior season, but he has ability to escape the heat. Team leader with ability to handle adversity. Won't take unnecessary chances. WEAKNESSES Hesitation is a noticeable issue. Often late to pull trigger on throws toward the sideline, forcing receivers into boundary and out of the catch. Slow field scanner who tends to lock into a single side. Too much eye-balling and not enough manipulating. Poor feel for pocket pressure. Two-year sack total of 58 is too high in play-action attack. Anchors deep in pocket and rarely climbs pocket to safe harbor. Oblivious to backside pressure until it's too late. Needs more air under the long ball. Deep-ball accuracy has been terrible. Completed under 30 percent of throws beyond 20 yards in last two seasons at Iowa. Completed just 43 percent of throws beyond line of scrimmage to right sideline. DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6-7 NFL COMPARISON Tom Savage BOTTOM LINE Pro-style quarterback who dealt with nagging injuries to key pass catchers and himself in 2016. His 2015 tape was more impressive, but deep-ball accuracy issues, poor pocket awareness, and unnecessary hesitation as a passer shows up in both seasons. Beathard plays checkers with safeties rather than chess, which could always hinder his ability to attack down the field with success. Could be a career backup who finds himself in the action at some point down the road. -Lance Zierlein

Oct 1, 2018 at 8:05 AM

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NCommand
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Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by socal1632:
CJ has matured into a pretty darn good NFL qb. Was getting killed back there. At least one of those picks wasn't on him. San Diego scored points on like 5 straight drives. He is one tough kid
I don't think either of the INT's are on him. Pass protection failed him on the 2nd one.

First one hit the TE in the hand so it's hard to fault him but I really wish he would have hit Morris in the flat. Rivers did it time after time to us. He was uncovered an it was first down.

Bad luck on the int though.

True. But I blame BeatHard for hitting his receiver in the hands. That's the first issue. Haha.

On a side note, every defense should know when we get into the RZ, that's when we target Celek time. The clock might be broken.

Oct 1, 2018 at 8:09 AM

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Originally posted by socal1632:
Anybody putting that loss on CJ shouldn't be aloud to like watch football again

And you shouldn't be allowed to post if you can't spell!

Oct 1, 2018 at 8:10 AM

#7188

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by socal1632:
CJ has matured into a pretty darn good NFL qb. Was getting killed back there. At least one of those picks wasn't on him. San Diego scored points on like 5 straight drives. He is one tough kid
I don't think either of the INT's are on him. Pass protection failed him on the 2nd one.

First one hit the TE in the hand so it's hard to fault him but I really wish he would have hit Morris in the flat. Rivers did it time after time to us. He was uncovered an it was first down.

Bad luck on the int though.

True. But I blame BeatHard for hitting his receiver in the hands. That's the first issue. Haha.

On a side note, every defense should know when we get into the RZ, that's when we target Celek time. The clock might be broken.

My initial look at the play in game was he missed the back in the flat wide open on a spot concept. Looking at it though, Celek needs to make that catch and I'm less inclined to blame the QB. However, a back that wide open on a spot concepts is stealing.

Oct 1, 2018 at 8:25 AM

#7189

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CJ is a gamer. Calm in the pocket. Makes his read. Let it rip. No hesitation. Accurate. Jimmy's release is lighting speed, but Beathard's release ain't too shabby. Whether through 2 offseasons in the offense or taking a page out of Jimmy's MO--he just stand and scan---then BAM!

Jimmy Who

He needs to stay healthy though. Those hits OMFG!

[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Oct 1, 2018 at 8:25 AM ]

Oct 1, 2018 at 8:26 AM

#7190

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Well said cciowa. CJ was the best player on the field. Period. Maybe Kittle is in that argument.

i was pleased with kittle. they should have some chemistry as they both wore that disgraceful flea infected iowa jersey all those years. the second tight end is were we need a serious upgrade in my opinion

Oct 1, 2018 at 8:28 AM

#7191

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Originally posted by NJNiner:

Originally posted by socal1632:
Anybody putting that loss on CJ shouldn't be aloud to like watch football again

And you shouldn't be allowed to post if you can't spell!

then cc should have been banned years ago

Oct 1, 2018 at 8:29 AM

#7192

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Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by socal1632:
CJ has matured into a pretty darn good NFL qb. Was getting killed back there. At least one of those picks wasn't on him. San Diego scored points on like 5 straight drives. He is one tough kid
I don't think either of the INT's are on him. Pass protection failed him on the 2nd one.

First one hit the TE in the hand so it's hard to fault him but I really wish he would have hit Morris in the flat. Rivers did it time after time to us. He was uncovered an it was first down.

Bad luck on the int though.

True. But I blame BeatHard for hitting his receiver in the hands. That's the first issue. Haha.

On a side note, every defense should know when we get into the RZ, that's when we target Celek time. The clock might be broken.

My initial look at the play in game was he missed the back in the flat wide open on a spot concept. Looking at it though, Celek needs to make that catch and I'm less inclined to blame the QB. However, a back that wide open on a spot concepts is stealing.

Totally...either is fine really.

Oct 1, 2018 at 8:29 AM

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Originally posted by socal1632:
CJ has matured into a pretty darn good NFL qb. Was getting killed back there. At least one of those picks wasn't on him. San Diego scored points on like 5 straight drives. He is one tough kid

remember when a few weeks ago people in here were wanting us to go with Mullens as the #2 lol

Oct 1, 2018 at 8:30 AM

#7194

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Dude reminds me of Jeff Garcia

Oct 1, 2018 at 8:33 AM

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Could've won the game. CJ was moving the ball methodically with time on the clock before that last Sack/INT

Oct 1, 2018 at 8:34 AM

#7196

susweel
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Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Dude reminds me of Jeff Garcia

Nah jeff was a winner

Oct 1, 2018 at 8:36 AM

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cciowa
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Originally posted by TheXFactor:
remember when a few weeks ago people in here were wanting us to go with Mullens as the #2 lol

side track for a bit... given cj is the new starter do you think he gets most of practice reps . do you think nick gets alot in practice . do you think after the scare of cj going down yesterday the coaches will increase the work load of the kid? do you think the team will bring a qb like last week and sign one.. i did not mean to put you under the gun?? lol. just wondering aloud as long as you brought up the kid

Oct 1, 2018 at 8:36 AM

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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Could've won the game. CJ was moving the ball methodically with time on the clock before that last Sack/INT

kylef**ked us by burning our time outs. the pick was not on him in my opinion but bottom line. we found a way to lose a winnable game

[ Edited by cciowa on Oct 1, 2018 at 8:37 AM ]

Oct 1, 2018 at 8:37 AM

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Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by socal1632:
CJ has matured into a pretty darn good NFL qb. Was getting killed back there. At least one of those picks wasn't on him. San Diego scored points on like 5 straight drives. He is one tough kid

remember when a few weeks ago people in here were wanting us to go with Mullens as the #2 lol

CJ is a gamer. We can win with him.

Oct 1, 2018 at 8:48 AM

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C J looks fine for a backup for a few games but to rely on him for the rest of the season is asking a lot. Still I'm sure he can show flashes here and there to at least make the games entertaining. He works well with Kittle who is a real up and comer. Great speed for a tight end and he seems to be improving.