Jared Goff

Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Peyton threw 26 TDs as a rookie, on a bad Colts team. He definitely didn't suck. There's no comparison, really, other than both being drafted #1 overall.

Concise and true.

Colts fans left that year knowing they had their guy. Rams fans are leaving this season wondering just how much they f**ked up.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Peyton threw 26 TDs as a rookie, on a bad Colts team. He definitely didn't suck. There's no comparison, really, other than both being drafted #1 overall.

Concise and true.

Colts fans left that year knowing they had their guy. Rams fans are leaving this season wondering just how much they f**ked up.

LMAO. Kinda like us with our QB situation

He is just as much of a bust as Carlos Hyde, Tank, Jimmy Ward, Armstead, and JG.

Originally posted by titan:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Peyton threw 26 TDs as a rookie, on a bad Colts team. He definitely didn't suck. There's no comparison, really, other than both being drafted #1 overall.

Concise and true.

Colts fans left that year knowing they had their guy. Rams fans are leaving this season wondering just how much they f**ked up.

LMAO. Kinda like us with our QB situation

Yeah but our situation isn't as dire. We didn't give up the future for any of our current QBs. And we still have a chance in May to grab a good QB

Originally posted by glorydayz:

He is just as much of a bust as Carlos Hyde, Tank, Jimmy Ward, Armstead, and JG.

Sorry but you are going to have to explain this. I don't see any point of comparison at all.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
He is just as much of a bust as Carlos Hyde, Tank, Jimmy Ward, Armstead, and JG.

I don't think that's how it works.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

He is just as much of a bust as Carlos Hyde, Tank, Jimmy Ward, Armstead, and JG.

I don't think it's compared that way. Haha

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
He is just as much of a bust as Carlos Hyde, Tank, Jimmy Ward, Armstead, and JG.

I don't think that's how it works.

Agreed

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by SFTifoso:
The question should be rephrased to say "was he worth trading all those picks to move up to #1?" So far, hell no.

No quarterback in their rookie year, save for Dan Marino has looked like that in year 1. This isn't even a fair question.

Had the Rams had the #1 overall pick and just selected him, it would be different. The fact that they traded a bunch of future top picks for him and the expectations rise, simple as that. I didn't think he was worth anything close to a Top pick so to see the Rams trade that much ammo and to see him look the way he does is very refreshing. Dude was a loser in college and looks the part early. Newton looked promising. Luck looked promising. Goff looks completely lost and overwhelmed again, it is the ammo that was used to get him as opposed to a team just being in the #1 slot already and taking their guy is the difference.

Goff really reminds me of Alex year 1 just in how they acclimate to the NFL and their offenses. Alex ended up being a pretty good player when all is said and done, but it took a long time for him to realize any of what made him a 1st round pick and never looked like a 1st round pick until after his rookie contract. Can you imagine if we had given up what the Rams did last year to draft Alex? Can you imagine how much harder such a scenario would have made things for Alex?

Almost makes me feel bad for the kid. Almost...


EDIT: This is not a prediction that Goff follows the exact path Smith did, just that the 2 scenarios feel similar after year 1 in the NFL.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

He is just as much of a bust as Carlos Hyde, Tank, Jimmy Ward, Armstead, and JG.

I don't think that's how it works.

Agreed

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

He is just as much of a bust as Carlos Hyde, Tank, Jimmy Ward, Armstead, and JG.

Sorry but you are going to have to explain this. I don't see any point of comparison at all.

This was my sarcastic way of saying if all those guys are given years before we can label them a bust, same should be said for Goff. Now I never liked the kid as a QB, so I am not a Goff supporter. I just think its funny how we as 49ers fans hold other teams players to a different standard than our own players.

Originally posted by titan:
So if you like a QB you only see the best and potential, but if you don't you highlight their Crap!

No, you wait a few years regardless of whether you like him or not. Don't get fooled by fast starts & don't get fooled by slow starts. After a couple of seasons, we'll get to see what Goff is made of. Until then, it's ret**ded to call him a bust or a success.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Lol, he didn't suck for a rookie.

Goff still hasn't shown any signs of life after his rookie contract is done

Lol

Gabbert still in the league bruh

Goff will have a job after his contract expires

what a disappointment for a number 1 overall pick

hes not on the level of winston or mariota for sure

Originally posted by ads_2006:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Lol, he didn't suck for a rookie.

Goff still hasn't shown any signs of life after his rookie contract is done

Lol

Gabbert still in the league bruh

Goff will have a job after his contract expires

Yeah gab still a bust and not with the same team he was drafted by

So right now would you extend him?

Originally posted by glorydayz:

This was my sarcastic way of saying if all those guys are given years before we can label them a bust, same should be said for Goff. Now I never liked the kid as a QB, so I am not a Goff supporter. I just think its funny how we as 49ers fans hold other teams players to a different standard than our own players.

Thank you for clearing that up. I dislike the habit of labelling any player as a bust before he has had a chance to prove himself. Our players frequently get labelled busts by their own fans before they even get to put a uniform on.

Regarding Goff part of his problem is that he is not just carrying the weight of the overall 1st pick, a heavy burden as Alex Smith found out. He is carrying the weight of expectations of two 1st round picks, two second round picks, and two 3rd round picks. Not sure how anyone can satisfy those expectations. Additionally he was playing for Jeff Fisher and the Rams, a truly dreadful combination.