Sean Payton (remains with Saints)

Originally posted by susweel:
Might as well since baalke pisses away 2nd rounders on scrubs like vance, tank, and lmj.

This is what i meant was WELL SAID!!!!

Even if draft picks were sure things, a good coach will have more impact than any single player available in the 2nd this year. A good coach is like a franchise qb - it's more important to have one than to get hung up on getting one for "good value".

If you think Payton's the guy, than go get him. If you don't, than go get the guy you do want.

A 2nd round pick shouldn't be the deciding factor either way.

Originally posted by Overkill:
Even if draft picks were sure things, a good coach will have more impact than any single player available in the 2nd this year. A good coach is like a franchise qb - it's more important to have one than to get hung up on getting one for "good value".

If you think Payton's the guy, than go get him. If you don't, than go get the guy you do want.

A 2nd round pick shouldn't be the deciding factor either way.

Totally agree!

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by SoCold:
49ers would also save around $15m on the cap by releasing or trading Kap and Brooks pre June 1st

We'd save that much whether or not we choose to bring in Brees. We'll have $60 million or so in cap room after making cuts and before resigning or extending our own players. I'm not sure I want to spend a third of that on a soon to be 37 year QB (Jan 15) when we're not likely to even be a playoff team next year. I'm also not sure why Brees would want to end his career here.

Me either! I'm also not sure why we had a DL coach as our HC this year. Anything is possible baby, woooooo!

IF (big if) Payton becomes the Niners HC and IF (big if) Brees is let go because of that contract # than I'd think SF would become Brees #1 option.

Why?

1) Payton
2) Cap $$$ (can sign him AND players).
3) Draft picks (ability to add players).

Now...if you get Payton AND Brees, all of the sudden offensive players see this as a spot they'd want to go to...like say a Calvin Johnson IF he becomes available.

There are ALOT of ifs there and at this point it's all dreaming...but despite the way the media portrays the team, there is a lot to attract coaches to SF.

O-Line Issues? They have $$, draft picks, and are about to get their RT back. Brown looked decent these past two weeks, Tiller is improving, and Kilgore is MUCH better than Martin. Not nearly as far away as some think.

i think our job and the chance to play here is a bit more attractive then what alot of people think. i am not knocking anyone and i am very well aware of how messed up things were this year,. just my opinion

He's worth a second but the saints will let him go for a 5th imo.

Originally posted by jreff22:
4th this year and a 4th next year with a player.

Devey, Pears, Marcus Martin and a 4th rounder. The 49ers do play the Saints next year.

Originally posted by Marvin49:
IF (big if) Payton becomes the Niners HC and IF (big if) Brees is let go because of that contract # than I'd think SF would become Brees #1 option.

Why?

1) Payton
2) Cap $$$ (can sign him AND players).
3) Draft picks (ability to add players).

Now...if you get Payton AND Brees, all of the sudden offensive players see this as a spot they'd want to go to...like say a Calvin Johnson IF he becomes available.

There are ALOT of ifs there and at this point it's all dreaming...but despite the way the media portrays the team, there is a lot to attract coaches to SF.

O-Line Issues? They have $$, draft picks, and are about to get their RT back. Brown looked decent these past two weeks, Tiller is improving, and Kilgore is MUCH better than Martin. Not nearly as far away as some think.

i would also like for us to do something we have not done for ever,. get brees who can still play, draft a nice kid and have him set and learn for two years . we still have blaine who is more than respectable in the back up role

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Marvin49:
IF (big if) Payton becomes the Niners HC and IF (big if) Brees is let go because of that contract # than I'd think SF would become Brees #1 option.

Why?

1) Payton
2) Cap $$$ (can sign him AND players).
3) Draft picks (ability to add players).

Now...if you get Payton AND Brees, all of the sudden offensive players see this as a spot they'd want to go to...like say a Calvin Johnson IF he becomes available.

There are ALOT of ifs there and at this point it's all dreaming...but despite the way the media portrays the team, there is a lot to attract coaches to SF.

O-Line Issues? They have $$, draft picks, and are about to get their RT back. Brown looked decent these past two weeks, Tiller is improving, and Kilgore is MUCH better than Martin. Not nearly as far away as some think.

i would also like for us to do something we have not done for ever,. get brees who can still play, draft a nice kid and have him set and learn for two years . we still have blaine who is more than respectable in the back up role

I think that would be the plan. Goff? Lynch? Dunno...but SOMEBODY would have to be groomed behind Brees.

Getting the Payton-Brees combo is suddenly very intriguing.

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Marvin49:
IF (big if) Payton becomes the Niners HC and IF (big if) Brees is let go because of that contract # than I'd think SF would become Brees #1 option.

Why?

1) Payton
2) Cap $$$ (can sign him AND players).
3) Draft picks (ability to add players).

Now...if you get Payton AND Brees, all of the sudden offensive players see this as a spot they'd want to go to...like say a Calvin Johnson IF he becomes available.

There are ALOT of ifs there and at this point it's all dreaming...but despite the way the media portrays the team, there is a lot to attract coaches to SF.

O-Line Issues? They have $$, draft picks, and are about to get their RT back. Brown looked decent these past two weeks, Tiller is improving, and Kilgore is MUCH better than Martin. Not nearly as far away as some think.

i would also like for us to do something we have not done for ever,. get brees who can still play, draft a nice kid and have him set and learn for two years . we still have blaine who is more than respectable in the back up role

I think that would be the plan. Goff? Lynch? Dunno...but SOMEBODY would have to be groomed behind Brees.

If we get Brees, I think we would go in win now mode and take the best available player that can help now. I would also sign Alshon as a big WR.

I'd give up a 3rd or 4th.

I like Payton, but not sure I like bringing in Brees too... I mean, isn't he really struggling down there? Then having to play against SEA, ARI, and STL? Three team Brees has struggled mightily against...?

But maybe I am just biased because Brees ruined my fantasy team...

No way in hell im giving up a first or second day pick for a coach.