Niners at Hawks more liberal smack talk thread open to opposing fans and others

Just wanted a less one sided preview and game day thread for this game away from the semi-exclusive Niners forum where opposing fans can joke without fear of stepping on toes etc.

I will say this. Lines arent made as what the lines makers think will happen. They are giving the fan a line they think the fan will believe or be influenced to believe.
The Seahawks home field noise advantage is a myth. This year they just lost 2 in a row at home. The Seahawks are banged up. Lynch is about to fall apart and may leave this game injured. The cliche of division rivals knowing each other can apply. The last game wasnt exactly a real blow out at 20-3 and that QB wont be in this game this time. Gabbert is not known by Seattle. Picking Niners to cover is easy.
Picking them to win is what I'm doing in my pickem and its about cold analysis,not any form of fandom.I'm also picking Denver this week

Some of the posts you've made today make no sense. Cold analysis should not tell anyone that the 49ers will win this game. The Seahawks have lost 2 home games in a row, but those home games were against two of the best teams in the league right now (Carolina at 9-0 and Arizona at 7-2) and they were in both those games. How anyone could use that as evidence that their home field advantage is a myth is beyond me.

And I don't think you understand betting lines. They are constantly shifted based on betting volume to try to keep even bets on either side. The aggregated opinions of 1000's of bettors are more valuable than the opinions of the oddsmakers. Lines makers don't have to know anything about football so I don't know why it's worth mentioning that lines makers may not believe their lines will happen.

The last game was 20-3 and could have been worse if Wilson didn't make 2 terrible throws. Having said that, the 49ers did not move the ball at all that game, so he had nothing to lose chucking the ball up a couple times. The 49ers were never in that game.

Everyone betting on this game knows that Gabbert is starting this week and the Seahawks may not be as prepared for him. This is built into the 12.5-13 point line along with a 3-4 point home field advantage (Seattle has one of the larger home field advantages in the NFL). The remainder of the line is based on the Seahawks being a much better football team than the 49ers with better players and coaches. I may end up going with the 49ers against the spread, but it's a tough decision. I think our offense is anemic enough that Seattle won't feel they need to score a lot of points. I think our chance of winning this game is around 10% - it could happen, but it would be foolish to bet on the 49ers winning straight up.

The money line is at +675 for San Francisco implying our chance of winning is 12.9%, so I expect you're putting some serious money on this game if you seriously think we have better than a 50% chance of winning. The money line is -900 for Seattle, implying a 90% chance that they win.

Sad rging is tgat rhe old fancagwv is moee seroius about this rivalry than the players are. .

IBTM

Also, if Gabs somehow wins at the Clink it will really show just how far the Hawks have fallen. Not looking forward to watching this O-line in that stadium.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Some of the posts you've made today make no sense. Cold analysis should not tell anyone that the 49ers will win this game. The Seahawks have lost 2 home games in a row, but those home games were against two of the best teams in the league right now (Carolina at 9-0 and Arizona at 7-2) and they were in both those games. How anyone could use that as evidence that their home field advantage is a myth is beyond me.

And I don't think you understand betting lines. They are constantly shifted based on betting volume to try to keep even bets on either side. The aggregated opinions of 1000's of bettors are more valuable than the opinions of the oddsmakers. Lines makers don't have to know anything about football so I don't know why it's worth mentioning that lines makers may not believe their lines will happen.

The last game was 20-3 and could have been worse if Wilson didn't make 2 terrible throws. Having said that, the 49ers did not move the ball at all that game, so he had nothing to lose chucking the ball up a couple times. The 49ers were never in that game.

Everyone betting on this game knows that Gabbert is starting this week and the Seahawks may not be as prepared for him. This is built into the 12.5-13 point line along with a 3-4 point home field advantage (Seattle has one of the larger home field advantages in the NFL). The remainder of the line is based on the Seahawks being a much better football team than the 49ers with better players and coaches. I may end up going with the 49ers against the spread, but it's a tough decision. I think our offense is anemic enough that Seattle won't feel they need to score a lot of points. I think our chance of winning this game is around 10% - it could happen, but it would be foolish to bet on the 49ers winning straight up.

The money line is at +675 for San Francisco implying our chance of winning is 12.9%, so I expect you're putting some serious money on this game if you seriously think we have better than a 50% chance of winning. The money line is -900 for Seattle, implying a 90% chance that they win.

when you lose a game at home you then have no home field advantage. I have looked at injury reports all season and the team with more injuries to key players and more players is usually the loser. I did state facts as to how betting lines work. They want everyone to bet on Seattle straight up. You are probably young and dont know how to analyze data.

The money line is -900 for Seattle, implying a 90% chance that they win.

implying? I already told you odds/lines are lies to lead you in a direction. LOL at dont think I understand betting lines.

Everyone betting on this game knows that Gabbert is starting this week and the Seahawks may not be as prepared for him. This is built into the 12.5-13 point line along with a 3-4 point home field advantage (Seattle has one of the larger home field advantages in the NFL)

wrong- they lost this so called home field advantage over the last 3 weeks. Its in the past now. If theyve never seen Gabbert then the spread should not even be as high. There is nothing at all that says new QB is worth this much and home field is worth that much. Thats all fiction. There is nothing built in to anything. They just want to see how gullible you are and what youll buy

lOriginally posted by TonyStarks:

Sad rging is tgat rhe old fancagwv is moee seroius about this rivalry than the players are. .

another victim of tapatalk I'm guessing

Originally posted by johnnystrzykalski:

You know you don't measure up when your big dig on another team is how "old" their championships are...like there's an expiration date on then. The Hawks are in their golden age right now and they still have to right the ship this year to match something we've done 3 times in the last 25 years (that is 3 straight confernrence title games). All I can speak for is my lifetime,in this time my team has made 13 conference title games, won 6 conference titles and 5 world titles.

Here's my prediction
Niners take a quick lead with a TD
Kind of shock the home crowd at first, then kick a FG to take a 10-0 lead
Seahawks answer with a late TD to make it 10-7 at half time
Seahawks score early in the 3rd quarter to make it 14-10 then capitalize on a mistake and lead 17-10
Niners find life and answer with a TD 17-17
Then they get the ball back and score
Idk if it's a TD or FG (my brain says FG, but my heart says TD)
But the Seahawks will have a chance to tie or win the game late, can our defense hold?
Will Bowman get his revenge?
Stay tuned!

Originally posted by johnnystrzykalski:

lOriginally posted by TonyStarks:

Sad rging is tgat rhe old fancagwv is moee seroius about this rivalry than the players are. .

another victim of tapatalk I'm guessing

Be nice. He's baking cookies, and it's hard to type in oven mitts.

I want cookies then