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The Legacy of Peyton Manning

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  • dj43
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The news this morning that he is suffering from plantar fasciitis explains a lot of why he has struggled the last two games. When you cannot push off your plant foot you are not going to put passes where they belong. PF is one of the most painful injuries a player/person can have. You cannot shoot up with pain killers because you have to be able to feel with your foot as you move around. Manning has always spent a lot of time on footwork and without being able to move and feel where you are stepping you just cannot play well.

At the expense of sounding all techy and such; in my career, a good part of my time was spent dealing with performance footwear. Part of that time involved training as a pedorthist (building orthotics for specific foot problems). One of the things I learned was that just because a footwear company has done a great job in marketing, selling the color and hype, that does not mean they truly do a good job building a supportive shoe that works well with a specific kind of foot issue. PF is one of the most common problems that arises when the shoe does not support and flex the way it should. Once a problem develops, it can takes weeks, even months in some cases, to get the plantar fascia ligament to heal.

From the reports about his injury, he may not be back until the middle of December if he waits until it completely heals. Coming back early will not help his legacy.
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Originally posted by KP82:
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Anyone else comfortable enough to admit that they enjoy watching the downfall of this annoying petulant child like I am?

I seriously root hard against this guy.....in order of hatred it is:

1) Wilson
2) Peyton Manning
3) Eli Manning
4) Joe Flacco

I get pleasure when these guys fail.

You have 3 Niner foes on there, and the petulant child Peyton Manning, who the league and media cannot hide its infatuation for......

Romo would be close to the top of that list for me. I have nothing against Romo, but I love the screen shots of Jerry in the booth squirming in agony when the 'Boys f**k up.

i swear to god the networks protect jerry.. i can only recall shots of him whooping it up when something goes right for the cowboys. kind of like the way buck and aikman protect rodgers and green bay
  • KP82
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Sports fans always make excuses for former superstar players. We do it all the time. We hold on to stuff that isn't there anymore. Peyton is the current example. Niners fans still have love for Eddie D (a convicted felon and the sole reason the Yorks have ownership). Emmitt Smith in his final years. Jerry Rice. Brett Favre. And the list goes on.

It's okay to say that people who USED TO BE good are simply not professional grade anymore. It's athletics -- it happens. Saying a former great sucks doesn't mean you're disloyal to your team or sport. It just means they suck now and can't help you win games. That's all it means.

I dont know who your post is directed at, but the premise of the thread is that Peyton left a lot on the table in terms of championships when he chose Denver over San Fran. We were a much more ready championship caliber team, and Im sure he wouldve won at least two (definitely one) with us, which would have assured him the spot as best ever. He's going to retire with one ring, and a lot of coulda woulda shouldas when it's all said and done....when he couldve retired in the ranks of greats like Montana, Brady, Bradshaw, Starr. Great QBs during the season and in crunch time (eg playoffs).
The Legacy is that he was not benched 4 years in to his career
Terrible footwork , terrible mechanics, stares down receivers

worst QB in NFL history
Denver Broncos coach Gary Kubiak made it official Monday afternoon, announcing that Brock Osweiler will start at quarterback Sunday against the Chicago Bears and Peyton Manning will begin the process of trying to heal a partially torn plantar fascia in his left foot.


Looking forward to seeing what Brock, a Montana native, can do.
Was he benched because he sucks now or because he's hurt?
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Was he benched because he sucks now or because he's hurt?


Originally posted by JustinMT:
Denver Broncos coach Gary Kubiak made it official Monday afternoon, announcing that Brock Osweiler will start at quarterback Sunday against the Chicago Bears and Peyton Manning will begin the process of trying to heal a partially torn plantar fascia in his left foot.


Looking forward to seeing what Brock, a Montana native, can do.
Originally posted by KP82:
Sometimes the greatest of players can make the dumbest decisions. Harbaugh was handing Peyton the SB trophy on a silver platter back in 2012. A dominant defense, good STs, and a QB away from having a potent offense boasting guys like Vernon Davis, Frank Gore, Michael Crabtree.

We wouldve easily won it all in 2012 (imagine Manning-Brady bowl for the championship), obviously won in 2013, and couldve beat the Hawks in 2014 in the NFCC. Potential for 3-peat and even if Manning wins 2 of those 3, he goes down easily as the GOAT.

Instead, he bites on Elway's offer (maybe he didnt want to compete with baby brother in the NFC) and he will leave the game playing second fiddle to Brady, not to mention join the ranks of great regular season QBs that choked in the playoffs.

Sometimes you have to be greedy as a player, and Peyton made the ultimate legacy killer move by not joining Harbs when he had the chance.

Thoughts ?

whaaaaaasst? saaaaaaay whaaaaaaaast?

where are you getting any of this?

there was never any serious dialog between us and manning likely cause baalke is a frickin cheapskate and wouldnt go market on peyton.

or it coild be a case of dueling egos as harbs is the power running guru and peyton is the dink and dunk guru.
i know. in the midst of a dreary season lets invent the most outlandish speculation that will take our minds off our inconsistent performance and personnel shorycomings.

is that it?
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
whaaaaaasst? saaaaaaay whaaaaaaaast?

where are you getting any of this?

there was never any serious dialog between us and manning likely cause baalke is a frickin cheapskate and wouldnt go market on peyton.

or it coild be a case of dueling egos as harbs is the power running guru and peyton is the dink and dunk guru.
Sarcasm ?
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by KP82:
Sometimes the greatest of players can make the dumbest decisions. Harbaugh was handing Peyton the SB trophy on a silver platter back in 2012. A dominant defense, good STs, and a QB away from having a potent offense boasting guys like Vernon Davis, Frank Gore, Michael Crabtree.

We wouldve easily won it all in 2012 (imagine Manning-Brady bowl for the championship), obviously won in 2013, and couldve beat the Hawks in 2014 in the NFCC. Potential for 3-peat and even if Manning wins 2 of those 3, he goes down easily as the GOAT.

Instead, he bites on Elway's offer (maybe he didnt want to compete with baby brother in the NFC) and he will leave the game playing second fiddle to Brady, not to mention join the ranks of great regular season QBs that choked in the playoffs.

Sometimes you have to be greedy as a player, and Peyton made the ultimate legacy killer move by not joining Harbs when he had the chance.

Thoughts ?

whaaaaaasst? saaaaaaay whaaaaaaaast?

where are you getting any of this?

there was never any serious dialog between us and manning likely cause baalke is a frickin cheapskate and wouldnt go market on peyton.

or it coild be a case of dueling egos as harbs is the power running guru and peyton is the dink and dunk guru.

Or they didnt want to pay manning 19 million per year which would have prevented them signing guys like bowman anthony davis carlos rogers etc. etc., harbaugh insulted his arm strength(many reported this), harbaugh and the medical staff were weary of how long he could last due to the fact is spine was fused together at the neck, harbaugh wouldnt let manning run his own system, or manning simply preferred denver and what they had talent wise to the niners(demaryious, decker, ryan clady at tackle, von miller etc. etc.).

Not defending baalke, think he has made some dumb ass decisions, used to like the guy. But we all know he doesnt over spend because he prefers to pay his own players, and when he does spend on free agents he doesnt go with risky players. Such as a 37 yeard ld qb coming off spinal surgery. Unless the money is right that is.
Originally posted by philosoraptor:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by KP82:
Sometimes the greatest of players can make the dumbest decisions. Harbaugh was handing Peyton the SB trophy on a silver platter back in 2012. A dominant defense, good STs, and a QB away from having a potent offense boasting guys like Vernon Davis, Frank Gore, Michael Crabtree.

We wouldve easily won it all in 2012 (imagine Manning-Brady bowl for the championship), obviously won in 2013, and couldve beat the Hawks in 2014 in the NFCC. Potential for 3-peat and even if Manning wins 2 of those 3, he goes down easily as the GOAT.

Instead, he bites on Elway's offer (maybe he didnt want to compete with baby brother in the NFC) and he will leave the game playing second fiddle to Brady, not to mention join the ranks of great regular season QBs that choked in the playoffs.

Sometimes you have to be greedy as a player, and Peyton made the ultimate legacy killer move by not joining Harbs when he had the chance.

Thoughts ?

whaaaaaasst? saaaaaaay whaaaaaaaast?

where are you getting any of this?

there was never any serious dialog between us and manning likely cause baalke is a frickin cheapskate and wouldnt go market on peyton.

or it coild be a case of dueling egos as harbs is the power running guru and peyton is the dink and dunk guru.

Or they didnt want to pay manning 19 million per year which would have prevented them signing guys like bowman anthony davis carlos rogers etc. etc., harbaugh insulted his arm strength(many reported this), harbaugh and the medical staff were weary of how long he could last due to the fact is spine was fused together at the neck, harbaugh wouldnt let manning run his own system, or manning simply preferred denver and what they had talent wise to the niners(demaryious, decker, ryan clady at tackle, von miller etc. etc.).

Not defending baalke, think he has made some dumb ass decisions, used to like the guy. But we all know he doesnt over spend because he prefers to pay his own players, and when he does spend on free agents he doesnt go with risky players. Such as a 37 yeard ld qb coming off spinal surgery. Unless the money is right that is.
where were you guys at the time ?, there was a Decision day on which team Manning was going to choose the 49ers or the broncos
I wouldn't put him top 5 maybe not even top 10. He could never win a playoff game in NE, he probably still sees Ty Law in his nightmares. His one SB win was against Rex Grossman. He was the greatest QB in the NFL for the first 10 games of the season.
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
I wouldn't put him top 5 maybe not even top 10. He could never win a playoff game in NE, he probably still sees Ty Law in his nightmares. His one SB win was against Rex Grossman. He was the greatest QB in the NFL for the first 10 games of the season.

Steve Young super bowl was vs Stan Humphries. What difference does that make? You can't control who you play in the super bowl.
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