Not sure whether you are aware of this, but Dashon Goldson is currently ranked one of the worst safeties in the league right now. You are probably just thinking about his hits back in the day. Check this out:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/11/11/pro-pffs-midseason-all-worst-team/
The scary thing is he is not just bad in coverage, but he is equally bad in run D.
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Nov 16, 2015 at 3:13 AM
- Rascal
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Nov 16, 2015 at 3:41 AM
- 4everFaithful
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Originally posted by walker807:Originally posted by 4everFaithful:Goldson is ballin this season, having a pro bowl yr
The dude makes a decent pick and all of a sudden he's ballin?
He's been horrible in coverage and run support pretty much all season. Pretty much still sucks for all the same reasons he sucked at TB.
Its not just one pick.. look up the dudes stats. Hes racked up double digit tackles in multiple games this yr.. watch the tape and give credit where its due
Nov 16, 2015 at 4:34 AM
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Originally posted by 4everFaithful:
Originally posted by walker807:
Originally posted by 4everFaithful:
Goldson is ballin this season, having a pro bowl yr
The dude makes a decent pick and all of a sudden he's ballin?
He's been horrible in coverage and run support pretty much all season. Pretty much still sucks for all the same reasons he sucked at TB.
Its not just one pick.. look up the dudes stats. Hes racked up double digit tackles in multiple games this yr.. watch the tape and give credit where its due
If that is the case, tell me why the is PFF ranking Goldson as one of the worst safeties in the NFL right now then?
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/11/11/pro-pffs-midseason-all-worst-team/
Nov 16, 2015 at 4:55 AM
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Originally posted by Rascal:Originally posted by 4everFaithful:Originally posted by walker807:Originally posted by 4everFaithful:Goldson is ballin this season, having a pro bowl yr
The dude makes a decent pick and all of a sudden he's ballin?
He's been horrible in coverage and run support pretty much all season. Pretty much still sucks for all the same reasons he sucked at TB.
Its not just one pick.. look up the dudes stats. Hes racked up double digit tackles in multiple games this yr.. watch the tape and give credit where its due
If that is the case, tell me why the is PFF ranking Goldson as one of the worst safeties in the NFL right now then?
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/11/11/pro-pffs-midseason-all-worst-team/
Currently 13th in tackles. 4th among safeties
Nov 16, 2015 at 5:09 AM
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Originally posted by CityKing415:Currently 13th in tackles. 4th among safeties
Originally posted by CityKing415:Originally posted by Rascal:Originally posted by 4everFaithful:Originally posted by walker807:Originally posted by 4everFaithful:Goldson is ballin this season, having a pro bowl yr
The dude makes a decent pick and all of a sudden he's ballin?
He's been horrible in coverage and run support pretty much all season. Pretty much still sucks for all the same reasons he sucked at TB.
Its not just one pick.. look up the dudes stats. Hes racked up double digit tackles in multiple games this yr.. watch the tape and give credit where its due
If that is the case, tell me why the is PFF ranking Goldson as one of the worst safeties in the NFL right now then?
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/11/11/pro-pffs-midseason-all-worst-team/
Currently 13th in tackles. 4th among safeties
What does that prove? Dude misses plays and whiffs on players for the big hit constantly. You can't play safety like that anymore, got to me smart looking to pass break ups...if Goldston wants to play like that pack on some pounds and become a LBer.
Nov 16, 2015 at 6:25 AM
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provoking flags for huge gain can be s fruitful strategy.Originally posted by CityKing415:People complain about penalties but id take a few of those penalties knowing that the other team thinks twice about going over the middle.
Nov 16, 2015 at 6:32 AM
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Here's how I see it, if the Safety's trait is to lay the hammer and make receivers think twice, then it is expected that there may be some coverage deficiencies. If a FS does not lay the hammer and misses a tackle here or there, then he better damn will be awesome in coverage.
Goldson is real damn good at the thing he's expected to be good at.
Reid is not real damn good at the thing he's expected to be good at.
Goldson is real damn good at the thing he's expected to be good at.
Reid is not real damn good at the thing he's expected to be good at.
Nov 16, 2015 at 6:40 AM
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Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by CityKing415:provoking flags for huge gain can be s fruitful strategy.
People complain about penalties but id take a few of those penalties knowing that the other team thinks twice about going over the middle.
giving teams 15 yards several times a game is a terrible idea in my opinion
Nov 16, 2015 at 6:48 AM
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LOL i shoulda known, Guy gets one lucky bounce for a Pick 6 all of a sudden he should be in the probowl.
We all know Goldson's coverage was never great, but it wasn't terrible. he had a great run with us because of what he had around him.
He wasn't worth what he wanted to get paid, and definitely not worth what he was in Tampa.
Don't get me wrong i was always a Goldson fan, and was bummed to see him go, but he isn't a TOP safety in this league.
At least he's gotten better about he hits other players.
We all know Goldson's coverage was never great, but it wasn't terrible. he had a great run with us because of what he had around him.
He wasn't worth what he wanted to get paid, and definitely not worth what he was in Tampa.
Don't get me wrong i was always a Goldson fan, and was bummed to see him go, but he isn't a TOP safety in this league.
At least he's gotten better about he hits other players.
Nov 16, 2015 at 12:28 PM
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Are we talking pre concussion Reid or post concussion Reid? They are different players.
Nov 16, 2015 at 1:27 PM
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Originally posted by pete98146:
Are we talking pre concussion Reid or post concussion Reid? They are different players.
huh ? Reid's first concussion was in the second regular season game of his career.
Reid is what he is. his instincts arent as good as many people have thought. on college film you could see his problems he's struggling with on the 49ers as well.
it's simply that safety play hasnt been as magnified with a great defense with a potent pass rush and best LB core in the league.
but theres a reason 49ers take him out of FS and often play him as a SS.
with that said, he's still miles better than Goldson. All Goldson could do is hit hard. Even as a SS, you can't be just a hard-hitter in the league anymore. At FS, it's simply unacceptable.
Nov 16, 2015 at 1:30 PM
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Originally posted by cciowa:Originally posted by communist:provoking flags for huge gain can be s fruitful strategy.Originally posted by CityKing415:People complain about penalties but id take a few of those penalties knowing that the other team thinks twice about going over the middle.
giving teams 15 yards several times a game is a terrible idea in my opinion
I get that, on the other hand do you really want guys to lay off and possibly give up a huge play?
Nov 16, 2015 at 4:33 PM
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Why hasn't anyone posted hit Reid layed on Jimmy Graham earlier this year.
Nov 16, 2015 at 4:38 PM
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Reid seems to get burnt a lot and deep. I don't care for either Reid or Goldson. Ward is the future.
Nov 17, 2015 at 2:04 PM
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Goldson is better hit hard than Reid. Reid cant hit hard on guy. Reid had always is consusion and missed tackles that aweful. Reid is suck a defense player!
[ Edited by BuZzB05 on Nov 17, 2015 at 2:11 PM ]