GREG ROMAN - A COORDINATOR FOR HIRE

Originally posted by ads_2006:

according to Kawakami

Harbaugh has been taking a greater role in the offense this year

since its kawakami, not sure if srs

lol dont take anything that guys says seriously, especially about the Niners. Hes so bitter that they used him as a springboard to look good in the Aldon Smith case. Hes been trying to sink the team ever since.

I wouldnt be surprised if all this talk of "turmoil" in house was manufactured by him to stir the pot and set controversy in motion.

Screw Kawakami.

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

I'm shocked to see Jed just sitting this one out on the sidelines. Eddie would have fired Roman at half time, of the first game. Come on Jed is there any DeBartolo blood in those veins?

You realize that we won in spite of Eddie D's hot temper, not because of it, right? Eddie D fired Bill Walsh like 6 times, and Carmen Policy would talk him out of it.

Making franchise altering decisions in week 3 based on the emotions of a loss is a great way to run your team into the ground.

How does a team burn 2 TO's on one drive...a no huddle drive? Burned all 3 before half time?

Originally posted by jreff22:
We have known for a long time Kap is given two plays to pick from. It's the one reason why we can't always blame Roman, Kap might be picking the wrong play.

But roman does get blame for the overall product on the field.

And let me add this....

Harbs doesn't seem to have the concentration to call the plays. With the amount of time he spends arguing with the refs...the play would never get called in time.

Your last point has bothered me since he joined the niners. Didn't notice it as much at Stanford...maybe they didn't show the sideline as often. But according to a story from last year, Harbaugh listens to the play being called and can change it if he disagrees. And, yes we know he gets two plays but JH specifically said it was a run or pass option in that instance. Sometimes the plays may be two runs or two passes.

This year is just another example of how they tend to throw a lot on the players at the beginning of the year and let things smooth out after the first few weeks.

The defense has given up 28, 28 and 23 points...that would be good enough if the offense was performing up to par...especially given the turn overs in the Bears game.

It's ironically funny...so many in this forum have been clamoring, virtually pleading for Roman to employ larger WR sets. Well, he did so yesterday and it worked well...in the 1st half. I don't think he called enough runs, but hey, it's a step in the right direction to take advantage of the deep WR corps Harbaugh has now. Roman can't execute the plays...he just calls 'em. It'll be interesting to see what he'll do when Vernon/VMac return. I like it that SJ's more of an integral part of the passing game and that he involved Ellington more, too. The BL though is Kap and the offense will have to be able to win games in the 4th qtr.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by jreff22:
We have known for a long time Kap is given two plays to pick from. It's the one reason why we can't always blame Roman, Kap might be picking the wrong play.

But roman does get blame for the overall product on the field.

And let me add this....

Harbs doesn't seem to have the concentration to call the plays. With the amount of time he spends arguing with the refs...the play would never get called in time.

Your last point has bothered me since he joined the niners. Didn't notice it as much at Stanford...maybe they didn't show the sideline as often. But according to a story from last year, Harbaugh listens to the play being called and can change it if he disagrees. And, yes we know he gets two plays but JH specifically said it was a run or pass option in that instance. Sometimes the plays may be two runs or two passes.

This year is just another example of how they tend to throw a lot on the players at the beginning of the year and let things smooth out after the first few weeks.

The defense has given up 28, 28 and 23 points...that would be good enough if the offense was performing up to par...especially given the turn overs in the Bears game.

It's clear to me that Harbaugh's act has gotten old to his players. He acts like a child, and now the team has been completely molded after him, players no longer give a f**k on the field, and all that reflects on the coach. We really are the DUMBEST TEAM IN AMERICA! It's embarrasing, and I feel really bad for the veterans like Gore, Willis and Justin Smith.

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
It's ironically funny...so many in this forum have been clamoring, virtually pleading for Roman to employ larger WR sets. Well, he did so yesterday and it worked well...in the 1st half. I don't think he called enough runs, but hey, it's a step in the right direction to take advantage of the deep WR corps Harbaugh has now. Roman can't execute the plays...he just calls 'em. It'll be interesting to see what he'll do when Vernon/VMac return. I like it that SJ's more of an integral part of the passing game and that he involved Ellington more, too. The BL though is Kap and the offense will have to be able to win games in the 4th qtr.

No one questions Roman's ability to create a plan, it's more of this "PLAN A OR BUST" mentality. Dude has ZERO adjustments! How can you explain 3 games in a row where we come with a game plan that gets figured out by halftime?!?

This game is ALL about adjustments. Pete Carroll knows all about that from Bill Walsh and you can tell the Seahawks are up to par with the league. ROMAN AND HARBAUGH are still in the damn collegiate ranks with their play calling it's embarrassing!!!!

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
It's ironically funny...so many in this forum have been clamoring, virtually pleading for Roman to employ larger WR sets. Well, he did so yesterday and it worked well...in the 1st half. I don't think he called enough runs, but hey, it's a step in the right direction to take advantage of the deep WR corps Harbaugh has now. Roman can't execute the plays...he just calls 'em. It'll be interesting to see what he'll do when Vernon/VMac return. I like it that SJ's more of an integral part of the passing game and that he involved Ellington more, too. The BL though is Kap and the offense will have to be able to win games in the 4th qtr.

Agree, and believe it may be just a matter of early season irregularity or lack of fluidity, as in past years. Bothers me that they seem to fall apart in the second half though. Gore was unable to talk after the game, which is odd for him. He usually gives interviews. I think he just had no idea what the team is trying to do and feels his lack of use. They relied more on Hyde at times. Hard place for him to be. Team in flux?

All it takes is to compare Greg Roman with Seattle's Darrell Bevel and you will see how far Roman has been left in the dust, and the saddest part is Roman has WAY more weapons to work with. That is so damn sad.

Again, WHY are we using a franchise QB with a hurt back to be our primary rusher? 13 carries for 4.2 yards a carry not to mention how many hits he took. Gore and Hyde had a total of 9 carries. 9! Are you telling me, with all the weapons we have, CK is STILL our best running back and our only true weapon? You can't have Gore and Hyde take those carries out of the Q-formation WHILE we're spread out with 3-5 receivers? Just dumb...on every single level.

Corva yes HaRo did call more 3 WR sets. And yes we did get up on them. BUT...then we let them back in. Howeever, just because we ran more 3 wide sets doesn't mean that they were used in the proper sequence of playcalling. Yes, Greg knows the different plays. But NO , he has no idea how to integrate them. Also, I believe, that all but a few plays, their D was running a stacked line, usually 8, sometimes 9 or 10 guys on LOS. In effect they are saying, c'mon, kap, beat us with a pass. Well, kap did pretty darn well, but the sequence of playcalling (Ie, mixing in an occasional bomb with short to mid range stuff) was really pure vanilla. We were easy to defend and they did so.

Not scoring in the 2nd half means that THEY make adjustments, and we don't . Coaching error there. Not knowing how to string a series of Offensive plays together successfully...coaching failure. Having one rally killing series of personal fouls called , two games in a row...coaching failure, altho the players committed the fouls. Still coaching failure.

Defense: Fangio called a much better game than the F- he got for the BEars fiasco. He brought blitzes, he did great the first half. Then AZ changed O strategy, and fangio didn't . Coaching failure. F-.

One wonders looking at the above, not has Coach Harbaugh lost his touch, but has he lost his team. We did not look good out there in 2nd half, lots of 3 and outs, no imagination, and when 10 guys magically appear at LOS, kap has to call a pass. Well then , some may say, he should have passed virtually every play. True. If D is loading the box you pass every play until they get out of it, screens(which we do poorly), slants, outs, mid range, occ deep balls. Just keep throwing the rock til they back off the LOS. and they didn't.

So error in coaching philosophy. jH has to know that no points in 2nd half in 3 games is not a good sign. Obviously he has to change philosophy. Sure kap needs to take this team on his back and win it for us in the 4th qtr. Sure HaRo have to call a much, much improved game in 2nd half. But, my admonition back during the draft was, despite how well I like our new DBackfield, I thot it would take 3-4 games before the DBs really got to know one another, to play in unison as a team. Well, I may have underestimated that a bit. Now I will say that 6-8 games, or maybe half a season will need to go by for the DBs to learn to play together. Yes, some of that is coaching, maybe it is inferior talent, but I honestly believe, it just will take another 4-6 games to get our DBs all on the same page. And , remember, they are doing all this "getting acquainted" without BOW, and ALL-stupid-DONE. I sure hope aldon understands what his stupidity , childishness, and idiocy have cost this team...and will continue to cost us. Our DBs lost this game, and I put that on not coaching so much, but just needing for DBs having more time to know who does what, where and when.

Meantime, HaRo have to figure out how to have kap pass every play if necessary against box 8 or more, and how to change tactics for every 2nd half. Good luck guys, you are going to need it.

Finally , if the personal fouls continue, one would have to say that Coach Harbaugh...has lost his team.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Again, WHY are we using a franchise QB with a hurt back to be our primary rusher? 13 carries for 4.2 yards a carry not to mention how many hits he took. Gore and Hyde had a total of 9 carries. 9! Are you telling me, with all the weapons we have, CK is STILL our best running back and our only true weapon? You can't have Gore and Hyde take those carries out of the Q-formation WHILE we're spread out with 3-5 receivers? Just dumb...on every single level.

Im sitting at the sportsbar screaming and yelling ^^^^^....Frank and Carlos are the running backs....stop running with kaep
Gore only had the ball 9 times...wtf is goning on here....HARBAUGH ROMAN....DUMBASSES

Originally posted by NCommand:
Again, WHY are we using a franchise QB with a hurt back to be our primary rusher? 13 carries for 4.2 yards a carry not to mention how many hits he took. Gore and Hyde had a total of 9 carries. 9! Are you telling me, with all the weapons we have, CK is STILL our best running back and our only true weapon? You can't have Gore and Hyde take those carries out of the Q-formation WHILE we're spread out with 3-5 receivers? Just dumb...on every single level.

It seems to me that they are trying to put as many folks wide as possible, which leaves Gore on the bench and CK as an optional runner. Not a bad strategy but CK doesn't have the patience or the OLine to stay in the pocket long enough for things to develop. Watching Denver you can see them generate short passing plays by using picks, screens...all sorts manufactured means to get the passing game going. I really don't see the niners route running to be in the same league. Not sure whether it's a matter of the sets being new and a bit rough around the edges, but I think it is a worthwhile endeavor to leave Kaepernick as a single back. The D has to respect him and with so many wideouts it should eventually pay off.

They are not using Gore much, which may be an attempt to keep him fresh or they are phasing to a different offensive philosophy...toward a spread-like scheme.

I am much more concerned with the penalties and lack of composure the team is showing. Also not happy with Boldin blaming the refs after the game. That indicates he thinks its OK to do so...not his normal demeanor. Is this an indication that the "They're all against us!" mantra has morphed into "Woe is us...nothing we can do!" mentality?

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Again, WHY are we using a franchise QB with a hurt back to be our primary rusher? 13 carries for 4.2 yards a carry not to mention how many hits he took. Gore and Hyde had a total of 9 carries. 9! Are you telling me, with all the weapons we have, CK is STILL our best running back and our only true weapon? You can't have Gore and Hyde take those carries out of the Q-formation WHILE we're spread out with 3-5 receivers? Just dumb...on every single level.

I was saying, no wait, screaming the exact same thing all game long. Kaep for as fast as he can be downhill cannot even get to the edge fast enough and to only gain 5 yards? Risking an injury for plays that make no ssignificance