NFL new domestic violence policy

But let me get this right, you could in theory kill someone (Leonard Little) and still play? But if you smack the baby mamma more than once your career is over? So Goodie when from under-reacting to over-reacting?

Originally posted by BadgerHawk:

But let me get this right, you could in theory kill someone (Leonard Little) and still play? But if you smack the baby mamma more than once your career is over? So Goodie when from under-reacting to over-reacting?

He wasn't the commish back when Little murdered that guy.

Originally posted by JustinMT:

Originally posted by BadgerHawk:
But let me get this right, you could in theory kill someone (Leonard Little) and still play? But if you smack the baby mamma more than once your career is over? So Goodie when from under-reacting to over-reacting?

He wasn't the commish back when Little murdered that guy.

yeah, im pretty sure aaron hernandez wouldn't play in the league again.

Originally posted by NinerGod:
it shouldn't matter if the penalty is too harsh. don't beat up on your domestic partner, period, and you wont have to worry about it.

lets say you're an top 20 nfl player

you've been faithful to your wife, but finds out she's cheating (she's even signed a pre-nup)

When you tell her its over, whats to stop her from saying "if you leave me, I will claim you physically abuse me"

Originally posted by NinerGod:

Originally posted by JustinMT:

Originally posted by BadgerHawk:
But let me get this right, you could in theory kill someone (Leonard Little) and still play? But if you smack the baby mamma more than once your career is over? So Goodie when from under-reacting to over-reacting?

He wasn't the commish back when Little murdered that guy.

yeah, im pretty sure aaron hernandez wouldn't play in the league again.

isn't josh brent bout to be back in the league?

Originally posted by ads_2006:

Originally posted by NinerGod:
it shouldn't matter if the penalty is too harsh. don't beat up on your domestic partner, period, and you wont have to worry about it.

lets say you're an top 20 nfl player

you've been faithful to your wife, but finds out she's cheating (she's even signed a pre-nup)

When you tell her its over, whats to stop her from saying "if you leave me, I will claim you physically abuse me"

Lol great point. The "if you dont do it, you have nothin to worry bout" crowd dont take scenerios like these into account.

Originally posted by VDpwndMjenkins:

Originally posted by ads_2006:

Originally posted by NinerGod:
it shouldn't matter if the penalty is too harsh. don't beat up on your domestic partner, period, and you wont have to worry about it.

lets say you're an top 20 nfl player

you've been faithful to your wife, but finds out she's cheating (she's even signed a pre-nup)

When you tell her its over, whats to stop her from saying "if you leave me, I will claim you physically abuse me"

Lol great point. The "if you dont do it, you have nothin to worry bout" crowd dont take scenerios like these into account.

Correct.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by VDpwndMjenkins:

Originally posted by ads_2006:

Originally posted by NinerGod:
it shouldn't matter if the penalty is too harsh. don't beat up on your domestic partner, period, and you wont have to worry about it.

lets say you're an top 20 nfl player

you've been faithful to your wife, but finds out she's cheating (she's even signed a pre-nup)

When you tell her its over, whats to stop her from saying "if you leave me, I will claim you physically abuse me"

Lol great point. The "if you dont do it, you have nothin to worry bout" crowd dont take scenerios like these into account.

Correct.

Is it? The NFL should let the possibility of unstable b***hes factor in it's domestic violence policy? I personally don't agree with that and am glad that the NFL has taken a strong stance against domestic violence, opposed to letting what if scenarios dictate their actions.

I'll humor you in your "what if" scenario though. As soon as the girl makes that statement the dude could take a pic or a video of the chick right then showing she had no harm done to her then promptly call the police or some other trusted officail and report what she said and then finally remove themselves from the house and stay with somebody that can coroborate their story, removing any doubt of possible abuse allogations. Not to mention I'm sure, given the very serious matter of domestic violence, that there would be a police and NFL investigation into the allegations and it would have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the player did indeed perpetrate the act.

March 18, 2007: In Atlanta, Watley told police Marshall punched her and took her purse while in a hotel. Marshall was gone before police arrived. No charges were filed.

March 21, 2007: According to the Denver Post, police in Palm Beach County, Fla., interviewed Marshall and Watley twice in the same night after two loud arguments. Both said the disturbances were not physical in nature. No arrests or charges were made.

March 26, 2007: Marshall was arrested in a Denver suburb on suspicion of domestic violence. Watley reported Marshall prevented a taxi she was in from leaving his house. Marshall completed anger management counseling and the charges were dropped two months later.

June 8, 2007: According to the Denver Post, two incident reports were filed by Atlanta police. A friend of Watley's claimed Marshall hit her car and then threw a rock at the passenger door as Watley was riding in the passenger seat. Watley also told police Marshall cut her in the thigh and punched her in the face. She was taken by ambulance to a local hospital. Marshall was not present when police arrived. No charges were filed.

June 30, 2007: According to the Denver Post, Watley told Atlanta police Marshall punched and choked her at his condo. She had a bruise and scratches. Marshall was not present when police arrived. No charges were filed.

Oct. 22, 2007: Marshall was arrested in Denver and charged with driving under the influence of alcohol. He was pulled over driving the wrong way on a one-way street hours after a game. He later pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of driving while ability-impaired and was sentenced to one year of probation and 24 hours of community service.

March 6, 2008: Marshall was arrested on charges of misdemeanor battery in Atlanta after a dispute with Watley. She told police he punched her in the mouth and eye. Marshall said he cut his hand on glass.

Aug. 6, 2008: NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell suspended Marshall for three games for violating the league's personal conduct policy. The suspension was reduced to one regular-season game and a fine of an additional game check, costing him $52,353.

So even though no charges were filed for domestic violence and he wasn't arrested/jailed, Goodell was still able to suspended him for one game.

Under this new policy. Would Brandon Marshall still even be in the league, cause the suspension seems to be determined by goodell. This whole suspension system just seems arbitrary

Originally posted by ads_2006:

March 18, 2007: In Atlanta, Watley told police Marshall punched her and took her purse while in a hotel. Marshall was gone before police arrived. No charges were filed.

March 21, 2007: According to the Denver Post, police in Palm Beach County, Fla., interviewed Marshall and Watley twice in the same night after two loud arguments. Both said the disturbances were not physical in nature. No arrests or charges were made.

March 26, 2007: Marshall was arrested in a Denver suburb on suspicion of domestic violence. Watley reported Marshall prevented a taxi she was in from leaving his house. Marshall completed anger management counseling and the charges were dropped two months later.

June 8, 2007: According to the Denver Post, two incident reports were filed by Atlanta police. A friend of Watley's claimed Marshall hit her car and then threw a rock at the passenger door as Watley was riding in the passenger seat. Watley also told police Marshall cut her in the thigh and punched her in the face. She was taken by ambulance to a local hospital. Marshall was not present when police arrived. No charges were filed.

June 30, 2007: According to the Denver Post, Watley told Atlanta police Marshall punched and choked her at his condo. She had a bruise and scratches. Marshall was not present when police arrived. No charges were filed.

Oct. 22, 2007: Marshall was arrested in Denver and charged with driving under the influence of alcohol. He was pulled over driving the wrong way on a one-way street hours after a game. He later pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of driving while ability-impaired and was sentenced to one year of probation and 24 hours of community service.

March 6, 2008: Marshall was arrested on charges of misdemeanor battery in Atlanta after a dispute with Watley. She told police he punched her in the mouth and eye. Marshall said he cut his hand on glass.

Aug. 6, 2008: NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell suspended Marshall for three games for violating the league's personal conduct policy. The suspension was reduced to one regular-season game and a fine of an additional game check, costing him $52,353.

So even though no charges were filed for domestic violence and he wasn't arrested/jailed, Goodell was still able to suspended him for one game.

Under this new policy. Would Brandon Marshall still even be in the league, cause the suspension seems to be determined by goodell. This whole suspension system just seems arbitrary

Wow, that is a long list. Marshall is lucky that all went down when Goodell first got the job, before he overhauled the personal conduct policy. He very well might have been out of the league lol.

Goodell, you sneaky b*****d you.

Admit to screwing up Ray Rice ruling, get praised for changing domestic violence policy, now can justify suspending Aldon more than 2 games.

Well played.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Ray Rice is finished.

The 2nd is too high IMO. Maybe 1 season. Lifetime is too much. Some of these gold digger girls will make this stuff up to pressure a settlement. This gives a lot of power to people who don't necessarily have good intentions. For real domestic abuse yeah it's terrible and should not be accepted. This just opens the door to gold diggers IMO. Unintended consequences.

All I know is that as a player, you better be very careful of the company you keep. It was true before, but it's even more true now.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Ray Rice is finished.

The 2nd is too high IMO. Maybe 1 season. Lifetime is too much. Some of these gold digger girls will make this stuff up to pressure a settlement. This gives a lot of power to people who don't necessarily have good intentions. For real domestic abuse yeah it's terrible and should not be accepted. This just opens the door to gold diggers IMO. Unintended consequences.

All I know is that as a player, you better be very careful of the company you keep. It was true before, but it's even more true now.

Yeah but the history of the league is that these are young guys with too much money and time on their hands. Plus not all of them are from the best backgrounds. So they make absolutely terrible decisions until it bites them a few times. Aldon Smith is case and point.

If these wives and girlfriends want to blackmail a player they could use just about anything. that's really a poor argument.imo

I just read that if you do get banished for a domestic you can reapply to come back after a year. I guess its not so permanent after all.