Aaron Lynch Thread

You guys have it backwards. Lynch was at his best and most explosive when he was a freshman walking around at 275. When he went off the deep end and had issues with adderol he lost weight, strength, and explosion.

Originally posted by natrone06:
You guys have it backwards. Lynch was at his best and most explosive when he was a freshman walking around at 275. When he went off the deep end and had issues with adderol he lost weight, strength, and explosion.

My feeling regarding this guy is: 5% chance he works out, but if he does, losing Aldon Smith may not sting as much. Basically, a more Cap friendly OLB for the day Smith becomes too expensive or too unreliable.

Originally posted by Quest4six:

Originally posted by NCommand:
^^^ My understanding is that as his weight went up, he was less effective (noted in this thread) and that his natural weight is around 255-260 which is ideal for an OLB in our 3-4 (and why we drafted him). Also, we have 100 DL in front of him. His best shot is as OLB, no doubt, IMHO. There has been zero reports of him playing DE for us.

Solid post,
I remember the thread about Aaron Donald in the draft war room. There was an argument about how the niners should draft him and bulk him up to make him a NT because of the speed/power combo he has. The OP had assumed that adding 10-15lbs would keep Donald just as explosive. Not the case.

Same can be said for Lynch,
It doesn't make much sense to take somebody who plays quickly at 255-260 and bulk them up to trade in that agility for unnecesasary power (especially now that he is playing OLB)


Good post NC

He rolled in at the combine at 249lbs at 6-5 with long arms he needs to play at 265 if he is gonna play OLB. He played at 280 his freshman year and had plenty of explosion. All I'm saying is look at the film from his freshman year at 280 he had a ton of burst matched with power. Then watch the USF tape at 250 lbs, not the same player. Why not have him play a position that gave him all-pro honors? I understand that we are stacked at DE, but clearly this position is where he was dominant at.

Originally posted by Quest4six:

Originally posted by NCommand:
^^^ My understanding is that as his weight went up, he was less effective (noted in this thread) and that his natural weight is around 255-260 which is ideal for an OLB in our 3-4 (and why we drafted him). Also, we have 100 DL in front of him. His best shot is as OLB, no doubt, IMHO. There has been zero reports of him playing DE for us.

Solid post,
I remember the thread about Aaron Donald in the draft war room. There was an argument about how the niners should draft him and bulk him up to make him a NT because of the speed/power combo he has. The OP had assumed that adding 10-15lbs would keep Donald just as explosive. Not the case.

Same can be said for Lynch,
It doesn't make much sense to take somebody who plays quickly at 255-260 and bulk them up to trade in that agility for unnecesasary power (especially now that he is playing OLB)


Good post NC

Originally posted by NYniner85:
He rolled in at the combine at 249lbs at 6-5 with long arms he needs to play at 265 if he is gonna play OLB.

Agreed, that would be most ideal right there...basically Brooks/Aldon weight. Strong enough to bull rush, play off blocks, seal the edge but still quick enough to edge/speed rush as well.

Originally posted by natrone06:

You guys have it backwards. Lynch was at his best and most explosive when he was a freshman walking around at 275. When he went off the deep end and had issues with adderol he lost weight, strength, and explosion.

His freshman year at Notre Dame was three years ago. Since then, he missed one year and had a mediocre year, at least compared to his freshman year, at South Florida.

Perhaps, the drop off in play came from playing as 4-3 defensive end instead of a 3-4 defensive end, but I am not sure how we could determine that.

In addition, his attitude seems to have been a significant problem at both Notre Dame and South Florida.

He spent the year that he missed on the South Florida scout team, so even though he did not play he was working out and learning the defense.

He opted to only do the bench at the combine. Except for his straight line speed, he pre-draft work out at his pro day was not impressive.

If he is willing and able to stand out on special teams, he has a good chance to make the 53-man roster. I just do not see him beating out Lemonier or Skuta, both of whom played well on defense and special teams last year.

For the good of the team and for his own good, I truly hope that he excels.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFL-Prospect-Focus-Aaron-Lynch.html

Originally posted by buck:
His freshman year at Notre Dame was three years ago. Since then, he missed one year and had a mediocre year, at least compared to his freshman year, at South Florida.

Perhaps, the drop off in play came from playing as 4-3 defensive end instead of a 3-4 defensive end, but I am not sure how we could determine that.

In addition, his attitude seems to have been a significant problem at both Notre Dame and South Florida.

He spent the year that he missed on the South Florida scout team, so even though he did not play he was working out and learning the defense.

He opted to only do the bench at the combine. Except for his straight line speed, he pre-draft work out at his pro day was not impressive.

If he is willing and able to stand out on special teams, he has a good chance to make the 53-man roster. I just do not see him beating out Lemonier or Skuta, both of whom played well on defense and special teams last year.

For the good of the team and for his own good, I truly hope that he excels.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFL-Prospect-Focus-Aaron-Lynch.html

I believe he had issues with his hamstrings at the Combine and his pro day as well. It seems his problems are really from the neck up, I wonder if being around football full time will motivate him. Hopefully some of the vets can get him strait, I mean look at the strides that Ahmad Brooks has made since college and all his issues.

He needs to add 25 pounds. That won't happen any time soon. He is likely to spend the year on the practice squad. They won't cut him because they drafted him knowing he'd need at least a year to get to his ideal playing weight. Unless his attitude problems are legitimate, in which case I could see him being cut.

Originally posted by midrdan:
He needs to add 25 pounds. That won't happen any time soon. He is likely to spend the year on the practice squad. They won't cut him because they drafted him knowing he'd need at least a year to get to his ideal playing weight. Unless his attitude problems are legitimate, in which case I could see him being cut.

25 pounds?? I mean if he plays DE sure, but like everyone has been saying he most likely plays OLB and would only need to gain 15 lbs to be around the same size/weight as Smith.

Originally posted by midrdan:

He needs to add 25 pounds. That won't happen any time soon. He is likely to spend the year on the practice squad. They won't cut him because they drafted him knowing he'd need at least a year to get to his ideal playing weight. Unless his attitude problems are legitimate, in which case I could see him being cut.

You may be convinced that the team drafted him knowing that he'd need a year to get to his ideal playing weight. He only needs to add 25 pounds, if he is going to play at defense end.

Up to this point, there has been no indication on the part of Baalke, Harbaugh, or Fangio that Lynch will play defense end. He is listed as a LB on the roster.

Lynch can not go from the 90-man roster to the practice squad without being cut. Unless the rules for the practice squad have changed, a player on the roster has to be cut (waived) and clear waivers before he can be put on the practice squad. Any team in the league could claim him, if he is cut.



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It'll be very telling what he weighs come training camp. With his body type and all the resources he has now ( money, nutritionist and one of the best strength and conditioning staffs around imo), 265lbs shouldn't be a problem imo. If he can do that, he'll show some dedication and I'll be optimistic. That said, I don't believe he'll be able to beat out Skuta or Lemonier on base downs, but has a chance to be a designated pass rusher, much like we used Aldon his first year. Although not to that extent.

Year 2, course of action could depend on Aldons situation. If Smith can stay outta trouble and looks like we are going to sign him long term, I'd want Lynch playing at 275-280 so he can come in on passing downs and play both inside and outside on a 4 man line. Some of Aldons and Lynch's best tape in college came when they were playing inside and wrecking havoc. I'm hoping we will see Aldon rush more from there this year and maybe lynch in a year or two. If Aldon can't clean up his act I'd keep him at OLB, and would want him playing around 265-270.

Year 3 if all goes well with Aldon, I could see Lynch put on a little more weight and help replace McDonald or Smith at 34DE on base downs.

Originally posted by buck:

His freshman year at Notre Dame was three years ago. Since then, he missed one year and had a mediocre year, at least compared to his freshman year, at South Florida.

Perhaps, the drop off in play came from playing as 4-3 defensive end instead of a 3-4 defensive end, but I am not sure how we could determine that.

In addition, his attitude seems to have been a significant problem at both Notre Dame and South Florida.

He spent the year that he missed on the South Florida scout team, so even though he did not play he was working out and learning the defense.

He opted to only do the bench at the combine. Except for his straight line speed, he pre-draft work out at his pro day was not impressive.

If he is willing and able to stand out on special teams, he has a good chance to make the 53-man roster. I just do not see him beating out Lemonier or Skuta, both of whom played well on defense and special teams last year.

For the good of the team and for his own good, I truly hope that he excels.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFL-Prospect-Focus-Aaron-Lynch.html

What you kind of describe to me is another Cam Johnson. He dominated the fourth quarter pre season players last year, but was pretty ordinary against the 2nd stringers.

That strength and conditioning coach at his college may have had a big part to do with his mental attitude. I've never seen a coach criticize one of his pupils making it into the NFL. I would think that guy would be at least outwardly proud of his student. I'd love it if Charles haley would coach this guy one on one. Lynch will either get stronger under Haley or die trying!

Originally posted by Giedi:

What you kind of describe to me is another Cam Johnson.

I have no idea what Lynch is going to do or not going to do.

I am cautiously optimistic, but apparently I am less impressed than many others.

I have a hard time thinking that he is going to gain the weight necessary to play 3-4 defensive end. I guess it is possible, and some seem to feel that 3-4 DE is his natural position.

I have seen absolutely nothing indicating that the 49er brain trust drafted him to play 3-4 defensive end.

I hope he does well and eventually we will find out if he plays linebacker or 3-4 defensive end.

Lynch is comparitively young for a rookie in the league. He will likely add some mass naturally over the next few years. I believe that the 9ers want to see him at his current weight or close to it first off, to see how he performs. He was 252 at his pro day, somewhere north of that, 255-260, and playing OLB. Particularly with the uncertainty surrounding Aldon Smith, and the fact that Ahmad Brooks is 30 with an injury history. If he doesn't work out there, maybe they get him to bulk up and try his luck on the front line. That would seem to be the most logical course.

Originally posted by xcfan:

Originally posted by ethan:
He's 6-5+, with 34" arms and 10" hands. With a 1.52 10 yard dash. Just turned 21 recently. Unless he is a total head case, he should be at least a role player on defense.

true fast-twitch guys over 250 lbs are rare. we gotta try hard to develop this guy, because the tools for great play are there; they just have to be carefully nurtured.
if all goes well, it could be REALLY well.

At this point it is all up to Aaron. If he wants it bad enough, he has the opportunity to really be somebody in this league.