Jon Baldwin Has Played His Last Game For The 9ers ?!

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pd24:
That is good for Baldwin, and some other players in danger of being cut, but I hate it for the incoming rookie class. That is 1 less month for them to learn the system and playbook. With the way our coaching staff waits to play rookies, I don't like pushing the draft back.

Let's be honest here, a rookie WR, even a 1st rounder, probably won't play more than a few decoy and primary target snaps this year.

True, only for us though. Other teams play rookie WR's all the time and get production. The Seahawks were playing some undrafted guys in the Superbowl... lol

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pd24:
That is good for Baldwin, and some other players in danger of being cut, but I hate it for the incoming rookie class. That is 1 less month for them to learn the system and playbook. With the way our coaching staff waits to play rookies, I don't like pushing the draft back.

Let's be honest here, a rookie WR, even a 1st rounder, probably won't play more than a few decoy and primary target snaps this year.

True, only for us though. Other teams play rookie WR's all the time and get production. The Seahawks were playing some undrafted guys in the Superbowl... lol

while seattle certainly is more apt to play the young guys, their undrafted wr's in years super bowl were doug bladwin (3rd yr in league) ricardo lockette (3rd yr in league) and jermiane kearse (2nd yr in league). none of them were rookies.

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pd24:
That is good for Baldwin, and some other players in danger of being cut, but I hate it for the incoming rookie class. That is 1 less month for them to learn the system and playbook. With the way our coaching staff waits to play rookies, I don't like pushing the draft back.

Let's be honest here, a rookie WR, even a 1st rounder, probably won't play more than a few decoy and primary target snaps this year.

True, only for us though. Other teams play rookie WR's all the time and get production. The Seahawks were playing some undrafted guys in the Superbowl... lol

while seattle certainly is more apt to play the young guys, their undrafted wr's in years super bowl were doug bladwin (3rd yr in league) ricardo lockette (3rd yr in league) and jermiane kearse (2nd yr in league). none of them were rookies.

Baldwin is good, I was talking about Lockette, and Kerse. They would not have played here last year rookie or not. We don't play 3 WR much, we need to.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's be honest here, a rookie WR, even a 1st rounder, probably won't play more than a few decoy and primary target snaps this year.

Originally posted by communist:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's be honest here, a rookie WR, even a 1st rounder, probably won't play more than a few decoy and primary target snaps this year.

At least, not at the beginning. You dont want to present your new weapon to the opponents early.

Originally posted by communist:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Let's be honest here, a rookie WR, even a 1st rounder, probably won't play more than a few decoy and primary target snaps this year.

At least, not at the beginning. You dont want to present your new weapon to the opponents early.

Originally posted by NCommand:
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/49ers-Jonathan-Baldwin-New-Deal-May-Give-Him-Second-Chance-246897301.html

To reach those incentives, however, Baldwin would have to produce like the big-time playmaker he was supposed to be. According to Yates, he'd have to play 80 percent of offensive snaps and catch 65 or more passes for at least 800 yards. Bill Williamson, who covers the 49ers for ESPN.com, also reported that the money in Baldwin's contract isn't guaranteed, so if the Niners decide to cut him before the season, they'd escape any costs.

But the Star story quoted draft analyst Jared Counterman of OptimumScouting.com as saying that Baldwin wasn't believed to be "a super-hard worker" and a sloppy route runner – a trait that apparently surfaced with the 49ers, too. There are no such concerns about (Kelvin) Benjamin.

At 24, Baldwin still has time. But he'll need to have a great offseason to earn a job.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/49ers-Jonathan-Baldwin-New-Deal-May-Give-Him-Second-Chance-246897301.html

To reach those incentives, however, Baldwin would have to produce like the big-time playmaker he was supposed to be. According to Yates, he'd have to play 80 percent of offensive snaps and catch 65 or more passes for at least 800 yards. Bill Williamson, who covers the 49ers for ESPN.com, also reported that the money in Baldwin's contract isn't guaranteed, so if the Niners decide to cut him before the season, they'd escape any costs.

But the Star story quoted draft analyst Jared Counterman of OptimumScouting.com as saying that Baldwin wasn't believed to be "a super-hard worker" and a sloppy route runner – a trait that apparently surfaced with the 49ers, too. There are no such concerns about (Kelvin) Benjamin.

At 24, Baldwin still has time. But he'll need to have a great offseason to earn a job.

I guess the bolded partly explains why Andy Reid was quick to get rid of this guy. What better way for the new coach to show the other players that slackers don't get a free ride. The sloppy route runner thing is no surprise to me.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/49ers-Jonathan-Baldwin-New-Deal-May-Give-Him-Second-Chance-246897301.html

To reach those incentives, however, Baldwin would have to produce like the big-time playmaker he was supposed to be. According to Yates, he'd have to play 80 percent of offensive snaps and catch 65 or more passes for at least 800 yards. Bill Williamson, who covers the 49ers for ESPN.com, also reported that the money in Baldwin's contract isn't guaranteed, so if the Niners decide to cut him before the season, they'd escape any costs.

But the Star story quoted draft analyst Jared Counterman of OptimumScouting.com as saying that Baldwin wasn't believed to be "a super-hard worker" and a sloppy route runner – a trait that apparently surfaced with the 49ers, too. There are no such concerns about (Kelvin) Benjamin.

At 24, Baldwin still has time. But he'll need to have a great offseason to earn a job.

I guess the bolded partly explains why Andy Reid was quick to get rid of this guy. What better way for the new coach to show the other players that slackers don't get a free ride. The sloppy route runner thing is no surprise to me.

Yeah, I don't know who Jared Counterman is but that was his scouting assessment and perhaps, it continues to be true to this day. He'll really have to earn it now...this, clearly, is his last shot! The ego should be in-check by now.

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/49ers-Jonathan-Baldwin-New-Deal-May-Give-Him-Second-Chance-246897301.html

To reach those incentives, however, Baldwin would have to produce like the big-time playmaker he was supposed to be. According to Yates, he'd have to play 80 percent of offensive snaps and catch 65 or more passes for at least 800 yards. Bill Williamson, who covers the 49ers for ESPN.com, also reported that the money in Baldwin's contract isn't guaranteed, so if the Niners decide to cut him before the season, they'd escape any costs.

But the Star story quoted draft analyst Jared Counterman of OptimumScouting.com as saying that Baldwin wasn't believed to be "a super-hard worker" and a sloppy route runner – a trait that apparently surfaced with the 49ers, too. There are no such concerns about (Kelvin) Benjamin.

At 24, Baldwin still has time. But he'll need to have a great offseason to earn a job.

I guess the bolded partly explains why Andy Reid was quick to get rid of this guy. What better way for the new coach to show the other players that slackers don't get a free ride. The sloppy route runner thing is no surprise to me.

Yeah, I don't know who Jared Counterman is but that was his scouting assessment and perhaps, it continues to be true to this day. He'll really have to earn it now...this, clearly, is his last shot! The ego should be in-check by now.

He seemed cool on the sidelines when he didn't dress. He was always cheering for guys as they came off the field and looked like he was always talking to the WR's asking questions, just from the few sideline clips I saw during games.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/49ers-Jonathan-Baldwin-New-Deal-May-Give-Him-Second-Chance-246897301.html

To reach those incentives, however, Baldwin would have to produce like the big-time playmaker he was supposed to be. According to Yates, he'd have to play 80 percent of offensive snaps and catch 65 or more passes for at least 800 yards. Bill Williamson, who covers the 49ers for ESPN.com, also reported that the money in Baldwin's contract isn't guaranteed, so if the Niners decide to cut him before the season, they'd escape any costs.

But the Star story quoted draft analyst Jared Counterman of OptimumScouting.com as saying that Baldwin wasn't believed to be "a super-hard worker" and a sloppy route runner – a trait that apparently surfaced with the 49ers, too. There are no such concerns about (Kelvin) Benjamin.

At 24, Baldwin still has time. But he'll need to have a great offseason to earn a job.

I guess the bolded partly explains why Andy Reid was quick to get rid of this guy. What better way for the new coach to show the other players that slackers don't get a free ride. The sloppy route runner thing is no surprise to me.

Yeah, I don't know who Jared Counterman is but that was his scouting assessment and perhaps, it continues to be true to this day. He'll really have to earn it now...this, clearly, is his last shot! The ego should be in-check by now.

He seemed cool on the sidelines when he didn't dress. He was always cheering for guys as they came off the field and looked like he was always talking to the WR's asking questions, just from the few sideline clips I saw during games.

That doesn't tell me anything about how hard a worker he is. Not sure if that was what you were trying to get at.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/49ers-Jonathan-Baldwin-New-Deal-May-Give-Him-Second-Chance-246897301.html

To reach those incentives, however, Baldwin would have to produce like the big-time playmaker he was supposed to be. According to Yates, he'd have to play 80 percent of offensive snaps and catch 65 or more passes for at least 800 yards. Bill Williamson, who covers the 49ers for ESPN.com, also reported that the money in Baldwin's contract isn't guaranteed, so if the Niners decide to cut him before the season, they'd escape any costs.

But the Star story quoted draft analyst Jared Counterman of OptimumScouting.com as saying that Baldwin wasn't believed to be "a super-hard worker" and a sloppy route runner – a trait that apparently surfaced with the 49ers, too. There are no such concerns about (Kelvin) Benjamin.

At 24, Baldwin still has time. But he'll need to have a great offseason to earn a job.

I guess the bolded partly explains why Andy Reid was quick to get rid of this guy. What better way for the new coach to show the other players that slackers don't get a free ride. The sloppy route runner thing is no surprise to me.

Yeah, I don't know who Jared Counterman is but that was his scouting assessment and perhaps, it continues to be true to this day. He'll really have to earn it now...this, clearly, is his last shot! The ego should be in-check by now.

He seemed cool on the sidelines when he didn't dress. He was always cheering for guys as they came off the field and looked like he was always talking to the WR's asking questions, just from the few sideline clips I saw during games.

That doesn't tell me anything about how hard a worker he is. Not sure if that was what you were trying to get at.

Originally posted by pd24:
It showed he had a good mind set from dressing one week to not the next week. He didn't cry or tweet about.

Originally posted by pd24:
Kind of excited to see what he does in the camps and pre season. I want to see him on the field for an extended period of time. It's his last shot with us, I hope he can put it together this offseason and be a player for us.