Michael Crabtree Thread

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Crab is actually a special commodity
He specializes in route running
and there are only about 5 corners in the NFL who can cover a good route. Maybe 5

So explain his lack of production with Kap as the QB?

Easy 2012 we ran wco type passing concepts with Crab

last season he was gone but came back same type of routes

this year he was delegated to fades and verticals or curls for the most part.

Check the tape, every time he ran a precision route it was basically no contest and completed.

his 2 longest td's were on a dino route
and a 10 yard slant route.

I hope you are going to qualify it better than that. I didn't watch game film this year like I have in the past, but I did see him run a number of slants, curls, posts and corner routes the same as previous years. In fact, if you pull up a highlights film, that's what you'll see. Of course, those were his opportunities. I'd be shocked in the coaching film didn't show that he wasn't getting open...or that now that the team had Boldin, Kap took less chances to feed Crabtree like he did previously. Crabtree is a solid WR...but that's it. Solid. He might go to the pro-bowl once or twice in his career.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Jakemall:
So explain his lack of production with Kap as the QB?

He was extremely productive in 12 with Kap. I just think Boldin took his place in the offense.

He was. You could argue that when he came back in 13 he wasn't 100%. But he made the claim that only 5 guys could cover him. Quite frankly, if he was that good, either Kap isn't throwing his way because he's blind...or maybe Crabtree really wasn't getting as open as he originally claimed.

He was confused. He meant only 5 guys can't cover him, and they all play offense.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Crab is actually a special commodity
He specializes in route running
and there are only about 5 corners in the NFL who can cover a good route. Maybe 5

So explain his lack of production with Kap as the QB?

Easy 2012 we ran wco type passing concepts with Crab

last season he was gone but came back same type of routes

this year he was delegated to fades and verticals or curls for the most part.

Check the tape, every time he ran a precision route it was basically no contest and completed.

his 2 longest td's were on a dino route
and a 10 yard slant route.

I hope you are going to qualify it better than that. I didn't watch game film this year like I have in the past, but I did see him run a number of slants, curls, posts and corner routes the same as previous years. In fact, if you pull up a highlights film, that's what you'll see. Of course, those were his opportunities. I'd be shocked in the coaching film didn't show that he wasn't getting open...or that now that the team had Boldin, Kap took less chances to feed Crabtree like he did previously. Crabtree is a solid WR...but that's it. Solid. He might go to the pro-bowl once or twice in his career.

lol i have to qualify it better than the tape? that's what the film showed.
verticals fades and curls all wasted on him basically.
part of it is in fact that kap spreads the ball around to whoever is open. but there were too many times they just didn't try and get him involved.

We rarely got our money's worth from him, granted he good, occasionally great...but not worth it Imo.

1yr deal think he would thrive in the WCO

What could have been

He wants money, always has, always will

Enjoy those 2 Belitnekoffs

We got a little more production out of him, than the raiders did out of DHB

But, I will always hate him fore those few inches in the super bowl and NFC Championship. Maybe not his fault, probably not his fault. But somehow I see Jerry coming up with those catches.

He'll get hurt in warm ups at Levis (bad turf)... send him to Raiders

Originally posted by wysiwyg:
What could have been

He wants money, always has, always will

Enjoy those 2 Belitnekoffs

We got a little more production out of him, than the raiders did out of DHB

But, I will always hate him fore those few inches in the super bowl and NFC Championship. Maybe not his fault, probably not his fault. But somehow I see Jerry coming up with those catches.

Looking back on that draft, I was a bit concerned when he was picked. He was picked the same year Mathews, Cushing, and Maualuga were taken from SC. Back then, the BIG-12 was not known for stellar DB's and Crabtree was a fixture on a pass happy offense. He made some awesome catches... but against guys that never turned around to look for the ball. Hell, many of those guys had a hard time with a semi effective face guard...

DHB... I don't know how that guy ever seemed like a good idea.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Crab is actually a special commodity
He specializes in route running
and there are only about 5 corners in the NFL who can cover a good route. Maybe 5

So explain his lack of production with Kap as the QB?

Easy 2012 we ran wco type passing concepts with Crab

last season he was gone but came back same type of routes

this year he was delegated to fades and verticals or curls for the most part.

Check the tape, every time he ran a precision route it was basically no contest and completed.

his 2 longest td's were on a dino route
and a 10 yard slant route.

I hope you are going to qualify it better than that. I didn't watch game film this year like I have in the past, but I did see him run a number of slants, curls, posts and corner routes the same as previous years. In fact, if you pull up a highlights film, that's what you'll see. Of course, those were his opportunities. I'd be shocked in the coaching film didn't show that he wasn't getting open...or that now that the team had Boldin, Kap took less chances to feed Crabtree like he did previously. Crabtree is a solid WR...but that's it. Solid. He might go to the pro-bowl once or twice in his career.

lol i have to qualify it better than the tape? that's what the film showed.
verticals fades and curls all wasted on him basically.
part of it is in fact that kap spreads the ball around to whoever is open. but there were too many times they just didn't try and get him involved.

This makes a lot of sense if you are correct. The offensive game plan was just mind boggling this year considering the strengths/weaknesses of our personnel.

Originally posted by JohnMatrix:
This makes a lot of sense if you are correct. The offensive game plan was just mind boggling this year considering the strengths/weaknesses of our personnel.

Actually just commenting because I loved Commando (John Matrix) as a kid. Watched it a couple of years ago, it did not stand the test of time.

...derail over.

Originally posted by JohnMatrix:
This makes a lot of sense if you are correct. The offensive game plan was just mind boggling this year considering the strengths/weaknesses of our personnel.

verticals fades curls is not all we ran but we ran those far too many times with people not equipped to run them.
trying to get chunk yards with wr's that don't get any separation.
if we had done with ellington what arizona did with john brown then it would make sense. put ellington in the slot and let him run past the defender with his 4.3. speed and take a deep shot that opens up everything for everyone else
but alas.

Crab's career with the 49ers (IMO) is a basic result of a typical player whose heart was never in it.

DGB has entered the NFL draft

Originally posted by Harbaalke:
DGB has entered the NFL draft

we HAVE to get him. wow

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by Harbaalke:
DGB has entered the NFL draft

we HAVE to get him. wow

Bye bye crabtree a new #15 coming