Michael Crabtree Thread

Originally posted by daragon:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
would Crabs fit with Alex in KC?

Hahaha. Funniest post of the day.

he would get at least 10 catches for the year.

Crab is actually a special commodity
He specializes in route running
and there are only about 5 corners in the NFL who can cover a good route. Maybe 5

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Crab is actually a special commodity
He specializes in route running
and there are only about 5 corners in the NFL who can cover a good route. Maybe 5

So explain his lack of production with Kap as the QB?

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Crab is actually a special commodity
He specializes in route running
and there are only about 5 corners in the NFL who can cover a good route. Maybe 5

So explain his lack of production with Kap as the QB?

Kaepernick throws too hard...he throws the ball too high, he didn't target Crabtree enough...Kap sucks....lol...that's what this post will receive, now is it the truth....

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Crab is actually a special commodity
He specializes in route running
and there are only about 5 corners in the NFL who can cover a good route. Maybe 5

So explain his lack of production with Kap as the QB?

Easy 2012 we ran wco type passing concepts with Crab

last season he was gone but came back same type of routes

this year he was delegated to fades and verticals or curls for the most part.

Check the tape, every time he ran a precision route it was basically no contest and completed.

his 2 longest td's were on a dino route
and a 10 yard slant route.

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Crab is actually a special commodity
He specializes in route running
and there are only about 5 corners in the NFL who can cover a good route. Maybe 5

So explain his lack of production with Kap as the QB?

Kaepernick throws too hard...he throws the ball too high, he didn't target Crabtree enough...Kap sucks....lol...that's what this post will receive, now is it the truth....

it's not we didn't utilize his skills
if we want to take deep shots get speedsters in the game. let ellington get in there and stretch the field don't do it with lloyd boldin and crab.

boldin is a sit down in the zone move the chains. sometimes run the out and most times catch it in traffic because rarely will he beat a man and get separation.

lloyd is a circus catch guy for a reason...because his speed is lacking

crab is precision and yac guy. get him the ball immediately in space and he'll make something happen.
all the underneath routes we ran on 3rd and 15 and he ends up with 13 yards makes you wonder why we didn't run those routes on 3rd and 7 more often.

Niner fans can argue all day long on just how good or bad Crabtree is, but one thing is pretty certain IMO - he's going to think he's a lot more valuable than Baalke thinks he is. I don't see any way Crabtree is with the team next year. Somebody will pay him more money than the Niners are willing to pay.

I think he's a good receiver, but I don't think he's ever been close to what fans would call a true #1 receiver. He's never had anything close to elite numbers.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Crab is actually a special commodity
He specializes in route running
and there are only about 5 corners in the NFL who can cover a good route. Maybe 5

So explain his lack of production with Kap as the QB?

Kaepernick throws too hard...he throws the ball too high, he didn't target Crabtree enough...Kap sucks....lol...that's what this post will receive, now is it the truth....

it's not we didn't utilize his skills
if we want to take deep shots get speedsters in the game. let ellington get in there and stretch the field don't do it with lloyd boldin and crab.

boldin is a sit down in the zone move the chains. sometimes run the out and most times catch it in traffic because rarely will he beat a man and get separation.

lloyd is a circus catch guy for a reason...because his speed is lacking

crab is precision and yac guy. get him the ball immediately in space and he'll make something happen.
all the underneath routes we ran on 3rd and 15 and he ends up with 13 yards makes you wonder why we didn't run those routes on 3rd and 7 more often.

If hes a YAC guy then how is an underneath route on 3rd 15 for 13 end up happening.....kind of an oxymoron

Originally posted by crake49:

Niner fans can argue all day long on just how good or bad Crabtree is, but one thing is pretty certain IMO - he's going to think he's a lot more valuable than Baalke thinks he is. I don't see any way Crabtree is with the team next year. Somebody will pay him more money than the Niners are willing to pay.

I think he's a good receiver, but I don't think he's ever been close to what fans would call a true #1 receiver. He's never had anything close to elite numbers.

Well I just hope he fetches us a nice third round comp pick. Both he and Iupati for that matter. Two third round comp picks in 2016 can only help to add back talent to our roster

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Well I just hope he fetches us a nice third round comp pick. Both he and Iupati for that matter. Two third round comp picks in 2016 can only help to add back talent to our roster

Oh yeah, forgot about the comp picks. Should get a couple good ones for those two.

Although I kind of hope the 49ers try and sign the best 3-4 DE possible in FA. Might offset a comp pick, but it's worth it if Justin Smith retires. Made a similar move in 2008 when BY retired, we signed Cowboy. History might repeat itself.

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Crab is actually a special commodity
He specializes in route running
and there are only about 5 corners in the NFL who can cover a good route. Maybe 5

So explain his lack of production with Kap as the QB?

Kaepernick throws too hard...he throws the ball too high, he didn't target Crabtree enough...Kap sucks....lol...that's what this post will receive, now is it the truth....

it's not we didn't utilize his skills
if we want to take deep shots get speedsters in the game. let ellington get in there and stretch the field don't do it with lloyd boldin and crab.

boldin is a sit down in the zone move the chains. sometimes run the out and most times catch it in traffic because rarely will he beat a man and get separation.

lloyd is a circus catch guy for a reason...because his speed is lacking

crab is precision and yac guy. get him the ball immediately in space and he'll make something happen.
all the underneath routes we ran on 3rd and 15 and he ends up with 13 yards makes you wonder why we didn't run those routes on 3rd and 7 more often.

If hes a YAC guy then how is an underneath route on 3rd 15 for 13 end up happening.....kind of an oxymoron

?
yards after catch.
he gets chunks of yards after the catch in tight spaces and open field. he's elusive he just doesn't have the top gear.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
?
yards after catch.
he gets chunks of yards after the catch in tight spaces and open field. he's elusive he just doesn't have the top gear.

He's a very nice possession receiver, but you said it yourself - he doesn't have that top gear. He can't really run away from anyone. If he had 4.3 speed, he'd be an elite receiver.

Let crabs walk seems not interested anymore, draft Tyler lockett from ksu kid can flat out ball and return kicks and punts!

Originally posted by 20hearst:
Let crabs walk seems not interested anymore, draft Tyler lockett from ksu kid can flat out ball and return kicks and punts!

great 1st post

I have mixed feelings about Crabtree. Too many unanswered questions will lead us to letting him walk. I think he's a decent #2 receiver and that's about it. All of our receivers (with the exception of Boldin) under produced last year. Many things contributed such as 1. How much speed did he lose after the blown achillies? 2. How much of his struggles came from poor pass schemes? 3. Did he pull a Vernon and mentally check out?

I'm most worried about #2. We need to find some receivers who can get QUICK separation and Crabtree is not your guy especially when paired with Boldin. So he becomes a duplication and he's not a luxury that we can afford especially at the price that he'll get from other teams.

Don't see Mike Crabtree on the team next year.