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Top 100 Players of 2012
May 31, 2012 at 11:22 AM
- captveg
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Peyton Manning being on this list of best 2011 players is idiotic on untold levels.
May 31, 2012 at 11:25 AM
- ghostrider
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Originally posted by captveg:
Peyton Manning being on this list of best 2011 players is idiotic on untold levels.
Here's a question I have: Why do they call it the "Top 100 players of 2012" instead of 2011? We haven't played the 2012 season yet.
May 31, 2012 at 11:26 AM
- susweel
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Originally posted by DirtyP:
Originally posted by ghostrider:
lol, "storied." Those are some boring stories too
To me, baseball is somewhat like bowling. I LOVE to bowl, but watching other people bowl is incredibly boring. So goes baseball, golf, poker, etc.
Bowling Golf and Poker primarily feature fat white men in polo's and you hardly even have to move in those activities. Die hard sports fans would not even think about lumping Baseball in with those sports that you named. Willie Mays, Lou Gehrig , Hank Aaron, Joe DiMaggio, Barry Bonds, Ken Griffey Jr, those are legendary athletes
I love watching baseball.......................................when I wonna take a nap.
May 31, 2012 at 11:45 AM
- Oakland-Niner
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Originally posted by ghostrider:
Originally posted by captveg:
Peyton Manning being on this list of best 2011 players is idiotic on untold levels.
Here's a question I have: Why do they call it the "Top 100 players of 2012" instead of 2011? We haven't played the 2012 season yet.
Because the list is a "guess" of who will have (not had) the best performances next year. That is how you can get a guy like Peyton on the list at 50.
May 31, 2012 at 12:05 PM
- DirtyP
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Originally posted by ghostrider:
lol, athletes. I would argue that there's more movement in bowling than in baseball. 99% of baseball is standing/sitting around which is one of the main reasons why it is boring.
BTW, I'm wondering if you would care to define the term "die hard sports fan" for me? Does that mean that I'm supposed to like anything and everything that appears on ESPN regardless of how interesting it is or isn't? I'm wondering how much into watching the "sport" of curling you might be since you are so "die hard"?
You can argue anything you want. I could argue that there is more continuous movement in tennis than there is football, that doesn't mean its more of a sport and its also not true, just like what you would have tried to argue about bowling is not true. Pitchers face batters in a head to head battles until one team has been defeated. It doesn't get more competitive than that.And yeah;
die hard sports fan: A man who enjoys all of the great American born sports; Football, Basketball, Baseball. If you don't like those 3 sports get the f**k outta my country
[ Edited by DirtyP on May 31, 2012 at 12:14 PM ]
May 31, 2012 at 12:05 PM
- DirtyP
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Originally posted by susweel:
I love watching baseball.......................................when I wonna take a nap.
nothing better than waking up to the bases loaded in the 9th
May 31, 2012 at 12:26 PM
- ghostrider
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Originally posted by DirtyP:
Originally posted by ghostrider:
lol, athletes. I would argue that there's more movement in bowling than in baseball. 99% of baseball is standing/sitting around which is one of the main reasons why it is boring.
BTW, I'm wondering if you would care to define the term "die hard sports fan" for me? Does that mean that I'm supposed to like anything and everything that appears on ESPN regardless of how interesting it is or isn't? I'm wondering how much into watching the "sport" of curling you might be since you are so "die hard"?
You can argue anything you want. I could argue that there is more continuous movement in tennis than there is football, that doesn't mean its more of a sport and its also not true, just like what you would have tried to argue is not true. Pitcher faces batter head to head, doesn't get more competitive than that. And yeah, a die hard sports fan is a man who enjoys all of the great American born sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball. If you don't like those 3 sports get the f**k outta my country
First of all, I was simply showing that continuous movement doesn't equate to interesting. However, it can strongly correlate to it. A game of who could sit without blinking the longest obviously isn't going to be interesting. You were also the first to bring up continuous movement as a criteria, not me.
Secondly, competitive doesn't always equate to interesting to watch. See my examples of bowling, golf, poker, curling. All of which could be very competitive and yet still uninteresting to watch. Add to it: equestrian, arm wrestling, strong man, iditarod, track and field, freestyle swimming, most mainstream Olympic events, and many others.
Thirdly, football and baseball are not American born sports. How about roller derby or disc golf? I believe those are "American born". What's your interest level in those?
Fourthly, what are your criteria for a sport being included into the "must like" list in order to be considered a "die hard" sports fan?
[ Edited by ghostrider on May 31, 2012 at 12:38 PM ]
May 31, 2012 at 12:52 PM
- DirtyP
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Originally posted by ghostrider:
First of all, I was simply showing that continuous movement doesn't equate to interesting. However, it can strongly correlate to it. A game of who could sit without blinking the longest obviously isn't going to be interesting. You were also the first to bring up continuous movement as a criteria, not me.
Secondly, competitive doesn't always equate to interesting to watch. See my examples of bowling, golf, poker, curling. All of which could be very competitive and yet still uninteresting to watch. Add to it: equestrian, arm wrestling, strong man, iditarod, track and field, freestyle swimming, most mainstream Olympic events, and many others.
Thirdly, football and baseball are not American born sports. How about roller derby or disc golf? I believe those are "American born". What's your interest level in those?
Fourthly, what are your criteria for a sport being included into the "must like" list in order to be considered a "die hard" sports fan?
not interested. football baseball, basketball, f**k outta my country
May 31, 2012 at 12:57 PM
- andes14
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I can't believe Chris Johnson made it. This is the top 100 players of 2012 and he's still making it based off of what he did in 2009.
May 31, 2012 at 12:58 PM
- ghostrider
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Originally posted by DirtyP:
Originally posted by ghostrider:
First of all, I was simply showing that continuous movement doesn't equate to interesting. However, it can strongly correlate to it. A game of who could sit without blinking the longest obviously isn't going to be interesting. You were also the first to bring up continuous movement as a criteria, not me.
Secondly, competitive doesn't always equate to interesting to watch. See my examples of bowling, golf, poker, curling. All of which could be very competitive and yet still uninteresting to watch. Add to it: equestrian, arm wrestling, strong man, iditarod, track and field, freestyle swimming, most mainstream Olympic events, and many others.
Thirdly, football and baseball are not American born sports. How about roller derby or disc golf? I believe those are "American born". What's your interest level in those?
Fourthly, what are your criteria for a sport being included into the "must like" list in order to be considered a "die hard" sports fan?
not interested. football baseball, basketball, f**k outta my country
Painted yourself in a corner, eh?
May 31, 2012 at 1:00 PM
- ghostrider
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Originally posted by andes14:
I can't believe Chris Johnson made it. This is the top 100 players of 2012 and he's still making it based off of what he did in 2009.
Yeah, whichever of Gore/Aldon is off of the list, with CJ on it, that's a travesty.
May 31, 2012 at 1:03 PM
- bayarealuv
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Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by bayarealuv:
any niners from 50 - 41?? if not i won't even bother watching this episode lol
Vernon was #43.
saw it... thanks
May 31, 2012 at 1:10 PM
- andes14
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Originally posted by ghostrider:
Yeah, whichever of Gore/Aldon is off of the list, with CJ on it, that's a travesty.
And Tebow/Kuhn taking the spot of Goldson.
Kuhn plays like 5-10 snaps a game probably and is a core special teamer. Anyone that's good enough to be one of the top 100 players in football is too good to be a core special teamer. What a joke.
May 31, 2012 at 1:15 PM
- blizzuntz
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:Originally posted by ghostrider:Originally posted by captveg:Peyton Manning being on this list of best 2011 players is idiotic on untold levels.
Here's a question I have: Why do they call it the "Top 100 players of 2012" instead of 2011? We haven't played the 2012 season yet.
Because the list is a "guess" of who will have (not had) the best performances next year. That is how you can get a guy like Peyton on the list at 50.
This doesn't make any sense either Bc Vilma made the list and is suspended for the whole year next year and made the list
May 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM
- ghostrider
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Originally posted by andes14:
Originally posted by ghostrider:
Yeah, whichever of Gore/Aldon is off of the list, with CJ on it, that's a travesty.
And Tebow/Kuhn taking the spot of Goldson.![]()
Kuhn plays like 5-10 snaps a game probably and is a core special teamer. Anyone that's good enough to be one of the top 100 players in football is too good to be a core special teamer. What a joke.
Seriously. I mean even Alex Smith is considerably more deserving than Tebow.