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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
i thought the org. contract was 6 years at 41 million. So he did take less money to coach a college football team.
Nope, York is a cheapskate, the people peddling that will just stick their fingers in their ears, close their eyes and keep on repeating the same rubbish over and over.
Originally posted by NCommand:
It was reported that the Raiders offered him more $. This clearly WAS a mutual decision to move on. This minority Pro-Harbaugh group just lost their only argument to support their anger directed at the FO...that our FO was too cheap to sign Harbaugh long term.
Originally posted by ltrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
It was reported that the Raiders offered him more $. This clearly WAS a mutual decision to move on. This minority Pro-Harbaugh group just lost their only argument to support their anger directed at the FO...that our FO was too cheap to sign Harbaugh long term.
I'm not sure it was the only argument to be disgruntled with the FO's decision to fire Harbaugh. I really like Harbaugh and my main beef with the decision wasn't the $, it was the "philosophical differences", "win with class" and other vague reasons why he was fired. However, if it's true that the FO tried to re-tool the offense and Harbaugh wouldn't go along with the moves (i.e. fire Roman), then Harbaugh had to go.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by kray28:
A small, but vocal minority of posters almost seem to be trying to convince themselves that everything is going to be okay.
As a fan, I hope so.
But like I said, I've seen this movie before.
Eddie did eventually fire Seifert (he actually resigned)...but he had a successor lined up from the start. It was a risky move...but Eddie didn't apologize and made the tough choice.
Then the Yorks canned Mooch...and things were handled diffferently. It would change the course of the franchise for close to a decade.
Now here we are again....they fired the coach. And they don't know who the successor is.
If you think the franchise is being run the same way as Eddie would have done it, you are fooling yourself.
It's totally irrational to expect that we'll go straight back into the Salary Cap Hell days and dark days b/c of a coaching change esp. when the entire coaching staff is still intact and the talent is still here with much more to come.
Please explain in detail how and why you think (evidence) we'll be heading backwards?
Originally posted by kray28:A small, but vocal minority of posters almost seem to be trying to convince themselves that everything is going to be okay.
As a fan, I hope so.
But like I said, I've seen this movie before.
Eddie did eventually fire Seifert (he actually resigned)...but he had a successor lined up from the start. It was a risky move...but Eddie didn't apologize and made the tough choice.
Then the Yorks canned Mooch...and things were handled diffferently. It would change the course of the franchise for close to a decade.
Now here we are again....they fired the coach. And they don't know who the successor is.
If you think the franchise is being run the same way as Eddie would have done it, you are fooling yourself.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by ltrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
It was reported that the Raiders offered him more $. This clearly WAS a mutual decision to move on. This minority Pro-Harbaugh group just lost their only argument to support their anger directed at the FO...that our FO was too cheap to sign Harbaugh long term.
I'm not sure it was the only argument to be disgruntled with the FO's decision to fire Harbaugh. I really like Harbaugh and my main beef with the decision wasn't the $, it was the "philosophical differences", "win with class" and other vague reasons why he was fired. However, if it's true that the FO tried to re-tool the offense and Harbaugh wouldn't go along with the moves (i.e. fire Roman), then Harbaugh had to go.
I agree. I think it was a collective set of issues, no doubt...the 49er way:
Guestimating: Jed/Baalke didn't like:
1. How he handled himself in pressers, him being stand-offish, and channeling that to his QB; not exactly a positive approach for the "face of the franchise"
2. Fighting with other coaches in year 1
3. Ref-beatings, pissing the NFL FO off, etc.
4. Texas job, then Browns, then Michigan and God knows what others with his "wandering eye."
5. Alleged pull for more power/control (confirmed with Michigan role with the same $ and offered more from the Raiders)
6. Personality and social clashes within the building/FO
As to his baby...the offense...we've all seen the grocery-long list of "arrow down" issues there. These alone would be enough to fire any coach esp. when you can look right across to the sidelines of what it's supposed to look like. Had this offense had the injuries the defense did and had this defense not been top 5 every single year no matter who was on the field, we're be a perennial sub-.500 team and this decision wouldn't be argued by anyone.
I applaud the FO for having the balls to do the right thing...for everyone...even Jim and his family.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by kray28:
A small, but vocal minority of posters almost seem to be trying to convince themselves that everything is going to be okay.
As a fan, I hope so.
But like I said, I've seen this movie before.
Eddie did eventually fire Seifert (he actually resigned)...but he had a successor lined up from the start. It was a risky move...but Eddie didn't apologize and made the tough choice.
Then the Yorks canned Mooch...and things were handled diffferently. It would change the course of the franchise for close to a decade.
Now here we are again....they fired the coach. And they don't know who the successor is.
If you think the franchise is being run the same way as Eddie would have done it, you are fooling yourself.
I think the minority is you doom and gloomers honestly.
Originally posted by kray28:
Venture out to the internet at large or listen to the radio, and it's the opposite. Highly unpopular move. Fans of other teams are laughing at us and scratching their heads.
Originally posted by kray28:Venture out to the internet at large or listen to the radio, and it's the opposite. Highly unpopular move. Fans of other teams are laughing at us and scratching their heads.
Let them laugh. How many Lombardi trophies do they have? Jim ain't the only coach out there and I got faith we will find the right coach. Hell we got Fangio in house but we need a guy to whip the offense into shapeOriginally posted by kray28:Venture out to the internet at large or listen to the radio, and it's the opposite. Highly unpopular move. Fans of other teams are laughing at us and scratching their heads.
Originally posted by WINiner:Fans of other teams are just talking s**t because thanks to Harbaugh and his antics the majority of other teams fans dislike the 49ers.