Jim Harbaugh Thread - HC Chargers

People are starting to sound like cheated on girlfriends in this thread now.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by English:

^Lombardi

With friends like these Harbaugh doesn't need enemies!

If anything, even though Harbaugh might not give two shts about the story, but Harbaugh's agent is loving this. All this means for Jim is more $ on his next contact.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by English:

^Lombardi

With friends like these Harbaugh doesn't need enemies!

Yeah. Jim must have drawn the same conclusion, though. About Lombardi.

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
It's one thing to ask about availability of coordinators or position coaches...because they're largely considered fair game. Asking about a head coach is another kettle of fish...I can understand Jed putting a quick kabosh to any notion the Browns had about acquiring Harbaugh. I also understand the team's policy about keeping most things in-house. That said, it makes me wonder why this story has just now surfaced...the Browns hired a head coach, so why is this now an issue? Methinks Haslam should've just left it alone...but he didn't. His apparent assumption there was friction between Baalke and Harbaugh doesn't justify trying to trade for Coach, IMHO. I'd venture to say there are a number of GM's and head coaches that don't necessarily see eye-to-eye, but they still work together, just as Harbaugh and Baalke do. Wow...

PFT published during the combine so it would be "Baalke and Harbaugh are however putting on happy faces at the NFL scouting combine despite the report from ProFootballTalk" w/ a link to PFT. Get people to click on PFT website stories during a busy week of NFL news.

Just a ploy for traffic. They sat on it for weeks for that reason alone.

Also I said it earlier. Mike Pettine completely validated everybody's assumptions of "it's the Browns of course they'd call about Harbaugh. They want to prove their trying their hardest to turn it around."

Pettine used that exact phrase of turning it around but said he doesn't care because it was before they hired him.

Originally posted by iLL49er:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by iLL49er:
this is a great listen, its mike sando and john clayton talking 9ers

http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=577&a=9968164&p=1034&n=John

It might be a "great listen" if it wasn't Seattle people talking about 49ers.

sando did the beat on the 9ers for few yrs, clayton is more a nationa perspective, anyways i found it a good listen

Wow, Sando sounds very objective. Clayton sounds biased and, quite frankly, ignorant. He honestly does not know what he's talking about.

USC made run at San Francisco 49ers' Jim Harbaugh

In the end, it wasn't just the Browns who went after the San Francisco 49ers coach. Along with the University of Texas, USC also made a run at Harbaugh, according to NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport.

It's intriguing that multiple teams believed the coach could be pried away from the job he's held for the past three seasons.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000328799/article/usc-made-run-at-san-francisco-49ers-jim-harbaugh

Originally posted by niners94:

Originally posted by teylo31:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by crabman82:

this is from barrows most recent blog...

Harbaugh and agent David Dunn, however, are seeking to make him the highest-paid coach, something the 49ers are reluctant to fulfill until they win a Super Bowl.


Read more here: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2014/02/york-49ers-had-no-interest-in-trading-jim-harbaugh.html#storylink=cpy


IMO they should just pay the guy, hes one of the top in lthe league, coaches salaries dont count against the cap and we're entering a new stadium which will provide the team with a lot more revenue. even if you make him the highest paid, within the year another guy will pass him.

you do not pay super bowl money if you do not win a super bowl. i would not make him the highest paid coach in the nfl. if that is what he demands then you indeed cut ties with him in my opinion . now if you cut ties with him you do have to bring in a big name like gruden. when you are trying to sell out and pay for a new stadium after you just cut a popular coach,, you gotta make it a little easier to swallow for the fans and i think gruden would be the trick

I would go with David Shaw.

he's not leaving stanford

I think he would.

stanford is his dream job, he has said that multiple times he will stay there as long as he can

NFL jobs trump all. A NFL Jon 30 miles away, will be hard to pass up.

More like 15 miles

We're not losing Jim, stop all this nonsense.

Had nothing to do with Jim. Just geography

Originally posted by buck:

USC made run at San Francisco 49ers' Jim Harbaugh

In the end, it wasn't just the Browns who went after the San Francisco 49ers coach. Along with the University of Texas, USC also made a run at Harbaugh, according to NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport.

It's intriguing that multiple teams believed the coach could be pried away from the job he's held for the past three seasons.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000328799/article/usc-made-run-at-san-francisco-49ers-jim-harbaugh

Bearing in mind all three failed, not very intriguing.

Cleveland Browns-Jim Harbaugh bombshell telling for both sides

Given everything I'm hearing, though, Harbaugh clearly wanted no part of Cleveland. For I'm convinced that if he had, his current employer would not have stood in his way.

As much as York and his top executives value Harbaugh and appreciate the swift and sublime success he has enjoyed since arriving in 2011, a stretch that has included three consecutive NFC Championship Game appearances and a near-miss Super Bowl defeat, they are not inclined to beg him to stick around, either through words or emphatic financial gestures of support.

Yes, they like him, and acknowledge that he's very good at what he does. Sure, he is high-maintenance and at times demanding -- but they can live with that. What Harbaugh's bosses won't do is panic in the face of reports that he might be wooed to greener (as in the color of money) pastures, be they the University of Texas, the University of Southern California or the Capital of Creative Combine Questions.

"We didn't do that when we hired him in the first place, either," one top Niners official reminded me on Saturday, referring to the team's refusal to raise its offer to Harbaugh in the face of a late push (and reportedly sweeter deal) from Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross. "Why would we run scared?"

Simply put, the Niners' brass believes that general manager Trent Baalke has assembled a talented team and is likely to continue making smart roster decisions -- and that Harbaugh is hardly the only person who could coach this team to a championship.


http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/0ap2000000328534/article/cleveland-brownsjim-harbaugh-bombshell-telling-for-both-sides[/url]

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by cciowa:
good job york,, you deny it and now you fudge and say there was contact. the coverup is always more inept than the crime and this is a great example. why did he not just say it in the first place . I really thought when york took over we would not have the type of drama we had before he took over. If i were JH i would hit the road as it sounds like they do not want him. i still love this team but the things they do just make you wonder if they just go looking for trouble

Yep, it looks like York has now been forced to back peddle a bit from his initial statement. I wonder how much farther the will have to go.

I don't agree with this. It's semantics, but I think York was truthful.

He and Harbs said that the Florio report was wrong. It was. York did not say that there was NO contact, just that PFT's "spin" was wrong.

York then clarified via his comments to P King.

So much this. PFT did not publish my comment this morning...for the life of me, I cannot figure out why...

Methinks you put too much faith in a Browns owner being investigated by the Feds Mr. Florio.

Most of this entire story is semantics. Anything to drive up views, I guess.

Something tells me Lombardi is your source but it is largely irrelevant at this point since you are seemingly intent on proving you are right.

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2014/02/source-browns-asked-about-several-49ers-coaches-including-harbaugh.html

Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by iLL49er:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by iLL49er:

this is a great listen, its mike sando and john clayton talking 9ers

http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=577&a=9968164&p=1034&n=John

It might be a "great listen" if it wasn't Seattle people talking about 49ers.

sando did the beat on the 9ers for few yrs, clayton is more a nationa perspective, anyways i found it a good listen

Wow, Sando sounds very objective. Clayton sounds biased and, quite frankly, ignorant. He honestly does not know what he's talking about.

I think John Clayton reports works out of Seattle. Would explain a little of his homerism if im correct

Originally posted by buck:
Cleveland Browns-Jim Harbaugh bombshell telling for both sides

Given everything I'm hearing, though, Harbaugh clearly wanted no part of Cleveland. For I'm convinced that if he had, his current employer would not have stood in his way.

As much as York and his top executives value Harbaugh and appreciate the swift and sublime success he has enjoyed since arriving in 2011, a stretch that has included three consecutive NFC Championship Game appearances and a near-miss Super Bowl defeat, they are not inclined to beg him to stick around, either through words or emphatic financial gestures of support.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/0ap2000000328534/article/cleveland-brownsjim-harbaugh-bombshell-telling-for-both-sides

That is how it should be, if he wants to leave, Jed won't stand in his way, if he wants to stay, Jed wants him here as a coach. It doesn't make sense to give Harbaugh more power because when he leaves our front office will be a mess and we wouldn't be able to get a good GM because of us choosing a coach over a very good GM that we had in Baalke. Im sure Ballke isn't telling Harbaugh how to coach.

Originally posted by horsecore:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by cciowa:
good job york,, you deny it and now you fudge and say there was contact. the coverup is always more inept than the crime and this is a great example. why did he not just say it in the first place . I really thought when york took over we would not have the type of drama we had before he took over. If i were JH i would hit the road as it sounds like they do not want him. i still love this team but the things they do just make you wonder if they just go looking for trouble

Yep, it looks like York has now been forced to back peddle a bit from his initial statement. I wonder how much farther the will have to go.

I don't agree with this. It's semantics, but I think York was truthful.

He and Harbs said that the Florio report was wrong. It was. York did not say that there was NO contact, just that PFT's "spin" was wrong.

York then clarified via his comments to P King.

So much this. PFT did not publish my comment this morning...for the life of me, I cannot figure out why...

Methinks you put too much faith in a Browns owner being investigated by the Feds Mr. Florio.

Most of this entire story is semantics. Anything to drive up views, I guess.

Something tells me Lombardi is your source but it is largely irrelevant at this point since you are seemingly intent on proving you are right.

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2014/02/source-browns-asked-about-several-49ers-coaches-including-harbaugh.html

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Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by theduke85:
How on earth is there a hold up over money in Harbaugh's contract extension?

The GM can't just give a player or coach whatever they want. How many deals with high caliber coaches or players get done quickly? The coach/player wants to get paid as much as possible, and the team wants to pay as little as possible. It's not a new concept, and they'll eventually arrive at a middle ground or (unlikely) part ways. I think some of you are too afraid to lose a coach who has been great for the team, and forget that Baalke/Marathe have done an outstanding job creating very team friendly deals that have helped keep great talent. They know what they're doing.

I agree with what you're saying, but that isn't really relevant here.

If the 49ers give Colin Kaepernick too much money, it has an affect on the rest of the team. For example, giving Kaep $20M a year versus $15M a year is the difference between us being able to keep a player like Crabtree around. Everything must balance out in the end. There's a salary cap, and there are repercussions to overpaying.

However, we're talking about Harbaugh here. There is no cap. Coaches salaries to not count towards the salary cap. The 49ers have no shortage of income. They're not going to go bankrupt making Harbaugh one of the highest-paid coaches in the league. It's not going to prevent us from signing players to contract extensions. It will have literally no bearing on the team whatsoever. It would all boil down to the owners not wanting to pay up.

Now, someone else mentioned that the contract negotiations have maybe hit a snag over how much power Harbaugh will receive. If that's true, that sounds very plausible and understandable to me. But if the hangup is over money -- and the sticking point is, "well, you haven't won a Super Bowl yet" -- then that's absurd.

So they should just give Harbaugh whatever he wants because his salary doesn't count against the cap? Doesn't sound like a great business decision. If you remember when they originally signed Harbaugh, he got quite a bit less than the Dolphins were offering, and so far it's worked out great. All I'm saying is the front office is very shrewd and intelligent, and over the past few years they've done nothing to prove anything other than they know what they're doing. All of a sudden the TMZ of football, PFT, runs with another rumor littered with hyperbole and some people want to throw out the accomplishments our front office has produced in the last few years.

There are 2 organizations in football that will just throw money against the wall and hope something sticks; the Redskins and Cowboys. Are they the sort of team we want to be modeled after? Harbaugh has 2 more years on his deal, and an extension will get done. The way I see it is if the GM and coach aren't willing to fight for what they believe in and think they deserve then they're probably just pushovers that we don't want anyway. As fans we get wrapped up in a "sign every elite player or coach at any cost" mentality, but these people are paid a lot of money to keep emotions out and do what's right for both the short and long term of the team. Should they just pay Fangio whatever he wants too because he's proven to be a top 3 defensive coordinator in the league, or is there a breaking point where Marathe and Baalke say no way? There's nothing wrong with them disagreeing on compensation or power, and all it'll come down to is who bends more to the other's side to make the deal happen.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/2/24/5442024/jim-harbaugh-san-francisco-49ers-cleveland-browns-trade


What is going on?