Jim Harbaugh Thread - HC Chargers

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

Originally posted by crake49:
Sorry, Harbaugh-bashers. He's not going anywhere. You're just going to have to live with your bitterness.

this lol

Not sure how anyone can be bitter with a guy who has averaged 12 wins in his first three years.

Originally posted by 9ers:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by iLL49er:
Peter King @SI_PeterKing
Niner CEO @JedYork to me on Cle's attempt to lure Harbaugh: "The Browns reached out to me, and we had no interest in pursuing it."

Jed should have just said this from the start.

Hey bro...sht happens when you are tweeting on Friday night with half a heat on.

He was responding to an article and probably was trying not to throw Cleveland under the bus. Then Cleveland threw Jed under the bus, forcing his hand.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

Originally posted by crake49:
Sorry, Harbaugh-bashers. He's not going anywhere. You're just going to have to live with your bitterness.

this lol

Not sure how anyone can be bitter with a guy who has averaged 12 wins in his first three years.

me neither but its happening. A lot of candidates names being thrown out to replace a guy that the owner of the team says he wants to extend. Like any of those candidates would be better than Harbaugh

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 9ers:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by iLL49er:
Peter King @SI_PeterKing
Niner CEO @JedYork to me on Cle's attempt to lure Harbaugh: "The Browns reached out to me, and we had no interest in pursuing it."

Jed should have just said this from the start.

Hey bro...sht happens when you are tweeting on Friday night with half a heat on.

He was responding to an article and probably was trying not to throw Cleveland under the bus. Then Cleveland threw Jed under the bus, forcing his hand.

Jed reminding Cleveland of their hierarchy in sports.

Originally posted by dmax:

let harbaugh go...sign david shaw from stanford...BOOM SOLVED

Shaw seems really, really content being at Stanford. Don't see him becoming an NFL HC any time soon tbh. Harbaugh's likely replacement is probably already on the staff unless a better coach is available.

This is Harbaughs team after all hes done for us i cant believe what people are saying i don't care if we came up short after years of being a joke to being able to be proud that our team can beat any one is worth every penny Harbaugh has cost the fact people would even hint at him not being here any more is sickening. Harbaugh is our leader this team is in his identity i do not want any one else as head coach he is our guy.

I have a funny feeling it may go down as the following. JH's phone rings with a familiar number being displayed

JH: Hello

John York: Hey Jim, how's it going with the perpetration for the NFL Draft?

JH: It's going well. There are few legitimate prospects that I've evaluated that can end up helping us towards our goal of winning the SB.

John York: Oh wonderful. Am so glad to hear that. By the way have you spoken to Jed or Trent today?

JH: Thank you and no I haven't spoken to either one lately. We exchanged few emails regarding this whole draft process. I'll give them a call after our conversation is over with.

John York: Oh it's OK Jim you don't have to call them. They just wanted to say bye to you. CAUSE YOU'RE FIRED!!!

JH: But wait a second John.....yet only sound coming from the other end of the line that could be heard was that of dial tone.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by dj43:
I see absolutely no reason the 49ers should extend Harbaugh between now and the end of the 2014 season. He has done a mediocre job with a loaded roster that is capable of winning the Super Bowl. A coach should only be rewarded when he makes the most of the situation he has been given, not when someone stirs up a big stink about something that might have happened. Harbaugh has been a huge improvement over Singletary who was one of the worst coaches in history. Need to keep things in perspective.

I agree Jim had his shortcomings in the super bowl and this past NFCCG but the fact is we have arguably been the best team over the last three years under Jim. Now the problem is we have zero chips to show for it

Yes, that IS the problem. When you have the best talent 3 years in a row, or 2 out of the last 3 years, and have no chips to show for it, you don't deserve a raise. In fact, it is fair to call in question just how good a coach one is.

So the standard now is 3 years without a SB and you're now called into question? I mean, go ahead if you feel indignant enough about it, but stop and think how realistic is it to win a SB in 3 years after taking over a deeply dysfunctional team. Now, if we were still struggling at 8-8 or 6-10, then yes, questioning makes perfect sense. But after winning 36 games in 3 years, 2 NFC West titles, 3 NFC championship appearances in a row with one NFC Championship leading to one SB that we came within 5 yards of winning, most people would call that an incredible success.

Think about it...most teams in the league would KILL for those kinds of "chips" and I would hope most fans would appreciate that kind of ongoing success, especially after going a decade in utter shame and humility.

Ok, so he many not be Bill Walsh great yet (or maybe never), but if all of the above doesn't qualify as "good" in your book, than the problem is with your expectations, not with Harbaugh. It took John Harbaugh 5 years to get his ring, and Carroll just got his first after 20 years of NFL coaching and everyone thinks he's a genius now.

We need to keep the entire team situation in perspective. The franchise had been in purgatory for 10 years. Erickson/Nolan/Singletary were the worst string of coaches the team has ever had (Fred Meyer and Pete McCully excepted). Prior to Singletary's last season, the 49ers were the sexy choice to win the division. Years of weak seasons had yielded lots of high draft choices that looked like high quality. Many were predicting as many as 11 or 12 wins. The talent was here. We all know and recognize that. What Harbaugh took over was poised to do exactly what they did - win. Harbaugh did what was expected from a good coach with excellent talent.

For all us fans, we were ecstatic when Harbaugh delivered what many had expected before his arrival. He was made the messiah and he did a good job. Now, three years later, we see the offense still struggling in critical situations, the young handpicked QB plateaued this past season, and the coaching staff is still struggling with game management issues that are as bad or worse than the Singletary years. Indeed, the team led the league in delay of game penalties 2 years. However, because JH has been SO MUCH better than Singletary, many here still want to anoint him messiah. I am not one of those.

I believe Harbaugh is a good coach, not a great one. ESPN anonymously polled 320 current NFL players prior to the Super Bowl as to which coach in the NFL they would most like to play for. Jim Harbaugh finished 8th. That is just about where I rate him among current NFL coaches.

There's a place in between "messiah" as you call it and just a "good coach" as you believe him to be. It takes a great coach to take a group of talented players who didn't know how to play winning football, and elevate them to perennial SB contenders. For all the issues our offense has had (and there are many), the defense has been pretty spectacular since he took over.

I seriously can't believe you just said that our QB, who just finished up his FIRST FULL season as a starter has "plateaued." Kap was the 10th rated QB in the league last year (91.6) and 7th in QBR (68.6) ahead of such notables as Andrew Luck, Tom Brady, Tony Romo, Russell Wilson, Newton, Dalton and even Alex Smith (49.4). By all measure, he had a great first full year and (IMO) only the pessimist can't see him getting even better with a healthy WR corps.

IMO, people see what they want to see, and not always what's really going on. When a coach fails to win a SB, they definitely open themselves up to intense scrutiny, so I get that. But when you see the entire picture (not just snippets of the bad stuff, which every team deals with), Harbaugh by most objective observers qualifies as a "great coach."

York: "We keep calls to ourselves. I see no reason talking about another team — that's how we do business."

Translation: The Browns are a ****ed up franchise and if they come looking to us for a deal in the future we'll be sure to make them pay top dollar.

How on earth is there a hold up over money in Harbaugh's contract extension? Who cares if he's won a Super Bowl or not? The outcome in playoff games are often decided by a lucky bounce or call along the way. The point is, he's got us to the NFC Championship game 3 years in a row! What more could you ask? (Okay, sure -- technically you could ask for 3 Super Bowl victories, but...) 

What's a more impressive resume: winning the Super Bowl as a 9-7 Wild Card team and missing the playoffs the other two years, or making the NFC Championship game 3 years in a row? It's unquestionably the latter. This is why the talk of "why pay him Super Bowl money if he hasn't won a Super Bowl" is silly to me. 

We've seen his impact on the organization. I hear this knock all the time on Harbaugh that he inherited this team, that he gets too much credit for what others before him put in place. That doesn't make sense. The guys before him had a lot of talent too but couldn't do anything with it. We went from 6-10 to 13-3 when Harbaugh got here. His impact was real, measurable and tangible. The guy is an elite coach. Pay him as one. Don't dance around stuff like "hasn't won a Super Bowl". 

I'd pay him whatever he wants.

People just cant stand our Team...dont take this stuff seriously till it happens

Originally posted by captveg:
Your: "We keep calls to ourselves. I see no reason talking about another team — that's how we do business."

Translation: The Browns are a ****ed up franchise and if they come looking to us for a deal in the future we'll be sure to make them pay top dollar.

Yeah...Haslem did his team no favors.

Will never read anything from PFT and especially Florio ever again. Disgrace to journalism.

There is a reason why the Cleveland Browns are a joke. Their track record is laughable. They looked foolish when nobody wanted that job, and they had to settle for their 5th of 6th choice. So they leak some bogus story to that weasel Florio (who will write anything for hits), that they "almost" got Harbaugh. Florio clearly has an agenda against Harbaugh. It was obvious to us well before this story broke.

They probably asked about him, and we laughed in their face. That's about as "serious" as the talks got.

Here is what Lowell Cohn thinks:
http://cohn.blogs.pressdemocrat.com/17943/lowells-hunches-about-jim-harbaugh/

Jason Cole ‏@JasonPhilCole

Barring SB win by #49ers, expect #Dolphins next team to chase Harbaugh, again. Rumor was already out there, only got stronger this weekend.