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Report: Kubiak to stay in Houston/Hire Wade as DC

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Dec 31, 2010 at 4:08 AM
Dec 31, 2010 at 7:53 AM
Originally posted by phatbutskinny:


I would've liked Wade as our DC.
Dec 31, 2010 at 8:16 AM
No biggie Wade Phillips isn't the be all end all of DC's.

Thing is he likes to run a 3-4 by getting him that means they must get ready to switch a bad 4-3 defense to a 3-4 defense. That will require more time and patience something that the fans and Kubiak don't seem to have.
Dec 31, 2010 at 8:23 AM
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Originally posted by lamontb:
No biggie Wade Phillips isn't the be all end all of DC's.

Thing is he likes to run a 3-4 by getting him that means they must get ready to switch a bad 4-3 defense to a 3-4 defense. That will require more time and patience something that the fans and Kubiak don't seem to have.

If they were smart they'd hire him only if he plans to keep it a 4-3 if not look for another experienced 4-3 DC. Their personnel best suits a 4-3.
Dec 31, 2010 at 8:48 AM
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by lamontb:
No biggie Wade Phillips isn't the be all end all of DC's.

Thing is he likes to run a 3-4 by getting him that means they must get ready to switch a bad 4-3 defense to a 3-4 defense. That will require more time and patience something that the fans and Kubiak don't seem to have.

If they were smart they'd hire him only if he plans to keep it a 4-3 if not look for another experienced 4-3 DC. Their personnel best suits a 4-3.

True I'm not sure but I believe he did run a 4-3 while he was with the Broncos. Seems like they want to hire Wade just to hire Wade, and sell a big name to the fans.
Dec 31, 2010 at 9:00 AM
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by lamontb:
No biggie Wade Phillips isn't the be all end all of DC's.

Thing is he likes to run a 3-4 by getting him that means they must get ready to switch a bad 4-3 defense to a 3-4 defense. That will require more time and patience something that the fans and Kubiak don't seem to have.

If they were smart they'd hire him only if he plans to keep it a 4-3 if not look for another experienced 4-3 DC. Their personnel best suits a 4-3.

True I'm not sure but I believe he did run a 4-3 while he was with the Broncos. Seems like they want to hire Wade just to hire Wade, and sell a big name to the fans.

Yeah, that is the impression I get to. There are going to be 4-3 DC's available (John Fox and Marvin Lewis are 2 guys looking for work, and their DC's Ron Meeks who was Dungy's DC in Indy could be had as well. Mike Zimmer COULD be a coach retained in Cincy but if not there is another name for DC).

If Cleveland is retarded and let Rob Ryan go that would be another name.
Dec 31, 2010 at 9:08 AM
MAN f**k

Phillips >>>>>>>> Manusky
Dec 31, 2010 at 9:12 AM
To be honest, I didn't see a whole lot there that was linking Wade to the Texans DC gig. It just said that the owner wanted a flashy name at coordinator, and the report then linked that to Wade.

While Wade is a big name, I'm not quite sure that he'll be the best fit or the person who they'll necessarily pursue. Someone above already provided a whole list of proven 4-3 coaches.

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Dec 31, 2010 at 9:31 AM
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by lamontb:
No biggie Wade Phillips isn't the be all end all of DC's.

Thing is he likes to run a 3-4 by getting him that means they must get ready to switch a bad 4-3 defense to a 3-4 defense. That will require more time and patience something that the fans and Kubiak don't seem to have.

If they were smart they'd hire him only if he plans to keep it a 4-3 if not look for another experienced 4-3 DC. Their personnel best suits a 4-3.

True I'm not sure but I believe he did run a 4-3 while he was with the Broncos. Seems like they want to hire Wade just to hire Wade, and sell a big name to the fans.

Yeah, that is the impression I get to. There are going to be 4-3 DC's available (John Fox and Marvin Lewis are 2 guys looking for work, and their DC's Ron Meeks who was Dungy's DC in Indy could be had as well. Mike Zimmer COULD be a coach retained in Cincy but if not there is another name for DC).

If Cleveland is retarded and let Rob Ryan go that would be another name.

i would really like the niners to take a look at Rob Ryan if they plan on sticking with the 3-4. With the possibility of no free agency I think it would be smart to stick with the 3-4. They just need to make the philosophy of that scheme to be more aggressive.
Dec 31, 2010 at 9:38 AM
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by lamontb:
No biggie Wade Phillips isn't the be all end all of DC's.

Thing is he likes to run a 3-4 by getting him that means they must get ready to switch a bad 4-3 defense to a 3-4 defense. That will require more time and patience something that the fans and Kubiak don't seem to have.

If they were smart they'd hire him only if he plans to keep it a 4-3 if not look for another experienced 4-3 DC. Their personnel best suits a 4-3.

True I'm not sure but I believe he did run a 4-3 while he was with the Broncos. Seems like they want to hire Wade just to hire Wade, and sell a big name to the fans.

Yeah, that is the impression I get to. There are going to be 4-3 DC's available (John Fox and Marvin Lewis are 2 guys looking for work, and their DC's Ron Meeks who was Dungy's DC in Indy could be had as well. Mike Zimmer COULD be a coach retained in Cincy but if not there is another name for DC).

If Cleveland is retarded and let Rob Ryan go that would be another name.

i would really like the niners to take a look at Rob Ryan if they plan on sticking with the 3-4. With the possibility of no free agency I think it would be smart to stick with the 3-4. They just need to make the philosophy of that scheme to be more aggressive.

I am not sure Holmgren would fire him though. If Mangini is gone I think they'll just replace the guy with the HC tag and let him put together an offensive staff. Ryan has done great there this year.
Dec 31, 2010 at 10:27 AM
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by lamontb:
No biggie Wade Phillips isn't the be all end all of DC's.

Thing is he likes to run a 3-4 by getting him that means they must get ready to switch a bad 4-3 defense to a 3-4 defense. That will require more time and patience something that the fans and Kubiak don't seem to have.

If they were smart they'd hire him only if he plans to keep it a 4-3 if not look for another experienced 4-3 DC. Their personnel best suits a 4-3.

True I'm not sure but I believe he did run a 4-3 while he was with the Broncos. Seems like they want to hire Wade just to hire Wade, and sell a big name to the fans.

Yeah, that is the impression I get to. There are going to be 4-3 DC's available (John Fox and Marvin Lewis are 2 guys looking for work, and their DC's Ron Meeks who was Dungy's DC in Indy could be had as well. Mike Zimmer COULD be a coach retained in Cincy but if not there is another name for DC).

If Cleveland is retarded and let Rob Ryan go that would be another name.

i would really like the niners to take a look at Rob Ryan if they plan on sticking with the 3-4. With the possibility of no free agency I think it would be smart to stick with the 3-4. They just need to make the philosophy of that scheme to be more aggressive.

I am not sure Holmgren would fire him though. If Mangini is gone I think they'll just replace the guy with the HC tag and let him put together an offensive staff. Ryan has done great there this year.

Yea that would be smart. Plus the Cle. defense seems to really respond to Ryan and he's done a great job with limited pass rushers. He's put together a really really solid secondary by adding Haden and Sheldon Brown.

I hope Rob gets his shot before his big mouth brother makes him look bad b/c this feet scandal just keeps gettign worse with these new leaked pics of his wife with another man.
Dec 31, 2010 at 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by lamontb:
No biggie Wade Phillips isn't the be all end all of DC's.

Thing is he likes to run a 3-4 by getting him that means they must get ready to switch a bad 4-3 defense to a 3-4 defense. That will require more time and patience something that the fans and Kubiak don't seem to have.

If they were smart they'd hire him only if he plans to keep it a 4-3 if not look for another experienced 4-3 DC. Their personnel best suits a 4-3.

True I'm not sure but I believe he did run a 4-3 while he was with the Broncos. Seems like they want to hire Wade just to hire Wade, and sell a big name to the fans.

Yeah, that is the impression I get to. There are going to be 4-3 DC's available (John Fox and Marvin Lewis are 2 guys looking for work, and their DC's Ron Meeks who was Dungy's DC in Indy could be had as well. Mike Zimmer COULD be a coach retained in Cincy but if not there is another name for DC).

If Cleveland is retarded and let Rob Ryan go that would be another name.

i would really like the niners to take a look at Rob Ryan if they plan on sticking with the 3-4. With the possibility of no free agency I think it would be smart to stick with the 3-4. They just need to make the philosophy of that scheme to be more aggressive.

I am not sure Holmgren would fire him though. If Mangini is gone I think they'll just replace the guy with the HC tag and let him put together an offensive staff. Ryan has done great there this year.

Yea that would be smart. Plus the Cle. defense seems to really respond to Ryan and he's done a great job with limited pass rushers. He's put together a really really solid secondary by adding Haden and Sheldon Brown.

I hope Rob gets his shot before his big mouth brother makes him look bad b/c this feet scandal just keeps gettign worse with these new leaked pics of his wife with another man.

I hope so too. Denver would be a good landing spot for him IMO, just not sure if they would go that route.
Dec 31, 2010 at 11:13 AM
That Texans Message Board is looking like Niner Talk right now LOL
Dec 31, 2010 at 11:29 AM
Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
That Texans Message Board is looking like Niner Talk right now LOL

There's even a thread about trading Mario Williams
wasn't there a thread yesterday about trading Willis?

http://boards.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=22259
Quote:
This is what I think is the best idea. Let me remind you that I am a HUGE Mario fan. I think that we would be most valuable as trade bait. He could probobly stand out at DE in a 3-4 but it is a contract year for him and he is going to want to get big money in the 2012 offseason. 3-4 DE's don't bring in contracts the size of what Mario wants. Adding to the potential is the possible lack of free agency. Teams might be more willing to give up more in a trade this offseason because they can't improve in free agency. We could pick up a number of good draft picks to remold the defense to fit a 3-4.
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