Vikings Release MOSS!!!!!

Originally posted by CrAnKD4TCRabTree:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Mantastic25:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Ajanke:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Ajanke:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by KRS-1:
If the 9ers claim Moss, it would cost us his current salary (3+million) for 8 games. He is a FA after the year, is it really worth it for a 2-6 team to pay Moss for 8 games ?

No the vikings are paying his salary for the entire year.

Nope...if you acquire him via waivers you are on the hook for 3.38 million dollars of his 6.4 million dollar deal.

I don't see why not. It's not like spending 3 million that we otherwise probably wont use for this year is going to hurt us.

But where will it take us ? You rent a player to win a few games even though you still won't make the playoffs barring winning at least 7 of your last 8 games..possibly even all 8 ?

why not? I mean if we have 3 million that we otherwise wouldn't use might as well do it right? unless we're playing for a draft pick.

It's not about a draft pick, but Moss takes away snaps and targets from the other young receivers. At this point the likelihood of this team making the playoffs relies on a miracle so you might as well let those young WR's get as many opportunities as possible so that they can continue to grow.

You also have to keep in mind, Moss played for the Pats and the Pats do things the right way. If he doesn't like Sing or Sing's way of doing things he could quit on the team quickly (he has before) and be a liability or he could be headed back to the waiver wire which then would have made his acquisition a waste of time and money.

Actually, I don't see him taking much away from the other guys. If anything, they can utilize him as a decoy most of the time. Just send him on go routes and take a safety out of the box. D-coordinators have to account for him. I say go get him. He'd certainly make Mike Johnson's job a lot easier.

He pushes someone down the depth chart and probably off the active roster, it also means you have to let one player go from your 53 man roster to clear a roster spot.

And what if he clashes with Sing, then he becomes a liability to this team. The risk is greater than the reward IMHO.

We'd be better off to wait until FA opens in March and if he decides to test the market, maybe you pursue his services where he'd have minicamps, OTA's, training camp and the preseason for him to learn the offense and work on chemistry with whoever the starting QB will be. If he decides not to test the market, well life still goes on and the sky will not fall.

Moss >>> Morgan, Zeigler, Ginn
K release Jason Hill

sign him plz
kthxbye

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by CrAnKD4TCRabTree:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Mantastic25:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Ajanke:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Ajanke:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by KRS-1:
If the 9ers claim Moss, it would cost us his current salary (3+million) for 8 games. He is a FA after the year, is it really worth it for a 2-6 team to pay Moss for 8 games ?

No the vikings are paying his salary for the entire year.

Nope...if you acquire him via waivers you are on the hook for 3.38 million dollars of his 6.4 million dollar deal.

I don't see why not. It's not like spending 3 million that we otherwise probably wont use for this year is going to hurt us.

But where will it take us ? You rent a player to win a few games even though you still won't make the playoffs barring winning at least 7 of your last 8 games..possibly even all 8 ?

why not? I mean if we have 3 million that we otherwise wouldn't use might as well do it right? unless we're playing for a draft pick.

It's not about a draft pick, but Moss takes away snaps and targets from the other young receivers. At this point the likelihood of this team making the playoffs relies on a miracle so you might as well let those young WR's get as many opportunities as possible so that they can continue to grow.

You also have to keep in mind, Moss played for the Pats and the Pats do things the right way. If he doesn't like Sing or Sing's way of doing things he could quit on the team quickly (he has before) and be a liability or he could be headed back to the waiver wire which then would have made his acquisition a waste of time and money.

Actually, I don't see him taking much away from the other guys. If anything, they can utilize him as a decoy most of the time. Just send him on go routes and take a safety out of the box. D-coordinators have to account for him. I say go get him. He'd certainly make Mike Johnson's job a lot easier.

He pushes someone down the depth chart and probably off the active roster, it also means you have to let one player go from your 53 man roster to clear a roster spot.

And what if he clashes with Sing, then he becomes a liability to this team. The risk is greater than the reward IMHO.

We'd be better off to wait until FA opens in March and if he decides to test the market, maybe you pursue his services where he'd have minicamps, OTA's, training camp and the preseason for him to learn the offense and work on chemistry with whoever the starting QB will be. If he decides not to test the market, well life still goes on and the sky will not fall.

Moss >>> Morgan, Zeigler, Ginn
K release Jason Hill

sign him plz
kthxbye

Yeah but Morgan, Z & Ginn are more likely to give 100% on every play whereas Moss takes plays off when he feels the need to. Those guys also will see fewer actual game snaps with Moss in the lineup and I'd rather let those guys get a chance to develop and grow as players right now and get as many chances as possible.

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by CrAnKD4TCRabTree:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Mantastic25:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Ajanke:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Ajanke:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by KRS-1:
If the 9ers claim Moss, it would cost us his current salary (3+million) for 8 games. He is a FA after the year, is it really worth it for a 2-6 team to pay Moss for 8 games ?

No the vikings are paying his salary for the entire year.

Nope...if you acquire him via waivers you are on the hook for 3.38 million dollars of his 6.4 million dollar deal.

I don't see why not. It's not like spending 3 million that we otherwise probably wont use for this year is going to hurt us.

But where will it take us ? You rent a player to win a few games even though you still won't make the playoffs barring winning at least 7 of your last 8 games..possibly even all 8 ?

why not? I mean if we have 3 million that we otherwise wouldn't use might as well do it right? unless we're playing for a draft pick.

It's not about a draft pick, but Moss takes away snaps and targets from the other young receivers. At this point the likelihood of this team making the playoffs relies on a miracle so you might as well let those young WR's get as many opportunities as possible so that they can continue to grow.

You also have to keep in mind, Moss played for the Pats and the Pats do things the right way. If he doesn't like Sing or Sing's way of doing things he could quit on the team quickly (he has before) and be a liability or he could be headed back to the waiver wire which then would have made his acquisition a waste of time and money.

Actually, I don't see him taking much away from the other guys. If anything, they can utilize him as a decoy most of the time. Just send him on go routes and take a safety out of the box. D-coordinators have to account for him. I say go get him. He'd certainly make Mike Johnson's job a lot easier.

He pushes someone down the depth chart and probably off the active roster, it also means you have to let one player go from your 53 man roster to clear a roster spot.

And what if he clashes with Sing, then he becomes a liability to this team. The risk is greater than the reward IMHO.

We'd be better off to wait until FA opens in March and if he decides to test the market, maybe you pursue his services where he'd have minicamps, OTA's, training camp and the preseason for him to learn the offense and work on chemistry with whoever the starting QB will be. If he decides not to test the market, well life still goes on and the sky will not fall.

Moss >>> Morgan, Zeigler, Ginn
K release Jason Hill

sign him plz
kthxbye

Yeah but Morgan, Z & Ginn are more likely to give 100% on every play whereas Moss takes plays off when he feels the need to. Those guys also will see fewer actual game snaps with Moss in the lineup and I'd rather let those guys get a chance to develop and grow as players right now and get as many chances as possible.

Moss giving 50% is better than all three of these guys combined

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by KRS-1:
If the 9ers claim Moss, it would cost us his current salary (3+million) for 8 games. He is a FA after the year, is it really worth it for a 2-6 team to pay Moss for 8 games ?

i think so. in fact, i'd rather do that than be on the hook for a longer contract. He would be a rental. If the team truly believes they can still make the playoffs, they should try to get him.

Does anyone actually believe with Moss we could win 7 of our last 8 games ?

5 games against division opponents though. I think you can make the argument that if we win all 5 of those games and 1 game against Tampa, GB or San Diego we have a pretty good chance at the playoffs.

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by CrAnKD4TCRabTree:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Mantastic25:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Ajanke:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Ajanke:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by KRS-1:
If the 9ers claim Moss, it would cost us his current salary (3+million) for 8 games. He is a FA after the year, is it really worth it for a 2-6 team to pay Moss for 8 games ?

No the vikings are paying his salary for the entire year.

Nope...if you acquire him via waivers you are on the hook for 3.38 million dollars of his 6.4 million dollar deal.

I don't see why not. It's not like spending 3 million that we otherwise probably wont use for this year is going to hurt us.

But where will it take us ? You rent a player to win a few games even though you still won't make the playoffs barring winning at least 7 of your last 8 games..possibly even all 8 ?

why not? I mean if we have 3 million that we otherwise wouldn't use might as well do it right? unless we're playing for a draft pick.

It's not about a draft pick, but Moss takes away snaps and targets from the other young receivers. At this point the likelihood of this team making the playoffs relies on a miracle so you might as well let those young WR's get as many opportunities as possible so that they can continue to grow.

You also have to keep in mind, Moss played for the Pats and the Pats do things the right way. If he doesn't like Sing or Sing's way of doing things he could quit on the team quickly (he has before) and be a liability or he could be headed back to the waiver wire which then would have made his acquisition a waste of time and money.

Actually, I don't see him taking much away from the other guys. If anything, they can utilize him as a decoy most of the time. Just send him on go routes and take a safety out of the box. D-coordinators have to account for him. I say go get him. He'd certainly make Mike Johnson's job a lot easier.

He pushes someone down the depth chart and probably off the active roster, it also means you have to let one player go from your 53 man roster to clear a roster spot.

And what if he clashes with Sing, then he becomes a liability to this team. The risk is greater than the reward IMHO.

We'd be better off to wait until FA opens in March and if he decides to test the market, maybe you pursue his services where he'd have minicamps, OTA's, training camp and the preseason for him to learn the offense and work on chemistry with whoever the starting QB will be. If he decides not to test the market, well life still goes on and the sky will not fall.

Moss >>> Morgan, Zeigler, Ginn
K release Jason Hill

sign him plz
kthxbye

Yeah but Morgan, Z & Ginn are more likely to give 100% on every play whereas Moss takes plays off when he feels the need to. Those guys also will see fewer actual game snaps with Moss in the lineup and I'd rather let those guys get a chance to develop and grow as players right now and get as many chances as possible.

Moss giving 50% is better than all three of these guys combined

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by KRS-1:
If the 9ers claim Moss, it would cost us his current salary (3+million) for 8 games. He is a FA after the year, is it really worth it for a 2-6 team to pay Moss for 8 games ?

i think so. in fact, i'd rather do that than be on the hook for a longer contract. He would be a rental. If the team truly believes they can still make the playoffs, they should try to get him.

Does anyone actually believe with Moss we could win 7 of our last 8 games ?

5 games against division opponents though. I think you can make the argument that if we win all 5 of those games and 1 game against Tampa, GB or San Diego we have a pretty good chance at the playoffs.

Is 8-8 good enough to win this division ? Can we actually win 6 of 8 games, 5 of which are divisional ? Will Moss want to be here and will he clash or coincide with Sing's personality...which Moss shows up here ?

There are a lot of IF's and questions that surround this all and I am not sure he provides all the answers to the questions.

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by KRS-1:
If the 9ers claim Moss, it would cost us his current salary (3+million) for 8 games. He is a FA after the year, is it really worth it for a 2-6 team to pay Moss for 8 games ?

i think so. in fact, i'd rather do that than be on the hook for a longer contract. He would be a rental. If the team truly believes they can still make the playoffs, they should try to get him.

Does anyone actually believe with Moss we could win 7 of our last 8 games ?

5 games against division opponents though. I think you can make the argument that if we win all 5 of those games and 1 game against Tampa, GB or San Diego we have a pretty good chance at the playoffs.

Is 8-8 good enough to win this division ? Can we actually win 6 of 8 games, 5 of which are divisional ? Will Moss want to be here and will he clash or coincide with Sing's personality...which Moss shows up here ?

There are a lot of IF's and questions that surround this all and I am not sure he provides all the answers to the questions.

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by KRS-1:
If the 9ers claim Moss, it would cost us his current salary (3+million) for 8 games. He is a FA after the year, is it really worth it for a 2-6 team to pay Moss for 8 games ?

i think so. in fact, i'd rather do that than be on the hook for a longer contract. He would be a rental. If the team truly believes they can still make the playoffs, they should try to get him.

Does anyone actually believe with Moss we could win 7 of our last 8 games ?

5 games against division opponents though. I think you can make the argument that if we win all 5 of those games and 1 game against Tampa, GB or San Diego we have a pretty good chance at the playoffs.

Is 8-8 good enough to win this division ? Can we actually win 6 of 8 games, 5 of which are divisional ? Will Moss want to be here and will he clash or coincide with Sing's personality...which Moss shows up here ?

There are a lot of IF's and questions that surround this all and I am not sure he provides all the answers to the questions.

would you be willing to pay $8million to find the answer

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by KRS-1:
If the 9ers claim Moss, it would cost us his current salary (3+million) for 8 games. He is a FA after the year, is it really worth it for a 2-6 team to pay Moss for 8 games ?

i think so. in fact, i'd rather do that than be on the hook for a longer contract. He would be a rental. If the team truly believes they can still make the playoffs, they should try to get him.

Does anyone actually believe with Moss we could win 7 of our last 8 games ?

5 games against division opponents though. I think you can make the argument that if we win all 5 of those games and 1 game against Tampa, GB or San Diego we have a pretty good chance at the playoffs.

Is 8-8 good enough to win this division ? Can we actually win 6 of 8 games, 5 of which are divisional ? Will Moss want to be here and will he clash or coincide with Sing's personality...which Moss shows up here ?

There are a lot of IF's and questions that surround this all and I am not sure he provides all the answers to the questions.

would you be willing to pay $8million to find the answer

He'd cost 3.3 for the remaining 8 games. Factor in that he doesn't know our playbook or have any chemistry with our QB (whoever that guy is), doesn't exactly sound like a recipe for winning enough games to go to the playoffs.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by KRS-1:
If the 9ers claim Moss, it would cost us his current salary (3+million) for 8 games. He is a FA after the year, is it really worth it for a 2-6 team to pay Moss for 8 games ?

No the vikings are paying his salary for the entire year.

you are not very knowledgeable in this subject

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
I don't give a s**t about any negative crap he brings with him. We aren't good enough to not bring in guys at his skill level.

You cant claim him, he's a vet so he becomes a free agent.

If he is claimed on waivers that teams picks up his salary, if he clears waivers the Vikings still pay him his salary and he can now double dip with the another team

Leave me alone. !!!!!!


So I was wrong on something. Its a monday okay

Originally posted by sincalniner:

Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Sign Him

Ummm, YEA!