Originally posted by danimal:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by danimal:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by danimal:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by danimal:
Huckleberry - ABSOLUTELY.
You are a perfect example of someone who just doesn't get it.
Ya, I don't get how you believe someone can be punished based on false allegations.
well now you are speaking in contradictions and in a vaccuum.
He is being punished on a contractual level, so of course I am going to agree with consequences due to those conditions.
And you just got done implying that his presence in the bar with the female is a true fact.....so what false allegation is Goodell making?
I'm not speaking contradictions.
I believe players should be punished for violating the personal conduct policy. But if there is no proof of a violation, then they shouldn't be punished.
How is just being at a bar a violation of the personal conduct policy?
the concept is really not that advanced. Is it really this hard for you to grasp? You keep saying you agree with the personal conduct policy and then you go on to contradict yourself by saying you think their should be a burden of proof!!!
Clearly you don't understand the spirit of an employment code of conduct agreement.
So you think it's okay to punish him, even though there is no proof?
Forget about the legal aspect for a minute. Yes, he wasn't charged, but the NFL has the right to suspend him if they believe he violated the personal conduct policy. I'm fine with that.
However, there is no proof that he broke the personal conduct policy. All we know is that he was out at the bar with a girl. The rest is just speculation.
How the f**k are you all okay with this? Guilty with no proof?
Huck. I am assuming that the NFL has in place a mechanism where Ben can have very specific questions put to him and the answers not leave the room...especially now that there will be no charges
One way or another, Ben will have to talk to Goodell about anything he did that night beyond simply being present, and short of committing rape.
Do you not make the same assumption?
Yes, I make that assumption.
I feel like the big difference is this:
You all believe that even though the charges against him were dropped, the accusation must have some merit. And because he did something to this girl, rape or not, he should be punished by the NFL.
I believe that even though this accusation was made against him, we have no idea whether it happened or not. For all we know, Ben could've just been having a calm, night out at the bar, and then this rape accusation comes out of nowhere. Because there is no proof of any wrongdoing and just an accusation, I don't think he should be punished by the NFL.
Is it fair to just leave it at that?
