Roethlisberger accused of sexual assault (suspended 6 games)

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by horsecore:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by crzy:
I can't believe he's getting suspended. That's BS

If you’re being sarcastic that’s funny
If you’re being serious well that’s also funny

Look, I just think it's a slippery slope...suspending people based on accusations.

I mean, the Cardinals should just hire some woman to accuse Patrick Willis of groping her so that he gets suspended before a division game.

SLIPPERY SLOPE

you could argue that if no one steps in to punish Roethlisberger for his poor decisions and questionable--to say the least--treatment of women, he'll be on the slippery slope to "actually" raping someone and spending 25-to-life in jail.

Obviously its a new use of the "personal conduct policy" of the NFL, but it falls within the language of that policy. And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

This.

What's also unknown is what the NFL knows. They have their own security investigate incidents like these and it's probably a safe bet that they were a bit more meticulous than the Milledgeville authorities.

Yes, the NFL can handle the investigation better than the police force...that's so idiotic.

Quote:
And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

So what? The only other "questionable" thing on his record is the previous rape allegation, which turned out to be completely false. And now we have this case, where Ben wasn't charged at all.

So what is he being punished for? Apparently you all think it's okay to discipline somebody based on lies and speculation.

The investigation turned up nothing, the charges were dropped, so the NFL should stay out of it. Ben hasn't had off the field issues before, so it's not like this is a recurring theme.

LOL the nfl should stay out of it!?! the nfl makes Rapelesburger Ben doesn't make the nfl

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by crzy:
I can't believe he's getting suspended. That's BS

If you’re being sarcastic that’s funny
If you’re being serious well that’s also funny

Look, I just think it's a slippery slope...suspending people based on accusations.

I mean, the Cardinals should just hire some woman to accuse Patrick Willis of groping her so that he gets suspended before a division game.

SLIPPERY SLOPE

accusations is not what he's being suspended for it's his actions that lead to those accusations

It's pretty clear what he did and what he has done in the past. The fact his dick is too small to cause any real damage to prove what went down is beyond the point, Stevie Wonder can see that s**t

He's not being suspended for rape he's being suspended for being a douchebag

Oh, it's clear is it? Please, share with us what Ben has done now and in the past.

He likes women, so what? He's never done anything wrong, and hasn't been charged with anything.

he acted like a douchebag

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by horsecore:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by crzy:
I can't believe he's getting suspended. That's BS

If you’re being sarcastic that’s funny
If you’re being serious well that’s also funny

Look, I just think it's a slippery slope...suspending people based on accusations.

I mean, the Cardinals should just hire some woman to accuse Patrick Willis of groping her so that he gets suspended before a division game.

SLIPPERY SLOPE

you could argue that if no one steps in to punish Roethlisberger for his poor decisions and questionable--to say the least--treatment of women, he'll be on the slippery slope to "actually" raping someone and spending 25-to-life in jail.

Obviously its a new use of the "personal conduct policy" of the NFL, but it falls within the language of that policy. And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

This.

What's also unknown is what the NFL knows. They have their own security investigate incidents like these and it's probably a safe bet that they were a bit more meticulous than the Milledgeville authorities.

Yes, the NFL can handle the investigation better than the police force...that's so idiotic.

Quote:
And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

So what? The only other "questionable" thing on his record is the previous rape allegation, which turned out to be completely false. And now we have this case, where Ben wasn't charged at all.

So what is he being punished for? Apparently you all think it's okay to discipline somebody based on lies and speculation.

The investigation turned up nothing, the charges were dropped, so the NFL should stay out of it. Ben hasn't had off the field issues before, so it's not like this is a recurring theme.

I don't know about the NFL's investigators, but if you read the article that horsecore posted earlier in this thread it detailed some of the problems in the police investigation, including poor or mismanaged investigation of the crime scene before it was compromised.

Two rape accusations in the span of about a year = a recurring theme.

Look, I'm not saying the NFL should throw him in jail or prosecute him or whatever. That's not their jurisdiction. But within the language of their personal conduct policy they have the power to suspend Roethlisberger for bringing shame to the league. If the details of this case weren't there--regardless of whether or not its a "he said, she said" case--they NFL probably wouldn't do anything. But when you hear the statements and put together what little facts you can reasonably believe, it paints a picture of an entitled guy who isn't handling his fame and money responsibly.

So what should the NFL do? Wait until he's convicted of rape before they intervene? Or step in and say, "Grow up kid, learn how to treat women, learn how to be a man, and think about it for a few weeks while your team plays without you."

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by horsecore:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by crzy:
I can't believe he's getting suspended. That's BS

If you’re being sarcastic that’s funny
If you’re being serious well that’s also funny

Look, I just think it's a slippery slope...suspending people based on accusations.

I mean, the Cardinals should just hire some woman to accuse Patrick Willis of groping her so that he gets suspended before a division game.

SLIPPERY SLOPE

you could argue that if no one steps in to punish Roethlisberger for his poor decisions and questionable--to say the least--treatment of women, he'll be on the slippery slope to "actually" raping someone and spending 25-to-life in jail.

Obviously its a new use of the "personal conduct policy" of the NFL, but it falls within the language of that policy. And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

This.

What's also unknown is what the NFL knows. They have their own security investigate incidents like these and it's probably a safe bet that they were a bit more meticulous than the Milledgeville authorities.

Yes, the NFL can handle the investigation better than the police force...that's so idiotic.

Quote:
And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

So what? The only other "questionable" thing on his record is the previous rape allegation, which turned out to be completely false. And now we have this case, where Ben wasn't charged at all.

So what is he being punished for? Apparently you all think it's okay to discipline somebody based on lies and speculation.

The investigation turned up nothing, the charges were dropped, so the NFL should stay out of it. Ben hasn't had off the field issues before, so it's not like this is a recurring theme.

Idiotic? Only on your part.

The botching of the ensuing investigation by the Milledgeville authorities has been reported - that is what my comment was in reference to. Do some research before running your mouth next time and throwing around insults.

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by horsecore:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by crzy:
I can't believe he's getting suspended. That's BS

If you’re being sarcastic that’s funny
If you’re being serious well that’s also funny

Look, I just think it's a slippery slope...suspending people based on accusations.

I mean, the Cardinals should just hire some woman to accuse Patrick Willis of groping her so that he gets suspended before a division game.

SLIPPERY SLOPE

you could argue that if no one steps in to punish Roethlisberger for his poor decisions and questionable--to say the least--treatment of women, he'll be on the slippery slope to "actually" raping someone and spending 25-to-life in jail.

Obviously its a new use of the "personal conduct policy" of the NFL, but it falls within the language of that policy. And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

This.

What's also unknown is what the NFL knows. They have their own security investigate incidents like these and it's probably a safe bet that they were a bit more meticulous than the Milledgeville authorities.

Yes, the NFL can handle the investigation better than the police force...that's so idiotic.

Quote:
And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

So what? The only other "questionable" thing on his record is the previous rape allegation, which turned out to be completely false. And now we have this case, where Ben wasn't charged at all.

So what is he being punished for? Apparently you all think it's okay to discipline somebody based on lies and speculation.

The investigation turned up nothing, the charges were dropped, so the NFL should stay out of it. Ben hasn't had off the field issues before, so it's not like this is a recurring theme.

LOL the nfl should stay out of it!?! the nfl makes Rapelesburger Ben doesn't make the nfl

So at your job, you think it's OK to be punished for NOT being charged with a crime?

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by horsecore:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by crzy:
I can't believe he's getting suspended. That's BS

If you’re being sarcastic that’s funny
If you’re being serious well that’s also funny

Look, I just think it's a slippery slope...suspending people based on accusations.

I mean, the Cardinals should just hire some woman to accuse Patrick Willis of groping her so that he gets suspended before a division game.

SLIPPERY SLOPE

you could argue that if no one steps in to punish Roethlisberger for his poor decisions and questionable--to say the least--treatment of women, he'll be on the slippery slope to "actually" raping someone and spending 25-to-life in jail.

Obviously its a new use of the "personal conduct policy" of the NFL, but it falls within the language of that policy. And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

This.

What's also unknown is what the NFL knows. They have their own security investigate incidents like these and it's probably a safe bet that they were a bit more meticulous than the Milledgeville authorities.

Yes, the NFL can handle the investigation better than the police force...that's so idiotic.

Quote:
And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

So what? The only other "questionable" thing on his record is the previous rape allegation, which turned out to be completely false. And now we have this case, where Ben wasn't charged at all.

So what is he being punished for? Apparently you all think it's okay to discipline somebody based on lies and speculation.

The investigation turned up nothing, the charges were dropped, so the NFL should stay out of it. Ben hasn't had off the field issues before, so it's not like this is a recurring theme.

I don't know about the NFL's investigators, but if you read the article that horsecore posted earlier in this thread it detailed some of the problems in the police investigation, including poor or mismanaged investigation of the crime scene before it was compromised.

Two rape accusations in the span of about a year = a recurring theme.

Look, I'm not saying the NFL should throw him in jail or prosecute him or whatever. That's not their jurisdiction. But within the language of their personal conduct policy they have the power to suspend Roethlisberger for bringing shame to the league. If the details of this case weren't there--regardless of whether or not its a "he said, she said" case--they NFL probably wouldn't do anything. But when you hear the statements and put together what little facts you can reasonably believe, it paints a picture of an entitled guy who isn't handling his fame and money responsibly.

So what should the NFL do? Wait until he's convicted of rape before they intervene? Or step in and say, "Grow up kid, learn how to treat women, learn how to be a man, and think about it for a few weeks while your team plays without you."

Two FALSE rape accusations in the span of about a year.

And yes, the NFL should wait until he actually commits a crime before punishing him.

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by horsecore:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by crzy:
I can't believe he's getting suspended. That's BS

If you’re being sarcastic that’s funny
If you’re being serious well that’s also funny

Look, I just think it's a slippery slope...suspending people based on accusations.

I mean, the Cardinals should just hire some woman to accuse Patrick Willis of groping her so that he gets suspended before a division game.

SLIPPERY SLOPE

you could argue that if no one steps in to punish Roethlisberger for his poor decisions and questionable--to say the least--treatment of women, he'll be on the slippery slope to "actually" raping someone and spending 25-to-life in jail.

Obviously its a new use of the "personal conduct policy" of the NFL, but it falls within the language of that policy. And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

This.

What's also unknown is what the NFL knows. They have their own security investigate incidents like these and it's probably a safe bet that they were a bit more meticulous than the Milledgeville authorities.

Yes, the NFL can handle the investigation better than the police force...that's so idiotic.

Quote:
And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

So what? The only other "questionable" thing on his record is the previous rape allegation, which turned out to be completely false. And now we have this case, where Ben wasn't charged at all.

So what is he being punished for? Apparently you all think it's okay to discipline somebody based on lies and speculation.

The investigation turned up nothing, the charges were dropped, so the NFL should stay out of it. Ben hasn't had off the field issues before, so it's not like this is a recurring theme.

LOL the nfl should stay out of it!?! the nfl makes Rapelesburger Ben doesn't make the nfl

So at your job, you think it's OK to be punished for NOT being charged with a crime?

I think you miss the point

My job has rules that the local police don't care about

I can't bang a chick at work in the bathroom that would cost me my job but would I get arrested for that s**t no

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by horsecore:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by crzy:
I can't believe he's getting suspended. That's BS

If you’re being sarcastic that’s funny
If you’re being serious well that’s also funny

Look, I just think it's a slippery slope...suspending people based on accusations.

I mean, the Cardinals should just hire some woman to accuse Patrick Willis of groping her so that he gets suspended before a division game.

SLIPPERY SLOPE

you could argue that if no one steps in to punish Roethlisberger for his poor decisions and questionable--to say the least--treatment of women, he'll be on the slippery slope to "actually" raping someone and spending 25-to-life in jail.

Obviously its a new use of the "personal conduct policy" of the NFL, but it falls within the language of that policy. And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

This.

What's also unknown is what the NFL knows. They have their own security investigate incidents like these and it's probably a safe bet that they were a bit more meticulous than the Milledgeville authorities.

Yes, the NFL can handle the investigation better than the police force...that's so idiotic.

Quote:
And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

So what? The only other "questionable" thing on his record is the previous rape allegation, which turned out to be completely false. And now we have this case, where Ben wasn't charged at all.

So what is he being punished for? Apparently you all think it's okay to discipline somebody based on lies and speculation.

The investigation turned up nothing, the charges were dropped, so the NFL should stay out of it. Ben hasn't had off the field issues before, so it's not like this is a recurring theme.

LOL the nfl should stay out of it!?! the nfl makes Rapelesburger Ben doesn't make the nfl

So at your job, you think it's OK to be punished for NOT being charged with a crime?

I think you miss the point

My job has rules that the local police don't care about

I can't bang a chick at work in the bathroom that would cost me my job but would I get arrested for that s**t no

That's not a good analogy.

You're out on the town with a girl, and she later claims that you raped her; after an investigation, you are not charged.

Do you feel you should be punished by your employer for that?

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by horsecore:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by crzy:
I can't believe he's getting suspended. That's BS

If you’re being sarcastic that’s funny
If you’re being serious well that’s also funny

Look, I just think it's a slippery slope...suspending people based on accusations.

I mean, the Cardinals should just hire some woman to accuse Patrick Willis of groping her so that he gets suspended before a division game.

SLIPPERY SLOPE

you could argue that if no one steps in to punish Roethlisberger for his poor decisions and questionable--to say the least--treatment of women, he'll be on the slippery slope to "actually" raping someone and spending 25-to-life in jail.

Obviously its a new use of the "personal conduct policy" of the NFL, but it falls within the language of that policy. And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

This.

What's also unknown is what the NFL knows. They have their own security investigate incidents like these and it's probably a safe bet that they were a bit more meticulous than the Milledgeville authorities.

Yes, the NFL can handle the investigation better than the police force...that's so idiotic.

Quote:
And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

So what? The only other "questionable" thing on his record is the previous rape allegation, which turned out to be completely false. And now we have this case, where Ben wasn't charged at all.

So what is he being punished for? Apparently you all think it's okay to discipline somebody based on lies and speculation.

The investigation turned up nothing, the charges were dropped, so the NFL should stay out of it. Ben hasn't had off the field issues before, so it's not like this is a recurring theme.

I don't know about the NFL's investigators, but if you read the article that horsecore posted earlier in this thread it detailed some of the problems in the police investigation, including poor or mismanaged investigation of the crime scene before it was compromised.

Two rape accusations in the span of about a year = a recurring theme.

Look, I'm not saying the NFL should throw him in jail or prosecute him or whatever. That's not their jurisdiction. But within the language of their personal conduct policy they have the power to suspend Roethlisberger for bringing shame to the league. If the details of this case weren't there--regardless of whether or not its a "he said, she said" case--they NFL probably wouldn't do anything. But when you hear the statements and put together what little facts you can reasonably believe, it paints a picture of an entitled guy who isn't handling his fame and money responsibly.

So what should the NFL do? Wait until he's convicted of rape before they intervene? Or step in and say, "Grow up kid, learn how to treat women, learn how to be a man, and think about it for a few weeks while your team plays without you."

Two FALSE rape accusations in the span of about a year.

And yes, the NFL should wait until he actually commits a crime before punishing him.

How many people do you know who get accused of rape twice in one year?

Just because there "wasn't enough evidence" to prosecute, doesn't mean something didn't happen. Read the statements, read the articles about how poorly the thing was investigated at the scene of the crime, how biased the investigating officer was. Obviously, its not the NFL's job to "correct the mistakes" of the judicial system, but it is their job, or their interest, to protect themselves and the players. A suspension is not only a PR move but its potentially a move on behalf of Roethlisberger, to make him pull his head out of his ass.

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by horsecore:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by crzy:
I can't believe he's getting suspended. That's BS

If you’re being sarcastic that’s funny
If you’re being serious well that’s also funny

Look, I just think it's a slippery slope...suspending people based on accusations.

I mean, the Cardinals should just hire some woman to accuse Patrick Willis of groping her so that he gets suspended before a division game.

SLIPPERY SLOPE

you could argue that if no one steps in to punish Roethlisberger for his poor decisions and questionable--to say the least--treatment of women, he'll be on the slippery slope to "actually" raping someone and spending 25-to-life in jail.

Obviously its a new use of the "personal conduct policy" of the NFL, but it falls within the language of that policy. And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

This.

What's also unknown is what the NFL knows. They have their own security investigate incidents like these and it's probably a safe bet that they were a bit more meticulous than the Milledgeville authorities.

Yes, the NFL can handle the investigation better than the police force...that's so idiotic.

Quote:
And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

So what? The only other "questionable" thing on his record is the previous rape allegation, which turned out to be completely false. And now we have this case, where Ben wasn't charged at all.

So what is he being punished for? Apparently you all think it's okay to discipline somebody based on lies and speculation.

The investigation turned up nothing, the charges were dropped, so the NFL should stay out of it. Ben hasn't had off the field issues before, so it's not like this is a recurring theme.

LOL the nfl should stay out of it!?! the nfl makes Rapelesburger Ben doesn't make the nfl

So at your job, you think it's OK to be punished for NOT being charged with a crime?

I think you miss the point

My job has rules that the local police don't care about

I can't bang a chick at work in the bathroom that would cost me my job but would I get arrested for that s**t no

That's not a good analogy.

You're out on the town with a girl, and she later claims that you raped her; after an investigation, you are not charged.

Do you feel you should be punished by your employer for that?

thats not a good analogy because nobody knows who the f**k I am
I'm not a super bowl winning QB
I don't have a code to live by from my employer when I'm off the clock
I didn't sing a f**king contract for millions of dollars that clearly says I will not be a douchebag

Ben does he was a douchebag and he will pay for it

again he's not being suspended for rape he's being suspended for being a douchebag

2 games still seem about right. Big Ben might not wanna mess around in a real police jurisdiction these fools in Ga are a joke. Let the video get taped over, let a janitor clean the bathroom, officer taking report was chilling and taking pics with big ben and making negative comments about victim to other officers.

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by horsecore:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by crzy:
I can't believe he's getting suspended. That's BS

If you’re being sarcastic that’s funny
If you’re being serious well that’s also funny

Look, I just think it's a slippery slope...suspending people based on accusations.

I mean, the Cardinals should just hire some woman to accuse Patrick Willis of groping her so that he gets suspended before a division game.

SLIPPERY SLOPE

you could argue that if no one steps in to punish Roethlisberger for his poor decisions and questionable--to say the least--treatment of women, he'll be on the slippery slope to "actually" raping someone and spending 25-to-life in jail.

Obviously its a new use of the "personal conduct policy" of the NFL, but it falls within the language of that policy. And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

This.

What's also unknown is what the NFL knows. They have their own security investigate incidents like these and it's probably a safe bet that they were a bit more meticulous than the Milledgeville authorities.

Yes, the NFL can handle the investigation better than the police force...that's so idiotic.

Quote:
And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

So what? The only other "questionable" thing on his record is the previous rape allegation, which turned out to be completely false. And now we have this case, where Ben wasn't charged at all.

So what is he being punished for? Apparently you all think it's okay to discipline somebody based on lies and speculation.

The investigation turned up nothing, the charges were dropped, so the NFL should stay out of it. Ben hasn't had off the field issues before, so it's not like this is a recurring theme.

LOL the nfl should stay out of it!?! the nfl makes Rapelesburger Ben doesn't make the nfl

So at your job, you think it's OK to be punished for NOT being charged with a crime?

I think you miss the point

My job has rules that the local police don't care about

I can't bang a chick at work in the bathroom that would cost me my job but would I get arrested for that s**t no

That's not a good analogy.

You're out on the town with a girl, and she later claims that you raped her; after an investigation, you are not charged.

Do you feel you should be punished by your employer for that?

thats not a good analogy because nobody knows who the f**k I am
I'm not a super bowl winning QB
I don't have a code to live by from my employer when I'm off the clock
I didn't sing a f**king contract for millions of dollars that clearly says I will not be a douchebag

Ben does he was a douchebag and he will pay for it

again he's not being suspended for rape he's being suspended for being a douchebag

OK, so he can be suspended for violating the personal conduct policy. I'd be fine with that if the allegations were actually true.

All we have are two claims which turned out to be false (in a legal sense).

So basically, anyone can just say anything about any NFL player, and the player can get in trouble for it, whether it's true or not.

If I was in that bar, I could say that Ben punched me in the face on his way out. Is it true? Who knows, but the accusation was there, so the NFL will most likely suspend him for it. It's retarded.

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

Originally posted by horsecore:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by crzy:
I can't believe he's getting suspended. That's BS

If you’re being sarcastic that’s funny
If you’re being serious well that’s also funny

Look, I just think it's a slippery slope...suspending people based on accusations.

I mean, the Cardinals should just hire some woman to accuse Patrick Willis of groping her so that he gets suspended before a division game.

SLIPPERY SLOPE

you could argue that if no one steps in to punish Roethlisberger for his poor decisions and questionable--to say the least--treatment of women, he'll be on the slippery slope to "actually" raping someone and spending 25-to-life in jail.

Obviously its a new use of the "personal conduct policy" of the NFL, but it falls within the language of that policy. And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

This.

What's also unknown is what the NFL knows. They have their own security investigate incidents like these and it's probably a safe bet that they were a bit more meticulous than the Milledgeville authorities.

Yes, the NFL can handle the investigation better than the police force...that's so idiotic.

Quote:
And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

So what? The only other "questionable" thing on his record is the previous rape allegation, which turned out to be completely false. And now we have this case, where Ben wasn't charged at all.

So what is he being punished for? Apparently you all think it's okay to discipline somebody based on lies and speculation.

The investigation turned up nothing, the charges were dropped, so the NFL should stay out of it. Ben hasn't had off the field issues before, so it's not like this is a recurring theme.

LOL the nfl should stay out of it!?! the nfl makes Rapelesburger Ben doesn't make the nfl

So at your job, you think it's OK to be punished for NOT being charged with a crime?

I think you miss the point

My job has rules that the local police don't care about

I can't bang a chick at work in the bathroom that would cost me my job but would I get arrested for that s**t no

That's not a good analogy.

You're out on the town with a girl, and she later claims that you raped her; after an investigation, you are not charged.

Do you feel you should be punished by your employer for that?

thats not a good analogy because nobody knows who the f**k I am
I'm not a super bowl winning QB
I don't have a code to live by from my employer when I'm off the clock
I didn't sing a f**king contract for millions of dollars that clearly says I will not be a douchebag

Ben does he was a douchebag and he will pay for it

again he's not being suspended for rape he's being suspended for being a douchebag

OK, so he can be suspended for violating the personal conduct policy. I'd be fine with that if the allegations were actually true.

All we have are two claims which turned out to be false (in a legal sense).

So basically, anyone can just say anything about any NFL player, and the player can get in trouble for it, whether it's true or not.

If I was in that bar, I could say that Ben punched me in the face on his way out. Is it true? Who knows, but the accusation was there, so the NFL will most likely suspend him for it. It's retarded.

WHAT

the nfl rule is simple

1. Don't be a douchebag
2. Don't make us look bad

did he get in trouble the first time no 2nd time your out no strike three in the nfl sorry

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2 games still seem about right. Big Ben might not wanna mess around in a real police jurisdiction these fools in Ga are a joke. Let the video get taped over, let a janitor clean the bathroom, officer taking report was chilling and taking pics with big ben and making negative comments about victim to other officers.

i agree with all this. 2 games from the league. Even one game. But I wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers themselves add to it.

And on the point about Ga: not only everything you said, but their sexual assault laws seem to be slightly different from other states (at least as far as my research went; i'm willing to be educated), in terms of how inebriation relates to consent. In other states "reasonable mental capacity" is a requisite for consent, in which case getting a 20-year old drunk and then having sex with her, coupled with her claims of having said no, probably would have resulted in charges being filed. in many ways I think that Roethlisberger was lucky to have done this in Georgia and not elsewhere.

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I can't believe he's getting suspended. That's BS

If you’re being sarcastic that’s funny
If you’re being serious well that’s also funny

Look, I just think it's a slippery slope...suspending people based on accusations.

I mean, the Cardinals should just hire some woman to accuse Patrick Willis of groping her so that he gets suspended before a division game.

SLIPPERY SLOPE

you could argue that if no one steps in to punish Roethlisberger for his poor decisions and questionable--to say the least--treatment of women, he'll be on the slippery slope to "actually" raping someone and spending 25-to-life in jail.

Obviously its a new use of the "personal conduct policy" of the NFL, but it falls within the language of that policy. And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

This.

What's also unknown is what the NFL knows. They have their own security investigate incidents like these and it's probably a safe bet that they were a bit more meticulous than the Milledgeville authorities.

Yes, the NFL can handle the investigation better than the police force...that's so idiotic.

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And its not like this is the first "questionable" thing Big Ben has done.

So what? The only other "questionable" thing on his record is the previous rape allegation, which turned out to be completely false. And now we have this case, where Ben wasn't charged at all.

So what is he being punished for? Apparently you all think it's okay to discipline somebody based on lies and speculation.

The investigation turned up nothing, the charges were dropped, so the NFL should stay out of it. Ben hasn't had off the field issues before, so it's not like this is a recurring theme.

LOL the nfl should stay out of it!?! the nfl makes Rapelesburger Ben doesn't make the nfl

So at your job, you think it's OK to be punished for NOT being charged with a crime?

I think you miss the point

My job has rules that the local police don't care about

I can't bang a chick at work in the bathroom that would cost me my job but would I get arrested for that s**t no

That's not a good analogy.

You're out on the town with a girl, and she later claims that you raped her; after an investigation, you are not charged.

Do you feel you should be punished by your employer for that?

thats not a good analogy because nobody knows who the f**k I am
I'm not a super bowl winning QB
I don't have a code to live by from my employer when I'm off the clock
I didn't sing a f**king contract for millions of dollars that clearly says I will not be a douchebag

Ben does he was a douchebag and he will pay for it

again he's not being suspended for rape he's being suspended for being a douchebag

OK, so he can be suspended for violating the personal conduct policy. I'd be fine with that if the allegations were actually true.

All we have are two claims which turned out to be false (in a legal sense).

So basically, anyone can just say anything about any NFL player, and the player can get in trouble for it, whether it's true or not.

If I was in that bar, I could say that Ben punched me in the face on his way out. Is it true? Who knows, but the accusation was there, so the NFL will most likely suspend him for it. It's retarded.

WHAT

the nfl rule is simple

1. Don't be a douchebag
2. Don't make us look bad

did he get in trouble the first time no 2nd time your out no strike three in the nfl sorry

And I'd be okay with the suspension if there was PROOF of his douchebaggery.

Some false accusations from a couple gold-digging b***hes shouldn't warrant a suspension.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW?