Shawne Merriman may be available

Originally posted by dhp318:
If they'll take a Braylon Edwards type deal, I'll do it. Something like Haralson and a 4rd... I'm not incredibly high on Haralson myself.

I'd give them Arnaz Battle and a 4th round pick or a 3rd round pick straight up.

I just think Merriman doesn't want to be in San Diego anymore, I think he will feel right at home with Manusky and Vernon Davis by his side.

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:

Originally posted by crzy:
I don't see how extending Vernon, Willis, and signing Merriman to a long term deal is a problem.

We have millions in cap room.

People are really cheap with Jed's money. I don't get it.

Seriously. A change in scenery plus he will get to play against the cupcake tackles in the nfc west. If it were to happen I would be ecstatic.

isn't this guy kind of damaged goods, and where would he fit on our defense? To me it would be just another mouth for Singletary to shut up, let the Redskins overpay for him in the offseason

Originally posted by Icedawg316:
isn't this guy kind of damaged goods, and where would he fit on our defense? To me it would be just another mouth for Singletary to shut up, let the Redskins overpay for him in the offseason

are you suggesting he's a bad character guy? This couldn't be further from the truth. The guy may be the best leader SD has outside of Rivers. He's tough, extremely hard working, and has always been a team player. Never has there been a coaching issue with this guy. The arrest makes people think he's some kind of hoodlum, but the real story is that he restrained some dumb drunk chick who wanted to drive wasted. What was he supposed to do? Let her drive drunk??? This is as high character of a guy as you will find in this league.

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:

Originally posted by crzy:
I don't see how extending Vernon, Willis, and signing Merriman to a long term deal is a problem.

We have millions in cap room.

People are really cheap with Jed's money. I don't get it.

Well remember what happend to our last pro bowlers of Garcia and J. Peterson that we had. I dont want to see a catastrophy happen. It would be nice to have Shawne but at the same time I fear it could hurt us.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by dhp318:
If they'll take a Braylon Edwards type deal, I'll do it. Something like Haralson and a 4rd... I'm not incredibly high on Haralson myself.

I'd give them Arnaz Battle and a 4th round pick or a 3rd round pick straight up.

I just think Merriman doesn't want to be in San Diego anymore, I think he will feel right at home with Manusky and Vernon Davis by his side.

What is SD biggest postition needs?? We can always send them B. Sims and a 4th

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by NC49erfan82:

Originally posted by crzy:
A 2nd and 3rd rounder for Merriman would be an absolute STEAL for the 49ers.

I call "Lights Out" on this... The fact of the matter he is in his contract year so he will only play in less than 13-12 games depending on if and when we would trade on him. Then wasting a 2nd or 3rd would be a horrible move on our part for that bc we still would have to consider giving an exstension to Willis, Davis, or Merriman (being that his contract is up) would make a serious headache. My thing I dont think its worth it. Lawson and Haralson is playing better than Shawne is right now plus he has a nagging groin injury. Let the Redskins grab him then give him a 60 mill (35mill gaurenteed) contract and watch him to crumble down with the rest of the Skins organization.

2nd and 3rd round picks rarely amount to anything at all. The NFL Draft is overrated.

Thats the biggest crock of s**t I ever heared. Tell that to the Indianappolis Colts, New England Patriots, and ESPECIALLY the Pittsburgh Steelers. They will straight up laugh at this comment. Its funny how many of them are Super Bowl Champions the last decade as well. You can actually throw the Giants in there as well.

Originally posted by NC49erfan82:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by NC49erfan82:

Originally posted by crzy:
A 2nd and 3rd rounder for Merriman would be an absolute STEAL for the 49ers.

I call "Lights Out" on this... The fact of the matter he is in his contract year so he will only play in less than 13-12 games depending on if and when we would trade on him. Then wasting a 2nd or 3rd would be a horrible move on our part for that bc we still would have to consider giving an exstension to Willis, Davis, or Merriman (being that his contract is up) would make a serious headache. My thing I dont think its worth it. Lawson and Haralson is playing better than Shawne is right now plus he has a nagging groin injury. Let the Redskins grab him then give him a 60 mill (35mill gaurenteed) contract and watch him to crumble down with the rest of the Skins organization.

2nd and 3rd round picks rarely amount to anything at all. The NFL Draft is overrated.

Thats the biggest crock of s**t I ever heared. Tell that to the Indianappolis Colts, New England Patriots, and ESPECIALLY the Pittsburgh Steelers. They will straight up laugh at this comment. Its funny how many of them are Super Bowl Champions the last decade as well. You can actually throw the Giants in there as well.

exactly, it all depends on how well you can scout potential draft picks. If you have some dumbass scouting for you who has no idea what they are talking about then yes, your draft picks will amount to nothing.

Originally posted by NC49erfan82:

Originally posted by crzy:
A 2nd and 3rd rounder for Merriman would be an absolute STEAL for the 49ers.

I call "Lights Out" on this... The fact of the matter he is in his contract year so he will only play in less than 13-12 games depending on if and when we would trade on him. Then wasting a 2nd or 3rd would be a horrible move on our part for that bc we still would have to consider giving an exstension to Willis, Davis, or Merriman (being that his contract is up) would make a serious headache. My thing I dont think its worth it. Lawson and Haralson is playing better than Shawne is right now plus he has a nagging groin injury. Let the Redskins grab him then give him a 60 mill (35mill gaurenteed) contract and watch him to crumble down with the rest of the Skins organization.

why not Offer a 4th that can escalate to a 1st or 2nd based on Playing time and if we resign him or not

Originally posted by NC49erfan82:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by NC49erfan82:

Originally posted by crzy:
A 2nd and 3rd rounder for Merriman would be an absolute STEAL for the 49ers.

I call "Lights Out" on this... The fact of the matter he is in his contract year so he will only play in less than 13-12 games depending on if and when we would trade on him. Then wasting a 2nd or 3rd would be a horrible move on our part for that bc we still would have to consider giving an exstension to Willis, Davis, or Merriman (being that his contract is up) would make a serious headache. My thing I dont think its worth it. Lawson and Haralson is playing better than Shawne is right now plus he has a nagging groin injury. Let the Redskins grab him then give him a 60 mill (35mill gaurenteed) contract and watch him to crumble down with the rest of the Skins organization.

2nd and 3rd round picks rarely amount to anything at all. The NFL Draft is overrated.

Thats the biggest crock of s**t I ever heared. Tell that to the Indianappolis Colts, New England Patriots, and ESPECIALLY the Pittsburgh Steelers. They will straight up laugh at this comment. Its funny how many of them are Super Bowl Champions the last decade as well. You can actually throw the Giants in there as well.

Second and Third Round Picks

Indianapolis Colts: Bob Sanders, Mike Pollak, Phillip Wheeler, Tony Ugoh, Dante Hughes, Quinn Pitcock, Tim Jennings, Freedie Keiaho, Kelvin Hayden, Vincent Burns, Ben Harsock, Gilbert Garnder, Donald Strickland, Josheph Jefferson, Larry Tripplet, Mike Doss

New England Patriots: Matt Light, Deion Branch, Terrence Wheatley, Shawn Crable, Kevin O'Connoll, Chad Jackson, David Thomas, Marquise Hill, Guss Scott, Eugene Wilson, Bethel Johnson, Brock Williams, Adrian Klemm, JR Redmond

Pittsburgh Steelers: Max Starks, LaMarr Woodley, Bryant McFadden, Limas Sweed, Bruce Davis, Matt Spaeth, Anthony Smith, Willie Reid, Trai Essex, Ricardo Colclough, Alonzo Jackson

Yeah, these teams really built their championship teams because of their second and third round picks lol. Out of all the bolded "success" picks the only real impact player is Bob Sanders. The rest of the players who turned out to be semi-sold pro's are all replaceable.

Not trading for Shawn Merriman so that we can have a 1 out of 15 or 1 out of 20 chance of drafting an impact player who likely won't be HALF as good as Merriman.....is complete bulls**t.

The NFL Draft is overrated. Most draft picks never amount to anything. Trading draft picks for proven NFL players is a smart strategy.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by dhp318:
If they'll take a Braylon Edwards type deal, I'll do it. Something like Haralson and a 4rd... I'm not incredibly high on Haralson myself.

I'd give them Arnaz Battle and a 4th round pick or a 3rd round pick straight up.

I just think Merriman doesn't want to be in San Diego anymore, I think he will feel right at home with Manusky and Vernon Davis by his side.

I mean sure, I'd like to just give them Marques Harris and Dominique Ziegler for Merriman, but come on...

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by NC49erfan82:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by NC49erfan82:

Originally posted by crzy:
A 2nd and 3rd rounder for Merriman would be an absolute STEAL for the 49ers.

I call "Lights Out" on this... The fact of the matter he is in his contract year so he will only play in less than 13-12 games depending on if and when we would trade on him. Then wasting a 2nd or 3rd would be a horrible move on our part for that bc we still would have to consider giving an exstension to Willis, Davis, or Merriman (being that his contract is up) would make a serious headache. My thing I dont think its worth it. Lawson and Haralson is playing better than Shawne is right now plus he has a nagging groin injury. Let the Redskins grab him then give him a 60 mill (35mill gaurenteed) contract and watch him to crumble down with the rest of the Skins organization.

2nd and 3rd round picks rarely amount to anything at all. The NFL Draft is overrated.

Thats the biggest crock of s**t I ever heared. Tell that to the Indianappolis Colts, New England Patriots, and ESPECIALLY the Pittsburgh Steelers. They will straight up laugh at this comment. Its funny how many of them are Super Bowl Champions the last decade as well. You can actually throw the Giants in there as well.

Second and Third Round Picks

Indianapolis Colts: Bob Sanders, Mike Pollak, Phillip Wheeler, Tony Ugoh, Dante Hughes, Quinn Pitcock, Tim Jennings, Freedie Keiaho, Kelvin Hayden, Vincent Burns, Ben Harsock, Gilbert Garnder, Donald Strickland, Josheph Jefferson, Larry Tripplet, Mike Doss

New England Patriots: Matt Light, Deion Branch, Terrence Wheatley, Shawn Crable, Kevin O'Connoll, Chad Jackson, David Thomas, Marquise Hill, Guss Scott, Eugene Wilson, Bethel Johnson, Brock Williams, Adrian Klemm, JR Redmond

Pittsburgh Steelers: Max Starks, LaMarr Woodley, Bryant McFadden, Limas Sweed, Bruce Davis, Matt Spaeth, Anthony Smith, Willie Reid, Trai Essex, Ricardo Colclough, Alonzo Jackson

Yeah, these teams really built their championship teams because of their second and third round picks lol. Out of all the bolded "success" picks the only real impact player is Bob Sanders. The rest of the players who turned out to be semi-sold pro's are all replaceable.

Not trading for Shawn Merriman so that we can have a 1 out of 15 or 1 out of 20 chance of drafting an impact player who likely won't be HALF as good as Merriman.....is complete bulls**t.

The NFL Draft is overrated. Most draft picks never amount to anything. Trading draft picks for proven NFL players is a smart strategy.

except Merriman at this point in his career coming off major knee surgery and being invisible on the field is anything but a sure thing. Plus he'd cost more than 2nd and 3rd round picks.

Originally posted by dhp318:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by NC49erfan82:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by NC49erfan82:

Originally posted by crzy:
A 2nd and 3rd rounder for Merriman would be an absolute STEAL for the 49ers.

I call "Lights Out" on this... The fact of the matter he is in his contract year so he will only play in less than 13-12 games depending on if and when we would trade on him. Then wasting a 2nd or 3rd would be a horrible move on our part for that bc we still would have to consider giving an exstension to Willis, Davis, or Merriman (being that his contract is up) would make a serious headache. My thing I dont think its worth it. Lawson and Haralson is playing better than Shawne is right now plus he has a nagging groin injury. Let the Redskins grab him then give him a 60 mill (35mill gaurenteed) contract and watch him to crumble down with the rest of the Skins organization.

2nd and 3rd round picks rarely amount to anything at all. The NFL Draft is overrated.

Thats the biggest crock of s**t I ever heared. Tell that to the Indianappolis Colts, New England Patriots, and ESPECIALLY the Pittsburgh Steelers. They will straight up laugh at this comment. Its funny how many of them are Super Bowl Champions the last decade as well. You can actually throw the Giants in there as well.

Second and Third Round Picks

Indianapolis Colts: Bob Sanders, Mike Pollak, Phillip Wheeler, Tony Ugoh, Dante Hughes, Quinn Pitcock, Tim Jennings, Freedie Keiaho, Kelvin Hayden, Vincent Burns, Ben Harsock, Gilbert Garnder, Donald Strickland, Josheph Jefferson, Larry Tripplet, Mike Doss

New England Patriots: Matt Light, Deion Branch, Terrence Wheatley, Shawn Crable, Kevin O'Connoll, Chad Jackson, David Thomas, Marquise Hill, Guss Scott, Eugene Wilson, Bethel Johnson, Brock Williams, Adrian Klemm, JR Redmond

Pittsburgh Steelers: Max Starks, LaMarr Woodley, Bryant McFadden, Limas Sweed, Bruce Davis, Matt Spaeth, Anthony Smith, Willie Reid, Trai Essex, Ricardo Colclough, Alonzo Jackson

Yeah, these teams really built their championship teams because of their second and third round picks lol. Out of all the bolded "success" picks the only real impact player is Bob Sanders. The rest of the players who turned out to be semi-sold pro's are all replaceable.

Not trading for Shawn Merriman so that we can have a 1 out of 15 or 1 out of 20 chance of drafting an impact player who likely won't be HALF as good as Merriman.....is complete bulls**t.

The NFL Draft is overrated. Most draft picks never amount to anything. Trading draft picks for proven NFL players is a smart strategy.

except Merriman at this point in his career coming off major knee surgery and being invisible on the field is anything but a sure thing. Plus he'd cost more than 2nd and 3rd round picks.

He's 25. And the type of injury that he had typically takes a couple seasons before he can get back to full strength. And he fill a great need on this team.

With all that being said, I wouldn't trade more than a 2nd and a 3rd for him.

You guys realize that most of the NFL's rosters are populated by non-first rounders (many of which btw are big time busts), right?

In fact a surprisingly large number of stars in the NFL weren't first rounders:

Just three current stars I can think off the tops of my head:
Tom Brady - 6th
Terrell Owens - 3rd
Frank Gore - 3rd

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by dhp318:
If they'll take a Braylon Edwards type deal, I'll do it. Something like Haralson and a 4rd... I'm not incredibly high on Haralson myself.

I'd give them Arnaz Battle and a 4th round pick or a 3rd round pick straight up.

I just think Merriman doesn't want to be in San Diego anymore, I think he will feel right at home with Manusky and Vernon Davis by his side.

Is he worth that to us? I would say Battle and a 4th but not a 3rd.