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Emmanuel McNeil-Warren / Toledo / S

The Senior Bowl offers players an opportunity to showcase their skills for NFL teams and improve their draft stock. It can also expose weaknesses, which is often the reason some players back out of the event.

Such was the case of Toledo safety Emmanuel McNeil-Warren, or so I was told at the Shrine Bowl.

Toledo had three defensive backs scheduled to participate in the Shrine Bowl (2) and Senior Bowl (1). The conversation in Frisco with people from the Toledo program eventually turned to safety Emmanuel McNeil-Warren, projected by some as a top 45 selection.

People from Toledo told me point blank McNeil-Warren pulled out of the Senior Bowl because he was concerned about his lack of speed, which would be exposed during drills.


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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
The Senior Bowl offers players an opportunity to showcase their skills for NFL teams and improve their draft stock. It can also expose weaknesses, which is often the reason some players back out of the event.

Such was the case of Toledo safety Emmanuel McNeil-Warren, or so I was told at the Shrine Bowl.

Toledo had three defensive backs scheduled to participate in the Shrine Bowl (2) and Senior Bowl (1). The conversation in Frisco with people from the Toledo program eventually turned to safety Emmanuel McNeil-Warren, projected by some as a top 45 selection.

People from Toledo told me point blank McNeil-Warren pulled out of the Senior Bowl because he was concerned about his lack of speed, which would be exposed during drills.



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Players decline the Senior Bowl and Combine all the time, I'm not worried.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Players decline the Senior Bowl and Combine all the time, I'm not worried.

Not dudes from Toledo. There's guys in the Hula and Shrine Bowl every year that would kill for a slot in the Senior Bowl to show what they can do against the best competition.

If the report that's out there is accurate then its not a great look. The Senior Bowl is a tremendous opportunity to boost your draft stock, not competing because you believe it might expose you....
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Players decline the Senior Bowl and Combine all the time, I'm not worried.

Not dudes from Toledo. There's guys in the Hula and Shrine Bowl every year that would kill for a slot in the Senior Bowl to show what they can do against the best competition.

If the report that's out there is accurate then its not a great look. The Senior Bowl is a tremendous opportunity to boost your draft stock, not competing because you believe it might expose you....

Honestly, Derrick Moore losing his cool is more worrisome than McNeil-Warren dropping out of the Senior Bowl. That's just my opinion though.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Players decline the Senior Bowl and Combine all the time, I'm not worried.

Not dudes from Toledo. There's guys in the Hula and Shrine Bowl every year that would kill for a slot in the Senior Bowl to show what they can do against the best competition.

If the report that's out there is accurate then its not a great look. The Senior Bowl is a tremendous opportunity to boost your draft stock, not competing because you believe it might expose you....

Honestly, Derrick Moore losing his cool is more worrisome than McNeil-Warren dropping out of the Senior Bowl. That's just my opinion though.

It's concerning to me but we also don't know the reason he pulled out. I find it hard to believe he's concerned about his tape…his speed doesn't see to be an issue on tape.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Players decline the Senior Bowl and Combine all the time, I'm not worried.

Not dudes from Toledo. There's guys in the Hula and Shrine Bowl every year that would kill for a slot in the Senior Bowl to show what they can do against the best competition.

If the report that's out there is accurate then its not a great look. The Senior Bowl is a tremendous opportunity to boost your draft stock, not competing because you believe it might expose you....

Honestly, Derrick Moore losing his cool is more worrisome than McNeil-Warren dropping out of the Senior Bowl. That's just my opinion though.

It's concerning to me but we also don't know the reason he pulled out. I find it hard to believe he's concerned about his tape…his speed doesn't see to be an issue on tape.

The tape isn't easy to evaluate. The best athlete will always look fast against sup-bar competition. And Toledo isn't exactly a powerhouse program going up against great teams. Sure, you can find studs at those types of schools (like Mitchell). But, for me, it makes the evaluation that much harder.
Originally posted by BYisGod:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Players decline the Senior Bowl and Combine all the time, I'm not worried.

Not dudes from Toledo. There's guys in the Hula and Shrine Bowl every year that would kill for a slot in the Senior Bowl to show what they can do against the best competition.

If the report that's out there is accurate then its not a great look. The Senior Bowl is a tremendous opportunity to boost your draft stock, not competing because you believe it might expose you....

Honestly, Derrick Moore losing his cool is more worrisome than McNeil-Warren dropping out of the Senior Bowl. That's just my opinion though.

It's concerning to me but we also don't know the reason he pulled out. I find it hard to believe he's concerned about his tape…his speed doesn't see to be an issue on tape.

The tape isn't easy to evaluate. The best athlete will always look fast against sup-bar competition. And Toledo isn't exactly a powerhouse program going up against great teams. Sure, you can find studs at those types of schools (like Mitchell). But, for me, it makes the evaluation that much harder.

Agree. We've seen it firsthand with Trey. Clearly we thought he was faster than he ended up being.

We'll see if EMW avoids working out at the combine. That would concern me more…tho seems like more guys are starting to do that which is really frustrating when you're trying to evaluate based on other players with similar test scores.

My guess if anything his agents told him it's safer for him to skip so he doesn't get paired up with the super quick slot type guys who he would struggle with in 1 on 1s. He definitely seems a better player baiting the QB, playing zone and making plays with his length.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Love the tape. Just hate the herniated vagina he suffered Senior Bowl week
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Love the tape. Just hate the herniated vagina he suffered Senior Bowl week

I have the same injury, they said Viagra would work and it didn't. So I also bought a Pee Pee pump, pray for me.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Love the tape. Just hate the herniated vagina he suffered Senior Bowl week

Tape is way more important
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Love the tape. Just hate the herniated vagina he suffered Senior Bowl week

Tape is way more important

Do you think tape will fix it? I would think ice and rehab at minimum, maybe even surgery.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Love the tape. Just hate the herniated vagina he suffered Senior Bowl week

I have the same injury, they said Viagra would work and it didn't. So I also bought a Pee Pee pump, pray for me.

I didn't know Viagra works for a vagina that apparently you have

Originally posted by genus49:
Do you think tape will fix it? I would think ice and rehab at minimum, maybe even surgery.

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