Shemar Stewart 6'6 290lbs Freak

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by GORO:
I would like to know what Kris Kocurek thinks of him? Would he stand on the table for him, despite low sack numbers?

Freaks with little production rarely pan out last one that did that I can think of is DK Metcalf. Hes really young just turned 21 a few months ago so there's room to develop. I really like what I see but we're not really in a position to gamble

Ziggy and Hunter both were freaks that had little production in college.

Definitely not the norm. Dude is the ideal DE for this scheme though.

I can absolutely see us targeting Shemar or Mykel Williams at 11 and a DT in round 2.

I do think through that Williams will be the better pro. Brian Baldinger did a segment on him and was super impressed. Williams reminds me of Travon Walker. Big and athletic. Crazy long arms. Able to set the edge vs the run. And Walker had back to back years with 10 sacks.

Stewart is the type of player that keeps GMs awake at night. He's hard to pass up because of his physical tools but he also has a good chance of being a bust because his tools don't translate to on field play. Maybe a different coach can bring it out of him but the 49ers can't afford another bust in the 1st round. Maybe take him n the 2nd if he's there.

Originally posted by est1985:
Have the 49ers had a meeting with him? I feel like if they love his attitude he might be the pick

If they're smart he won't be.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
I can absolutely see us targeting Shemar or Mykel Williams at 11 and a DT in round 2.

I do think through that Williams will be the better pro. Brian Baldinger did a segment on him and was super impressed. Williams reminds me of Travon Walker. Big and athletic. Crazy long arms. Able to set the edge vs the run. And Walker had back to back years with 10 sacks.

Williams isn't the athlete that Walker was.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Stewart is the type of player that keeps GMs awake at night. He's hard to pass up because of his physical tools but he also has a good chance of being a bust because his tools don't translate to on field play. Maybe a different coach can bring it out of him but the 49ers can't afford another bust in the 1st round. Maybe take him n the 2nd if he's there.

Really just comes down to if he's coachable and you have the coaches to make it work.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Stewart is the type of player that keeps GMs awake at night. He's hard to pass up because of his physical tools but he also has a good chance of being a bust because his tools don't translate to on field play. Maybe a different coach can bring it out of him but the 49ers can't afford another bust in the 1st round. Maybe take him n the 2nd if he's there.

Really just comes down to if he's coachable and you have the coaches to make it work.

I guess that's the case with a lot of players coming out of college. Some can't handle the tougher competition. others can't handle the money. It's one of the things you can't test for at the combine. Interviews can help but I know from experience that some people interview well but are bad workers. It's why so many picks fail no matter how much you scout them and look at game film. Same way that con men and drug addicts develop the ability to fool people.

Another thing I've noticed is his change of direction while in pursuit is remarkable for a man his size. Would like to see more pass rush moves, what he's shown looks good but 80% of the time his attitude is I'm bigger stronger and I'm coming right at you

At worst, I think Stewart becomes a dominant run defender and mediocre pass rusher. He's a tough, physical dude that plays with max effort that is going to force the ball inside, run to the ball and help compress the pocket. Maybe he doesn't end up realizing his potential as a pass rusher, but he's got the type of physical gifts with intangible qualities that are conducive to long careers in the NFL.

Originally posted by Heroism:
At worst, I think Stewart becomes a dominant run defender and mediocre pass rusher. He's a tough, physical dude that plays with max effort that is going to force the ball inside, run to the ball and help compress the pocket. Maybe he doesn't end up realizing his potential as a pass rusher, but he's got the type of physical gifts with intangible qualities that are conducive to long careers in the NFL.

Is that worth our first pick at 11 for you?

That sounds like Thomas and Kinlaw again, except at end

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Is that worth our first pick at 11 for you?

That sounds like Thomas and Kinlaw again, except at end

I wouldn't. Too risky for me.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Heroism:
At worst, I think Stewart becomes a dominant run defender and mediocre pass rusher. He's a tough, physical dude that plays with max effort that is going to force the ball inside, run to the ball and help compress the pocket. Maybe he doesn't end up realizing his potential as a pass rusher, but he's got the type of physical gifts with intangible qualities that are conducive to long careers in the NFL.

Is that worth our first pick at 11 for you?

That sounds like Thomas and Kinlaw again, except at end

I'm trying not to let the potential let me get all starry eyed, think #11 is high but honestly I don't see him sliding to the 20s. To hero's point he's a great run defender even if he isn't getting to the qb, makes it easier to pull the trigger but you want more than just a run stopping DE at #11 especially when we have Bosa.

Let's say Graham, Membou, Carter are off the board and you have Arik Armstead on the board you take him at #11? He's had a long solid career with multiple pro bowl appearances but he never was a great pass rusher..

Originally posted by Heroism:
At worst, I think Stewart becomes a dominant run defender and mediocre pass rusher. He's a tough, physical dude that plays with max effort that is going to force the ball inside, run to the ball and help compress the pocket. Maybe he doesn't end up realizing his potential as a pass rusher, but he's got the type of physical gifts with intangible qualities that are conducive to long careers in the NFL.

I don't think he sheds blocks well enough to be a dominant run defender. It could be taught, but for me it adds to the risk.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Heroism:
At worst, I think Stewart becomes a dominant run defender and mediocre pass rusher. He's a tough, physical dude that plays with max effort that is going to force the ball inside, run to the ball and help compress the pocket. Maybe he doesn't end up realizing his potential as a pass rusher, but he's got the type of physical gifts with intangible qualities that are conducive to long careers in the NFL.

I don't think he sheds blocks well enough to be a dominant run defender. It could be taught, but for me it adds to the risk.

It does look like he drags offensive lineman with him in pursuit while pushing them back, his block shed could be better but it's not bad he flashes some hand work which also could use coaching

Originally posted by Since07:
I'm trying not to let the potential let me get all starry eyed, think #11 is high but honestly I don't see him sliding to the 20s. To hero's point he's a great run defender even if he isn't getting to the qb, makes it easier to pull the trigger but you want more than just a run stopping DE at #11 especially when we have Bosa.

Let's say Graham, Membou, Carter are off the board and you have Arik Armstead on the board you take him at #11? He's had a long solid career with multiple pro bowl appearances but he never was a great pass rusher..

Information straight from "the Huddle Report", I realize it's just one article so take it for what you will.
"He came into the Senior Bowl weighing 281 lbs and 3½ weeks later at the combine, weighed in at 267 lbs. That's almost 5 lbs a week. Shemar then ran a 4.59 in his 40, 1.58, 10-yard split, 40 Vertical, and 10'11" broad jump. Shemar could not finish the rest of the drills because of a tweaked hamstring after running his 40. Now you would think that with all of those athletic talents, Shemar would be considered as a top-ten pick in this draft. Here is the big problem, Shemar's college three-year, career stats are; 2022, 11 solo tackles-1.5 sacks, 2023, 5 solo tackles and 1.5 sacks, 2024, 14 solo tackles and you guessed it...1.5 sacks. So, let's add this up, he loses 14 lbs in 3 weeks, tweaks his hamstring, and has a total of, 30 solo tackles and 3.5 sacks...in 3 years of college football. Picture yourself as a scout or GM of a team, and tell me that you have the biggest set of balls to suggest that this Child should be selected in the 1st round of this draft. I watched Shemar on film and he has poor footwork."

also to counter that discussion from " nfldraftbuzz"
While Stewart's career sack production (4.5 total with exactly 1.5 in each season) doesn't tell the complete story, his impact runs deeper than the stat sheet suggests. His presence was felt in 2024 particularly, where he racked up 39 total pressures over 315 pass-rushing snaps according to PFF, showcasing the disruptive potential that has NFL scouts drooling after his historic combine performance in Indianapolis.

For me, I needed to clearly see more demonstrated and consistent production overall during college playing seasons to pick him at # 11. I do not see it. I'll pass. Not saying he won't be good but he's not a safe enough pick.