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Apr 15, 2025 at 10:42 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Go listen to Nate Trice explain Barron and his role at the next level. He's similar to Brian Branch. Lots of analysis have said the same.

Can he be put outside, yes. Is that remotely close to his best spot, no…If you want the best out of him it's in a NCB/S role, Not as a boundary corner.

Hell he's even said his best spot is NCB

I can find just as many that disagree
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Apr 15, 2025 at 11:13 PM
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I completely disagree that it isn't remotely close to his best spot. Barron can 100% play outside, I do agree that he is probably best outside, but I also disagree that we have an elite NCB, Lenoir only did it because we had no one else, they'd clearly like to leave him outside. Barron could easily allow us to do that.

#11 is a bit rich though and I don't like that he'll be 24 when the season starts. I could get on board, but ultimately I don't think he's the choice.

The more I watch of Harmon the more I'd be very happy if we drafted him. He's shooting up my board.

This is the other part of it. I think we'd have 3 guys that could play inside/outside.

As for his age. All it means is he gets one contract extension instead of two. We"d theoretically get him for 7-8 years. With his ability to play safety that's already a built-in fail safe for his age.
Apr 15, 2025 at 11:26 PM
everyone has this guy going 2nd round

49er beat writers:
"this is the guy at 11"

why do we have the worst beat writers?
shouldn't we have intelligent sports journalists in SF covering the 49ers?

we have ZERO
and it's been the same f**king idiots for the past 10-15-20 years
[ Edited by DoseOfBosa on Apr 15, 2025 at 11:26 PM ]
Apr 16, 2025 at 3:59 AM

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I completely disagree that it isn't remotely close to his best spot. Barron can 100% play outside, I do agree that he is probably best outside, but I also disagree that we have an elite NCB, Lenoir only did it because we had no one else, they'd clearly like to leave him outside. Barron could easily allow us to do that.

#11 is a bit rich though and I don't like that he'll be 24 when the season starts. I could get on board, but ultimately I don't think he's the choice.

The more I watch of Harmon the more I'd be very happy if we drafted him. He's shooting up my board.

I don't know i'm going with my man Eric Crocker who does scouting and has played DB in the NFL. He says Barron's best fit is nickel and he looked like a 3rd round prospect to him. He does have versatility but most of his outside snaps were in zone coverage. He's a good prospect but definitely not at 11.

Dane Brugler has him as is #30 prospect. In his report he says teams view him as a nickel but also adds they like his versatility.
Apr 16, 2025 at 4:20 AM
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Go listen to Nate Trice explain Barron and his role at the next level. He's similar to Brian Branch. Lots of analysis have said the same.

Can he be put outside, yes. Is that remotely close to his best spot, no…If you want the best out of him it's in a NCB/S role, Not as a boundary corner.

Hell he's even said his best spot is NCB

I can find just as many that disagree

I can't. Even our resident DB mind Eric Crocker says he's at his best in that NCB slash hybrid S role. He wouldn't be taking him top 11 if the plan is to play him outside mostly. We already have a really good NCB who's makes a s**t ton of money.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 16, 2025 at 4:31 AM ]
Apr 16, 2025 at 4:30 AM
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I completely disagree that it isn't remotely close to his best spot. Barron can 100% play outside, I do agree that he is probably best outside, but I also disagree that we have an elite NCB, Lenoir only did it because we had no one else, they'd clearly like to leave him outside. Barron could easily allow us to do that.

#11 is a bit rich though and I don't like that he'll be 24 when the season starts. I could get on board, but ultimately I don't think he's the choice.

The more I watch of Harmon the more I'd be very happy if we drafted him. He's shooting up my board.

this is a great listen on CBs/LBers. I think Barron is probably the best DB in the class. I think like a lot of players they have positions they're better at.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/football-301/id1757723241?i=1000701648382
Apr 16, 2025 at 5:36 AM
Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
everyone has this guy going 2nd round

49er beat writers:
"this is the guy at 11"

why do we have the worst beat writers?
shouldn't we have intelligent sports journalists in SF covering the 49ers?

we have ZERO
and it's been the same f**king idiots for the past 10-15-20 years

PFF now has him as the 8th best prospect on their rankings.
Apr 16, 2025 at 6:00 AM
Originally posted by Scraptastic:
Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
everyone has this guy going 2nd round

49er beat writers:
"this is the guy at 11"

why do we have the worst beat writers?
shouldn't we have intelligent sports journalists in SF covering the 49ers?

we have ZERO
and it's been the same f**king idiots for the past 10-15-20 years

PFF now has him as the 8th best prospect on their rankings.

zierlein has him with the 6th highest grade in this yrs draft, only reason he's being mocked later is because of character issues
Apr 16, 2025 at 7:58 AM
damn, ol boy was looking like he was ready to quit again. I always thought this dude had sketchy effort at times. It all makes sense now.

[ Edited by Heroism on Apr 16, 2025 at 8:00 AM ]
Apr 16, 2025 at 8:27 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I completely disagree that it isn't remotely close to his best spot. Barron can 100% play outside, I do agree that he is probably best outside, but I also disagree that we have an elite NCB, Lenoir only did it because we had no one else, they'd clearly like to leave him outside. Barron could easily allow us to do that.

#11 is a bit rich though and I don't like that he'll be 24 when the season starts. I could get on board, but ultimately I don't think he's the choice.

The more I watch of Harmon the more I'd be very happy if we drafted him. He's shooting up my board.

this is a great listen on CBs/LBers. I think Barron is probably the best DB in the class. I think like a lot of players they have positions they're better at.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/football-301/id1757723241?i=1000701648382

Yeah, was a good listen, liked the Schwessinger stuff, will go and watch the Iowa game.
Apr 16, 2025 at 8:40 AM
I might prefer Grant over Nolan because of the issue surrounding Nolan. Grant has the size that the Niners are lacking in the middle of the line. That's assuming that someone doesn't slip down. Of course then you have to be concerned about why they slipped down.
Apr 16, 2025 at 9:16 AM
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Originally posted by Heroism:
damn, ol boy was looking like he was ready to quit again. I always thought this dude had sketchy effort at times. It all makes sense now.


It just looks like he was upset he got beat.
Apr 17, 2025 at 7:15 AM
Originally posted by Heroism:
damn, ol boy was looking like he was ready to quit again. I always thought this dude had sketchy effort at times. It all makes sense now.


Dude out of shape? Sick? That's no buneo
Apr 17, 2025 at 7:16 AM
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I completely disagree that it isn't remotely close to his best spot. Barron can 100% play outside, I do agree that he is probably best outside, but I also disagree that we have an elite NCB, Lenoir only did it because we had no one else, they'd clearly like to leave him outside. Barron could easily allow us to do that.

#11 is a bit rich though and I don't like that he'll be 24 when the season starts. I could get on board, but ultimately I don't think he's the choice.

The more I watch of Harmon the more I'd be very happy if we drafted him. He's shooting up my board.

this is a great listen on CBs/LBers. I think Barron is probably the best DB in the class. I think like a lot of players they have positions they're better at.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/football-301/id1757723241?i=1000701648382

Yeah, was a good listen, liked the Schwessinger stuff, will go and watch the Iowa game.

I recommend his 301 pods with all the prospects groupings. Good stuff
Apr 17, 2025 at 8:03 AM
Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
everyone has this guy going 2nd round

49er beat writers:
"this is the guy at 11"

why do we have the worst beat writers?
shouldn't we have intelligent sports journalists in SF covering the 49ers?

we have ZERO
and it's been the same f**king idiots for the past 10-15-20 years

There are many times actual NFL draft boards differ greatly from the media.

I've seen a bunch of people have Nolen rated very highly. I saw a tweet the other day where one guy had him graded as DL1...he actually had Graham as IDL3 behind Nolen and Harmon.

Found the tweet


You can of course question the scouting ability by this guy but the point is...it all depends on the POV.

Also our beat writers may get info from OUR team that national guys don't get.
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