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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Miami TE Elijah Arroyo Not Working Out At Combine Due To Knee Injury

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Miami TE Elijah Arroyo is not participating in the NFL Scouting Combine this week due to a knee injury suffered at the Senior Bowl.

They said he should be fine for pro day
Originally posted by NYniner85:

6' 225 runs in the 4.3 range.
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

6' 225 runs in the 4.3 range.

So another Isaac guerendo?
Originally posted by NYniner85:

That's pretty rangy. But we don't need a CB. At least at #11.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

That's pretty rangy. But we don't need a CB. At least at #11.

If he is best player available. And yes you always need a potential all pro corner.
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

That's pretty rangy. But we don't need a CB. At least at #11.

If he is best player available. And yes you always need a potential all pro corner.
Exactly Johnson is a no brainer at #11 unless they invest in a starting CB in free agency.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

That's pretty rangy. But we don't need a CB. At least at #11.

If he is best player available. And yes you always need a potential all pro corner.
Exactly Johnson is a no brainer at #11 unless they invest in a starting CB in free agency.

You don't build a powerhouse on the backend. A powerhouse is built in the TRENCHES. It's why the Eagles and Lions are good. They build both sides of the lines. At almost 6'2" ish if he runs fast and is as good as they say he has a big chance to go before #11 anyway. Probably won't be there when we pick. But if he was and he's the best I understand the point of it. Just we still need to rebuild these lines on both sides. Especially interior defensive line and OT, OG, C on offense.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

That's pretty rangy. But we don't need a CB. At least at #11.

If he is best player available. And yes you always need a potential all pro corner.
Exactly Johnson is a no brainer at #11 unless they invest in a starting CB in free agency.

You don't build a powerhouse on the backend. A powerhouse is built in the TRENCHES. It's why the Eagles and Lions are good. They build both sides of the lines. At almost 6'2" ish if he runs fast and is as good as they say he has a big chance to go before #11 anyway. Probably won't be there when we pick. But if he was and he's the best I understand the point of it. Just we still need to rebuild these lines on both sides. Especially interior defensive line and OT, OG, C on offense.

I think it's hilarious that you've been harping on this TRENCHES are the only way thing.

Every starter but one(Beckton was added after Kelce retired and Jurgens moved from G to C) on that Eagles OL and DL was on the roster the year prior when they had one of the worst team collapses.

What took them over the top was ironically drafting Mitchell AND DeJean and bringing in Vic Fangio.

Lions went one and done in the playoffs but also drafted back to back DBs.....so tell us more how we should be more like those teams.
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Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

6' 225 runs in the 4.3 range.

So another Isaac guerendo?

I like him much more than Isaac Guerendo.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

That's pretty rangy. But we don't need a CB. At least at #11.

If he is best player available. And yes you always need a potential all pro corner.
Exactly Johnson is a no brainer at #11 unless they invest in a starting CB in free agency.

You don't build a powerhouse on the backend. A powerhouse is built in the TRENCHES. It's why the Eagles and Lions are good. They build both sides of the lines. At almost 6'2" ish if he runs fast and is as good as they say he has a big chance to go before #11 anyway. Probably won't be there when we pick. But if he was and he's the best I understand the point of it. Just we still need to rebuild these lines on both sides. Especially interior defensive line and OT, OG, C on offense.

I think it's hilarious that you've been harping on this TRENCHES are the only way thing.

Every starter but one(Beckton was added after Kelce retired and Jurgens moved from G to C) on that Eagles OL and DL was on the roster the year prior when they had one of the worst team collapses.

What took them over the top was ironically drafting Mitchell AND DeJean and bringing in Vic Fangio.

Lions went one and done in the playoffs but also drafted back to back DBs.....so tell us more how we should be more like those teams.

Lions had big injuries so you have to account for that. You want to talk about DeJean and I like him. He's good. But the Eagles TRENCHES were built in PRIOR years. Before that draft year. Then came of age and then they are the Champions. Guys like Sewell and Hutch (injured - but a great player) are studs on the Lions and changed what they are. So you can't look at it as just 1 year. In particular look up 2020 - 2024 for the Eagles drafts. Lots of TRENCHES and great ones in there. In particular prior to the DeJean year. Is DeJean good? Yeah I like him. But they built the TRENCHES prior to that. Then brought in some secondary guys to put icing on the cake.

A strong team is built up the MIDDLE. Buckner and Armstead. We haven't been the same since we lost them. In fact we get gashed right up the middle running. Stubblefield and Bryant Young from a previous era. Build up the middle has some advantages. It's bully ball.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

That's pretty rangy. But we don't need a CB. At least at #11.

If he is best player available. And yes you always need a potential all pro corner.
Exactly Johnson is a no brainer at #11 unless they invest in a starting CB in free agency.

You don't build a powerhouse on the backend. A powerhouse is built in the TRENCHES. It's why the Eagles and Lions are good. They build both sides of the lines. At almost 6'2" ish if he runs fast and is as good as they say he has a big chance to go before #11 anyway. Probably won't be there when we pick. But if he was and he's the best I understand the point of it. Just we still need to rebuild these lines on both sides. Especially interior defensive line and OT, OG, C on offense.
And you don't force picks out of need either there's plenty of picks and players throughout the draft that allows you to build the trenches.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That's pretty rangy. But we don't need a CB. At least at #11.

We have one legit starting corner in Lenoir. Green played well but do we want to make him a full time starter? After that we have Darrell Luter who was benched and practice squad Tre Avery. That's it.

CB is a huge need. We have no depth and are missing 1, if not two starters depending on Green.

I'm not sure which is a bigger need, CB or LB.

WILL- Tatum Bethune
MIKE- Fred Warner / DaShaun White
SAM- Dee Winters / Jalen Graham
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