2025 Draft Prospect Watch List and Discussion

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The rteason most teams run so many quick pass plays is because of the pressure. The general rule isthe QB has 3-5 seconds to find the receiver and get rid of the ball. If receivers have enough time they eventually will get open. That's why QBs like Mahomes and Russell Wilson in his early days were so dangerous. They would scramble around and wait for a guy to get open. Even the best DBs can only cover one guy at a time. Most teams typically have at least 3 receivers on passing plays.

5 seconds? Only in the pro bowl

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
They are absolutely not taking a corner high this year. No chance.

Crossing my fingers they can do well drafting the trenches this year that CB becomes an option for 26 in the first.

I'm a big fan of Cobee Bryant at CB on day 2/3

Originally posted by krizay:
Well sure if you phrase it this way. You are giving your DL consistent pressure. Which I admitted in my post that is the only way a great DL could match good coverage. It would have to be consistent. Not as easy to do as you make it sound. CBs also don't have to cover for more than 3+ seconds that often. In fact, what you need is corners who can cover for 3 seconds. That will help your DL get to the QB. If you have so-so guys playing 8-10 yards what good is that pressure?

I completely understand the frustration with guys playing 8-10 off, it's why I want a legit press man CB. That's something Johnson and Barron aren't exactly known for.

I get both ends helping each other to make it all work. I think whatever scheme you run the most, will determine how much you value CBs as well.

SF clearly depends on their DL to get upfield in a hurry to get pressure. It's the bloodline of their defense. Not really the CB play. I fully expect them to attack this draft looking at DL more than anything else. Most likely on all 3 days of the draft.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The rteason most teams run so many quick pass plays is because of the pressure. The general rule isthe QB has 3-5 seconds to find the receiver and get rid of the ball. If receivers have enough time they eventually will get open. That's why QBs like Mahomes and Russell Wilson in his early days were so dangerous. They would scramble around and wait for a guy to get open. Even the best DBs can only cover one guy at a time. Most teams typically have at least 3 receivers on passing plays.

5 seconds? Only in the pro bowl

I said 3-5. Five would be a long time but it happens when teams are in a prevent. Certainly when the QB starts scrambling. Ideally it's 3 seconds or less.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'm a big fan of Cobee Bryant at CB on day 2/3

He would make sense.

8 drafts and never a db drafted above the 64th pick. It's what it is at this point. Too many needs this year to think they will change.

Man I reading that SF had literally everyone at that Oregon pro-day. Like an unprecedented amount of higher end personnel guys there.


Derrick Harmon 👀

dude fits the mold of what we love at DT. I feel like 11 would be a reach BUT in a trade down I would be good with it.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Man I reading that SF had literally everyone at that Oregon pro-day. Like an unprecedented amount of higher end personnel guys there.

Not just scouts, they have GM, VP, Director of Player Personnel, Director of Scouting, Pro Personnel Scout, Asst. Director of Player Personnel, They are stacked https://t.co/iMTav45GhC

— Draft Diamonds ™? (@DraftDiamonds) March 18, 2025

Derrick Harmon 👀

dude fits the mold of what we love at DT. I feel like 11 would be a reach BUT in a trade down I would be good with it.

The other DT seems like he'd be a great fit as well

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Man I reading that SF had literally everyone at that Oregon pro-day. Like an unprecedented amount of higher end personnel guys there.

Not just scouts, they have GM, VP, Director of Player Personnel, Director of Scouting, Pro Personnel Scout, Asst. Director of Player Personnel, They are stacked https://t.co/iMTav45GhC

— Draft Diamonds ™? (@DraftDiamonds) March 18, 2025

Derrick Harmon 👀

dude fits the mold of what we love at DT. I feel like 11 would be a reach BUT in a trade down I would be good with it.

The other DT seems like he'd be a great fit as well

Like I said...there are multiple players I'd love to grab from that squad.

Harmon, Conerly, Burch, Bassa, Caldwell - give me all 5 of them and we're a MUCH better team for it.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Man I reading that SF had literally everyone at that Oregon pro-day. Like an unprecedented amount of higher end personnel guys there.

Not just scouts, they have GM, VP, Director of Player Personnel, Director of Scouting, Pro Personnel Scout, Asst. Director of Player Personnel, They are stacked https://t.co/iMTav45GhC

— Draft Diamonds ™? (@DraftDiamonds) March 18, 2025

Derrick Harmon 👀

dude fits the mold of what we love at DT. I feel like 11 would be a reach BUT in a trade down I would be good with it.

The other DT seems like he'd be a great fit as well

Like I said...there are multiple players I'd love to grab from that squad.

Harmon, Conerly, Burch, Bassa, Caldwell - give me all 5 of them and we're a MUCH better team for it.

With all the Membou take i kind of forgot about Cornerly

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Man I reading that SF had literally everyone at that Oregon pro-day. Like an unprecedented amount of higher end personnel guys there.

Not just scouts, they have GM, VP, Director of Player Personnel, Director of Scouting, Pro Personnel Scout, Asst. Director of Player Personnel, They are stacked https://t.co/iMTav45GhC

— Draft Diamonds ™? (@DraftDiamonds) March 18, 2025

Derrick Harmon 👀

dude fits the mold of what we love at DT. I feel like 11 would be a reach BUT in a trade down I would be good with it.

The other DT seems like he'd be a great fit as well

Like I said...there are multiple players I'd love to grab from that squad.

Harmon, Conerly, Burch, Bassa, Caldwell - give me all 5 of them and we're a MUCH better team for it.

With all the Membou take i kind of forgot about Cornerly

I'd be fine with Conerly on day 2. He's got some great movement skills. I think he lacks in his anchor and can get thrown around. He has a tendency to overset because of that lack of anchor (strength) which can get him into trouble. We saw it just in that one rep vs Green at the SB.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Man I reading that SF had literally everyone at that Oregon pro-day. Like an unprecedented amount of higher end personnel guys there.

Not just scouts, they have GM, VP, Director of Player Personnel, Director of Scouting, Pro Personnel Scout, Asst. Director of Player Personnel, They are stacked https://t.co/iMTav45GhC

— Draft Diamonds ™? (@DraftDiamonds) March 18, 2025

Derrick Harmon 👀

dude fits the mold of what we love at DT. I feel like 11 would be a reach BUT in a trade down I would be good with it.

The other DT seems like he'd be a great fit as well

Like I said...there are multiple players I'd love to grab from that squad.

Harmon, Conerly, Burch, Bassa, Caldwell - give me all 5 of them and we're a MUCH better team for it.

With all the Membou take i kind of forgot about Cornerly

It's only an hour flight from Santa Clara. Easier and cheaper for everyone to get there. They wouldn't even need to stay overnight.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Man I reading that SF had literally everyone at that Oregon pro-day. Like an unprecedented amount of higher end personnel guys there.

Not just scouts, they have GM, VP, Director of Player Personnel, Director of Scouting, Pro Personnel Scout, Asst. Director of Player Personnel, They are stacked https://t.co/iMTav45GhC

— Draft Diamonds ™? (@DraftDiamonds) March 18, 2025

Derrick Harmon 👀

dude fits the mold of what we love at DT. I feel like 11 would be a reach BUT in a trade down I would be good with it.

The other DT seems like he'd be a great fit as well

Like I said...there are multiple players I'd love to grab from that squad.

Harmon, Conerly, Burch, Bassa, Caldwell - give me all 5 of them and we're a MUCH better team for it.

With all the Membou take i kind of forgot about Cornerly

And Jabbar Muhammad, Jordan Burch, Terrance Ferguson

I think Bassa and Ferguson are two guys that the 49ers will have substantial interest in. Both fit the profiles of what they look for at those positions.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I think Bassa and Ferguson are two guys that the 49ers will have substantial interest in. Both fit the profiles of what they look for at those positions.

do you think he needs to put on some more weight? he looks kinda thin for a linebacker and more like a safety. His coverage skills are pretty dam good though and he seems like a good tackler