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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Dude you let the point go right over your head again, a walking hypocritical contradiction.

The league disagrees with you too, James and Minkah were first round picks and their paychecks backs it up too

Now go look at the rest of the highly paid S. Oh don't want to do that, gotcha.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
No not ignoring CB or DE because those are premium positions. He puts Safety in the same category as Guards, not worth first round selections.

Because they're not worth 1st rd sections. Your boy Huff is proof of that. Go look at the highest paid safeties and when they were drafted…outside of those two guys you mentioned, none were 1st rd picks.

Kyle Hamilton was a 1st rounder and he'll set the market for Safeties
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
So you judge players based on if they got paid? That's funny because I remember Jimmy getting paid, so that must mean he was the best QB in the NFL then huh? And you believed that based on your logic. I remember a special someone complaining about that contract everyday

GTFO that they weren't worth first round selections. Both made pro bowls and all pros, MM made none. Wonder if Denver is regretting giving him that money And yeah MM made them so much better

Don't know why you continue to say the bold, you need to put an asterisk next to it and say IMO, cause I see those positions go in the first round all the time. NFL disagrees with you

Yeah because QB contracts are relatable 😝

You want to talk contracts, let talk about what he got from LV??? Oh you don't want to lol derp.

Yeah I complained about his contract because they f**king paid him after 5 f**king games! I complained about his contract when he had ZERO GTD cash and could move off him for NOTHING…don't come at me with whataboutisms with zero f**king context! Makes your comments look foolish and petty because you don't like what I said…deflecting.

lol go look at how many S/RB/IOL/LB go in the 1st vs EDGE/OT/OT/CB/DT. Not even remotely close. Go look at who's getting paid at those positions that you think are soooo valuable and where they were drafted vs those premium positions. The NFL disagrees with YOU buddy.

Dude you are so petty. This post looks like a little girl b***h fighting with someone, oh yeah, well you YOU YOU.

First sentence: Again you should put an asterisk next to your point since now contract can't be used for QB when making a point

Second sentences: YOU brought up contract, WTF And again you need another asterisk, can't talk about the contract he got from 49ers, only the one he got from LV

Third paragraph: whataboutisms and zero context. You keep telling us go look at MMs contract to justify your point. Krizay and I said it's a contradiction when we can do the same for James and Minkah. Go back and re read before getting hell bent and making sure you get the last say, you certainly are that type. Not rocket science, I don't think my comments look foolish and petty in those post to anyone else and it certainly isn't deflecting.

Fourth paragraph: Nobody at any point has argued with you that some positions are more premier than others NY. The difference between us is that some, including me, think that there are times when S/RB/IOL/LB are worth first round picks. And every one of those positions DO go in the first round, all the time. That's a fact.
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Here we go, so you don't have to go back and watch the whole game. This is Mims first collegiate start.


Bumping this to move on

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Dude you let the point go right over your head again, a walking hypocritical contradiction.

The league disagrees with you too, James and Minkah were first round picks and their paychecks backs it up too

Now go look at the rest of the highly paid S. Oh don't want to do that, gotcha.

Why do I have to look at the rest of the league? My point was proven with those two alone from your own contradiction.

The bold is weak AF
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Dude you are so petty. This post looks like a little girl b***h fighting with someone, oh yeah, well you YOU YOU.

First sentence: Again you should put an asterisk next to your point since now contract can't be used for QB when making a point

Second sentences: YOU brought up contract, WTF And again you need another asterisk, can't talk about the contract he got from 49ers, only the one he got from LV

Third paragraph: whataboutisms and zero context. You keep telling us go look at MMs contract to justify your point. Krizay and I said it's a contradiction when we can do the same for James and Minkah. Go back and re read before getting hell bent and making sure you get the last say, you certainly are that type. Not rocket science, I don't think my comments look foolish and petty in those post to anyone else and it certainly isn't deflecting.

Fourth paragraph: Nobody at any point has argued with you that some positions are more premier than others NY. The difference between us is that some, including me, think that there are times when S/RB/IOL/LB are worth first round picks. And every one of those positions DO go in the first round, all the time. That's a fact.

You literally said nothing here. Only one being petty is you my dude. Deflecting because you don't like what I have to say

I provided actual evidence/facts to backup my stance. Of course you're not gonna take the time to look at who's getting paid in this league and where they were drafted. Of course you're not gonna look at the numbers and see which positions are consistently getting taken in the first 1st and which aren't.

contradicting? Yeah me saying even an okay RT is getting paid $85M (Which is MORE) than what two 1st rd safeties are getting paid (the ONLY two 1st rd S by the way). Jeez why is that??? Because that position is
much more valuable than S.

you don't agree, that's fine. I've made my point and I've provided facts…not my problem you don't like it.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 12, 2024 at 3:53 PM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Dude you are so petty. This post looks like a little girl b***h fighting with someone, oh yeah, well you YOU YOU.

First sentence: Again you should put an asterisk next to your point since now contract can't be used for QB when making a point

Second sentences: YOU brought up contract, WTF And again you need another asterisk, can't talk about the contract he got from 49ers, only the one he got from LV

Third paragraph: whataboutisms and zero context. You keep telling us go look at MMs contract to justify your point. Krizay and I said it's a contradiction when we can do the same for James and Minkah. Go back and re read before getting hell bent and making sure you get the last say, you certainly are that type. Not rocket science, I don't think my comments look foolish and petty in those post to anyone else and it certainly isn't deflecting.

Fourth paragraph: Nobody at any point has argued with you that some positions are more premier than others NY. The difference between us is that some, including me, think that there are times when S/RB/IOL/LB are worth first round picks. And every one of those positions DO go in the first round, all the time. That's a fact.

You literally said nothing here. Only one being petty is you my dude. Deflecting because you don't like what I have to say

I provided actual evidence/facts to backup my stance. Of course you're not gonna take the time to look at who's getting paid in this league and where they were drafted. Of course you're not gonna look at the numbers and see which positions are consistently getting taken in the first 1st and which aren't.

contradicting? Yeah me saying even an okay RT is getting paid $85M (Which is MORE) than what two 1st rd safeties are getting paid (the ONLY two 1st rd S by the way). Jeez why is that??? Because that position is
much more valuable than S.

you don't agree, that's fine. I've made my point and I've provided facts…not my problem you don't like it.

I'll stop here. You seriously got some comprehension issues man.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
I'll stop here. You seriously got some comprehension issues man.

No you clearly do…trying so hard to cherry pick and act like that's the norm lol. Statistics aren't your thing clearly. Facts aren't your thing.

24 OTs taken in the 1st since 2018 vs 7 safeties, 9 RBs and 7 IOL Super comparable
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 12, 2024 at 4:16 PM ]
Would folks be willing to give up next yrs 2nd to move up and get one of these OTs? I feel like I would.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Would folks be willing to give up next yrs 2nd to move up and get one of these OTs? I feel like I would.

I would not. I don't think any of the guys we could possibly trade up for is a 2nd round pick better than Suamataia.

Kingsley suamataia and 2025 2nd is more valuable than Mims or the Washington guy people think should play guard.

Everyone talks about the depth of the position in this draft. Trading up negates the depth of the position.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Would folks be willing to give up next yrs 2nd to move up and get one of these OTs? I feel like I would.

I would not. I don't think any of the guys we could possibly trade up for is a 2nd round pick better than Suamataia.

Kingsley suamataia and 2025 2nd is more valuable than Mims or the Washington guy people think should play guard.

Everyone talks about the depth of the position in this draft. Trading up negates the depth of the position.

I would actually consider trading the1st round pick for 2 second round picks if one was something like the 5th or 6th pick in round 2 and the other was the 15th or so. There wouldn't be a whole lot of difference between #6 in round 2 and #31 in round one. It really depends on the way things unfold and who is there when their pick comes up. Some team with multiple 2nd rounders may value a player that's sitting there at #31 more than the 49ers.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I would actually consider trading the1st round pick for 2 second round picks if one was something like the 5th or 6th pick in round 2 and the other was the 15th or so. There wouldn't be a whole lot of difference between #6 in round 2 and #31 in round one. It really depends on the way things unfold and who is there when their pick comes up. Some team with multiple 2nd rounders may value a player that's sitting there at #31 more than the 49ers.

I too would be willing to trade down. I don't think we'd net 2 2nds but if I stay in the 30's I'd gladly take an extra 3rd.
Originally posted by krizay:
I would not. I don't think any of the guys we could possibly trade up for is a 2nd round pick better than Suamataia.

Kingsley suamataia and 2025 2nd is more valuable than Mims or the Washington guy people think should play guard.

Everyone talks about the depth of the position in this draft. Trading up negates the depth of the position.

That fair. I have Mims and Fautanu a tier ahead of Kingsley. There's depth, but there's also tiers. I don't even know if Kingsley makes it to SF. I can see the Ravens/Packers/cowboys taking him. I can see DC moving back up to get him all the same. They have a lot of picks to work with.

Sometimes you can't let the board come to you…sometimes you gotta make a move for a guy that can be a foundational piece on a team that's already setup pretty well.

I also think our second next yr will be almost a 3rd and I wouldn't be shocked if we moved Deebo next yr to grain some capital.
Originally posted by krizay:
I too would be willing to trade down. I don't think we'd net 2 2nds but if I stay in the 30's I'd gladly take an extra 3rd.

You will forever be the guys that wants to trade down 😝 . It's fine that's your philosophy.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I would actually consider trading the1st round pick for 2 second round picks if one was something like the 5th or 6th pick in round 2 and the other was the 15th or so. There wouldn't be a whole lot of difference between #6 in round 2 and #31 in round one. It really depends on the way things unfold and who is there when their pick comes up. Some team with multiple 2nd rounders may value a player that's sitting there at #31 more than the 49ers.

I mean I don't know who would trade two 2nds to move up to 31? That's not really realistic imo.
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