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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I would put Tanor Bortolini on that list. He can play all 3 interior positions. Great day 3 guy that could be a starter.

I don't think drafting a guy in the top 2 rds because of how versatile he is on the OL is a positive overall….at least I wouldn't be looking for that. You want a OT, draft a guy you know will be an OT and good there. I don't want a bunch of brunskill type guys with those two first picks.

I like Barton/Puni…both are IOL at the next level. So you need to have the mindset that you're taking him to play that position…which overall lowers their value for me, unless it's to play center in the NFL

You were one of the guys happy that we selected Mcglinchey over Derwin James and Minkah weren't you. Because of positional value

Feel like you're ignoring a CB we shoulda taken instead of McGlinchey. But if memory serves me right NY woulda taken Harold Landry at 9

No not ignoring CB or DE because those are premium positions. He puts Safety in the same category as Guards, not worth first round selections.

Ohh I get what you're saying. If but if we took Miller instead of McGlinchey I don't think anyone would be pissed about missing out on Derwin. 1 person would still be pissed about missing out on the People's Captain Jaire.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Ohh I get what you're saying. If but if we took Miller instead of McGlinchey I don't think anyone would be pissed about missing out on Derwin. 1 person would still be pissed about missing out on the People's Captain Jaire.

lol you and Jaire will be linked on webzone for life
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I would put Tanor Bortolini on that list. He can play all 3 interior positions. Great day 3 guy that could be a starter.

I don't think drafting a guy in the top 2 rds because of how versatile he is on the OL is a positive overall….at least I wouldn't be looking for that. You want a OT, draft a guy you know will be an OT and good there. I don't want a bunch of brunskill type guys with those two first picks.

I like Barton/Puni…both are IOL at the next level. So you need to have the mindset that you're taking him to play that position…which overall lowers their value for me, unless it's to play center in the NFL

You were one of the guys happy that we selected Mcglinchey over Derwin James and Minkah weren't you. Because of positional value

Feel like you're ignoring a CB we shoulda taken instead of McGlinchey. But if memory serves me right NY woulda taken Harold Landry at 9

Yup! I had Landry, Warner and brian O'Neill as my guys in my last mock that year…Landry's been a double digit sack guy his last two seasons (tore his ACL in between). All 3 guys have gotten paid.

I was not a fan of McG at 9 overall, but people need to stop the s**t with him being some bust. He was a good starting RT. Overdrafted, yes. There's a reason he got $85M this past off season…teams are starving for OTs. Like you said if they take Miller, no one is complaining.

I like both James and Minkah. Neither are making their teams vastly better, especially on those contracts. One even got traded before his rookie deal was done. There's a reason why premium positions go in the 1st rd…unfortunately that's not S/IOL/RB etc.

and I'm with ya. Outside CB is a premium position and they're allergic to drafting them high.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 12, 2024 at 11:58 AM ]
Originally posted by 49ers808:
No not ignoring CB or DE because those are premium positions. He puts Safety in the same category as Guards, not worth first round selections.

Because they're not worth 1st rd sections. Your boy Huff is proof of that. Go look at the highest paid safeties and when they were drafted…outside of those two guys you mentioned, none were 1st rd picks.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yup! I had Landry, Warner and brian O'Neill as my guys in my last mock that year…Landry's been a double digit sack guy his last two seasons (tore his ACL in between). All 3 guys have gotten paid.

I was not a fan of McG at 9 overall, but people need to stop the s**t with him being some bust. He was a good starting RT. Overdrafted, yes. There's a reason he got $85M this past off season…teams are starving for OTs. Like you said if they take Miller, no one is complaining.

I like both James and Minkah. Neither are making their teams vastly better, especially on those contracts. One even got traded before his rookie deal was done. There's a reason why premium positions go in the 1st rd…unfortunately that's not S/IOL/RB etc.

and I'm with ya. Outside CB is a premium position and they're allergic to drafting them high.


McG gets credit for getting paid despite not making his team vastly better.

James and Minka gets critiqued for getting paid and not making their teams vastly better.
Here we go, so you don't have to go back and watch the whole game. This is Mims first collegiate start.

Originally posted by krizay:

McG gets credit for getting paid despite not making his team vastly better.

James and Minka gets critiqued for getting paid and not making their teams vastly better.

That Broncos team was a f**king mess. Come on now. We get it you think he blows, the league disagrees and his pay check backs it up.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yup! I had Landry, Warner and brian O'Neill as my guys in my last mock that year…Landry's been a double digit sack guy his last two seasons (tore his ACL in between). All 3 guys have gotten paid.

I was not a fan of McG at 9 overall, but people need to stop the s**t with him being some bust. He was a good starting RT. Overdrafted, yes. There's a reason he got $85M this past off season…teams are starving for OTs. Like you said if they take Miller, no one is complaining.

I like both James and Minkah. Neither are making their teams vastly better, especially on those contracts. One even got traded before his rookie deal was done. There's a reason why premium positions go in the 1st rd…unfortunately that's not S/IOL/RB etc.

and I'm with ya. Outside CB is a premium position and they're allergic to drafting them high.


Originally posted by NYniner85:
Because they're not worth 1st rd sections. Your boy Huff is proof of that. Go look at the highest paid safeties and when they were drafted…outside of those two guys you mentioned, none were 1st rd picks.

So you judge players based on if they got paid? That's funny because I remember Jimmy getting paid, so that must mean he was the best QB in the NFL then huh? And you believed that based on your logic. I remember a special someone complaining about that contract everyday

GTFO that they weren't worth first round selections. Both made pro bowls and all pros, MM made none. Wonder if Denver is regretting giving him that money And yeah MM made them so much better

Don't know why you continue to say the bold, you need to put an asterisk next to it and say IMO, cause I see those positions go in the first round all the time. NFL disagrees with you
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by krizay:

McG gets credit for getting paid despite not making his team vastly better.

James and Minka gets critiqued for getting paid and not making their teams vastly better.

That Broncos team was a f**king mess. Come on now. We get it you think he blows, the league disagrees and his pay check backs it up.

Dude you let the point go right over your head again, a walking hypocritical contradiction.

The league disagrees with you too, James and Minkah were first round picks and their paychecks backs it up too
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
That Broncos team was a f**king mess. Come on now. We get it you think he blows, the league disagrees and his pay check backs it up.

Lol. My post had less to do with McG and more to do with the contradictory nature of your post.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
So you judge players based on if they got paid? That's funny because I remember Jimmy getting paid, so that must mean he was the best QB in the NFL then huh? And you believed that based on your logic. I remember a special someone complaining about that contract everyday

GTFO that they weren't worth first round selections. Both made pro bowls and all pros, MM made none. Wonder if Denver is regretting giving him that money And yeah MM made them so much better

Don't know why you continue to say the bold, you need to put an asterisk next to it and say IMO, cause I see those positions go in the first round all the time. NFL disagrees with you

Yeah because QB contracts are relatable 😝

You want to talk contracts, let talk about what he got from LV??? Oh you don't want to lol derp.

Yeah I complained about his contract because they f**king paid him after 5 f**king games! I complained about his contract when he had ZERO GTD cash and could move off him for NOTHING…don't come at me with whataboutisms with zero f**king context! Makes your comments look foolish and petty because you don't like what I said…deflecting.

lol go look at how many S/RB/IOL/LB go in the 1st vs EDGE/OT/OT/CB/DT. Not even remotely close. Go look at who's getting paid at those positions that you think are soooo valuable and where they were drafted vs those premium positions. The NFL disagrees with YOU buddy.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
That Broncos team was a f**king mess. Come on now. We get it you think he blows, the league disagrees and his pay check backs it up.

Lol. My post had less to do with McG and more to do with the contradictory nature of your post.

My point is even the best S in the league don't have the juice that a good starting OT has. money backs that up…Contradict that all you want.
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Here we go, so you don't have to go back and watch the whole game. This is Mims first collegiate start.


Bumping this to move on
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
My point is even the best S in the league don't have the juice that a good starting OT has. money backs that up…Contradict that all you want.

I totally agree with this. I didn't agree with your post that got us here.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
My point is even the best S in the league don't have the juice that a good starting OT has. money backs that up…Contradict that all you want.

I totally agree with this. I didn't agree with your post that got us here.

Okay let's move on then.
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