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Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Nobody coming off a bad injury. We don't need to risk that.

I don't know if I agree with this anymore. Not much chance for anyone we draft to get a lot of playing time so we can afford to redshirt the right pick.

Agree if it isn't earlier than the 6th.

In general, no drafted running backs.

No wide receiver before the 5th.

No receiving only tight ends.

No kickers before the 6th.
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Agree if it isn't earlier than the 6th.

In general, no drafted running backs.

No wide receiver before the 5th.

No receiving only tight ends.

No kickers before the 6th.

I'm with you on those ones.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Agree if it isn't earlier than the 6th.

In general, no drafted running backs.

No wide receiver before the 5th.

No receiving only tight ends.

No kickers before the 6th.

I don't agree with this at all. Well maybe the RB and Kicker part.

Great WRs can be had in rounds 3 and 4. If a WR you have a 2nd or 3rd round grade on is there at 100 you take him.

Our TE room consist of 1 guy who can do it all and 2 other guys who just block. I'd be happy with a receiving TE who can be taught to block a little or at least get in the way.
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Agree if it isn't earlier than the 6th.

In general, no drafted running backs.

No wide receiver before the 5th.

No receiving only tight ends.

No kickers before the 6th.

I don't agree with this at all. Well maybe the RB and Kicker part.

Great WRs can be had in rounds 3 and 4. If a WR you have a 2nd or 3rd round grade on is there at 100 you take him.

Our TE room consist of 1 guy who can do it all and 2 other guys who just block. I'd be happy with a receiving TE who can be taught to block a little or at least get in the way.

I think we can get a guy that can do both, which is why I'd rather not teach a guy to block a little. Part of the issue is that we have to rely on Kittle so much for this. Getting a non-blocker isn't going to help him. A receiver with a 3rd round grade taken at 100 isn't some great bargain. The 2nd round grade would have me interested, but then the question is- why did they drop? If it's because for whatever reason there was a run on other positions, I can see it. These aren't hard nos. But for me to move on this it has to be either a great bargain or said player should be clearly better than a player at a position of need, a la Elijah Mitchell who I think they had a 3rd round grade on and took him in the 6th round over whichever linebacker they intended on taking. That's a great deal. But a 3rd round receiver at 100? Pass. If we're taking one, I'd envision them being able to take over for Ray-Ray, who we only have for another year or insurance for Deebo (injury).
[ Edited by LifelongNiner on Apr 17, 2023 at 11:50 AM ]
I was looking for more prospect specific answers when i posted this, not generalities. Then again, the responses seem to indicate the following:

- Drafting a complete TE is a must, no catch only TE's. Seems like that points towards any of the Big 10 TE's.
- Don't draft a RB. I find that amusing since the Niners almost always draft a RB.
- Don't draft a WR or PK earlier than day 3.
- Draft a safety with ball skills and tackling ability. Need more turnovers from our next FS.
- Draft big CB's.
- Don't draft a QB because the Niners don't need one. Every indication is the Niners will draft a 4th QB for the practice squad.

Did I miss anything?
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
I was looking for more prospect specific answers when i posted this, not generalities. Then again, the responses seem to indicate the following:

- Drafting a complete TE is a must, no catch only TE's. Seems like that points towards any of the Big 10 TE's.
- Don't draft a RB. I find that amusing since the Niners almost always draft a RB.
- Don't draft a WR or PK earlier than day 3.
- Draft a safety with ball skills and tackling ability. Need more turnovers from our next FS.
- Draft big CB's.
- Don't draft a QB because the Niners don't need one. Every indication is the Niners will draft a 4th QB for the practice squad.

Did I miss anything?

You okay with a 4th round kicker?
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
You okay with a 4th round kicker?

I'm not OK with that and apparently no one else here is either. Fifth round at the earliest and 7th round is preferred.
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
I was looking for more prospect specific answers when i posted this, not generalities. Then again, the responses seem to indicate the following:

- Drafting a complete TE is a must, no catch only TE's. Seems like that points towards any of the Big 10 TE's.
- Don't draft a RB. I find that amusing since the Niners almost always draft a RB.
- Don't draft a WR or PK earlier than day 3.
- Draft a safety with ball skills and tackling ability. Need more turnovers from our next FS.
- Draft big CB's.
- Don't draft a QB because the Niners don't need one. Every indication is the Niners will draft a 4th QB for the practice squad.

Did I miss anything?

It's harder to answer the absolutely do not draft question this year because our picks are so low. No matter what we take, there are going to be issues. Going back and looking at my traits, I am going to list players that work against what I think we should be going for.

I am going to say no to Jake Haener. I think some of the similarities with Brock Purdy will elevate his draft status higher than where he should be. He does not possess the physical skills of Brock (escapability) and in my opinion is destined to be an average backup. Given that we have three very good QBs on the roster, any QB drafted is destined for the practice squad, but the hype will have him going before the 6th or 7th round, so pass on Haener.

Zack Kuntz- looked super athletic at the combine and seems more of the big receiver type. I want a TE that can block and catch. Said TE doesn't have to be an elite pass catcher, but just be able to take advantage of being one-on-one or wide open, because they will be getting little attention from defenders.

Sam LaPorta- similar to Kuntz with the blocking. Add in when you consider how high both of these guys will be going in the draft. Pass.

Atonio Mafi- I think we met with him and although he is likely scratching the surface of his ability, I just don't see him fitting into what we like to go for in a guard historically or even recently (Aaron Banks bucks the trend a little bit). Just a massive human being, but he's no Trent Williams (who is), nor do I see him becoming a guy that can get to the second level, etc. Now if he's sitting there in the 7th round, I could change my position, but for now, I'll say no.

Roschon Johnson- we met with him, but what are we really adding here? We have Mason who is proven IMO and could handle a larger load if we didn't have Mitchell. We also have TDP, who the staff allegedly likes lol. The burned yet another 3rd on him, so they had to see something. It's senses to burn another pick on a back that isn't a pass catcher.
My things I don't want to see during the draft
1. Us trade away Lance for anything less than a first round pick, even then I'll be praying Purdy is back 100% and never gets injured again.

2. We don't draft a QB before the 5th round. This goes in play with #1 obviously.

3. No kickers until late day 3. Two of the best to ever do it were undrafted. We don't need to spend an early pick and pretend it's a smart move, it's not.

Outside of those I honestly don't care too much. I have my preferences of course but I trust our coaches to scheme and develop non QBs.
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Can only think of one: Jake Moody

Oh! And Andre Carter II. Definitely do not draft that guy
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Can only think of one: Jake Moody

Oh! And Andre Carter II. Definitely do not draft that guy

Too much work to develop him into an NFL player?
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I personally believe that both Will Anderson and Jalen Carter will be average players in the NFL..
Originally posted by 9moon:
I personally believe that both Will Anderson and Jalen Carter will be average players in the NFL..

K, we shouldn't draft them for sure
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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Originally posted by 9moon:
I personally believe that both Will Anderson and Jalen Carter will be average players in the NFL..

K, we shouldn't draft them for sure

I personally, would not draft both in the 1st round..
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Originally posted by 9moon:
I personally believe that both Will Anderson and Jalen Carter will be average players in the NFL..

K, we shouldn't draft them for sure

I might take Anderson in the 3rd. But Carter I'd only take a flier on in like the 6th.
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