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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I think the window under this group of players is closing pretty fast. I would rather the Niners make some moves to pick up 2-3 impact players that can step in and play right away. That probably means moving up from a late third..
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Even though the Niners will probably not see him on the board at 61, Troy Andersen is a swing for the fences prospect. He is green, but he is going to be the best athlete on the field every Sunday. If his learning curve is strong at LB, that kid is fun to watch. Reminds me of a combination of Brian Urlacher and Tremaine Edmunds.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Even though the Niners will probably not see him on the board at 61, Troy Andersen is a swing for the fences prospect. He is green, but he is going to be the best athlete on the field every Sunday. If his learning curve is strong at LB, that kid is fun to watch. Reminds me of a combination of Brian Urlacher and Tremaine Edmunds.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Even though the Niners will probably not see him on the board at 61, Troy Andersen is a swing for the fences prospect. He is green, but he is going to be the best athlete on the field every Sunday. If his learning curve is strong at LB, that kid is fun to watch. Reminds me of a combination of Brian Urlacher and Tremaine Edmunds.
I wouldn't be shocked one bit. We don't have any LBs besides Warner signed after this season.
Originally posted by irishluder:
Originally posted by NTeply49:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by NTeply49:
What do you think about some of these linebackers? Muma, Maye, Chenal, Troy Anderson, and Christian Harris? All seem to be hyper athletic
It is a really good class of second-day players. If a team wants to build up their LB room, this is the day to make it happen. Some of these guys are pretty good-sized, as well, in the 240+ range. I'd add in the two Oklahoma kids in this group: Asamoah and Bonitto.
Anderson is a guy who is still learning how to play. He might need some extra time to play at this high level, especially playing at a small school. Chenal is plug and play. Maye and Bonitto add the pass-rushing component.
It is a fun group.
I thought so too. I think the Lions did really well to put themselves in a position to get Jameson Williams while moving back in the 2nd round to put themselves in a perfect position to grab one of those guys or a safety to pair with Tracy Walker.
I think the Niners need to look at interior line, pass rusher to pair with Bosa, Safety, or maybe a tight end like Ruckert.
Def agree, OC is our biggest need at this point, Cam Jergens if available will be BPA, if Brisker falls to the 50's then I could see us trading up for him as well.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I think the window under this group of players is closing pretty fast. I would rather the Niners make some moves to pick up 2-3 impact players that can step in and play right away. That probably means moving up from a late third..
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I think the window under this group of players is closing pretty fast. I would rather the Niners make some moves to pick up 2-3 impact players that can step in and play right away. That probably means moving up from a late third..
THIS is exactly what I'm talking about... we drafted like we on top of the world and only needed players for the future...the worst part is, what we gonna do w/the OLs we drafted this year if they can't beat out the OLs we drafted last year?
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
With the blink of an eye, the draft has come and gone. It was certainly a different one, since our first pick came late in the second round. It makes it very difficult to find top-end talent that can step in and immediately help the team.
When I review the Niners' draft, i think the Niners hit in some picks, reached on others and completely missed golden opportunities to improve their roster.
Count me bullish on Drake Jackson (a very nice player with upside), Kalia Davis, Tariq Castro-Fields and Brock Purdy as good value selections in their slot. At the same time, I thought the team was overly ambitious with their selections of Tyrion Davis-Price, Danny Gray, Spencer Burford, Samuel Womack, and Nick Zakelj. In my opinion, Gray (who I like as a player) will be the only player in this group who makes it to a second contract with the team, and I believe that Gray was selected a round early.
It is hard to hit on picks after the fourth round, so I can't be too tough on the Niners on their Saturday selections. Teams are grasping at straws with Day Three picks.
I am most critical of the Davis-Price pick. That was a huge error, especially with a top 100 selection.
I am a huge believer at making value picks with guys who have a perceived medical issue that may or may not be a problem down the road. Last year, in my shadow draft, I picked Azzez Ojulari for the Niners in second round. The reason for the drop, after a huge junior year at Georgia, was because of a heart issue that didn't seem to impact him last year. The Giants grabbed Ojulari two picks after the Niners picked Aaron Banks at 48, and he went on to become a stud DE, setting a franchise record for sacks as a rookie.
With that idea in mind, I didn't mind going for the fences with a late second rounder in Nakobe Dean, who says he is fine, and ready to play. I liked Cross in the third round as a safety with great range, and outstanding tackling skills, especially in the open field. I love this kid and his makeup. Winfrey was a monster at the Senior Bowl, which is a barometer I often use to gauge the ability for these college kids to transition to the NFL. When a player stands out in this All-Star game, it is worth a serious consideration. The same goes for Austin, who was simply uncoverable during Senior Bowl week. He is tiny, and if you blow on him, he falls down, but is open all the time. Deep, deep speed!
As stated earlier this week, I think the draft really falls off by the end of Day Two. In most years, I see draft gems sitting on the board in the fifth, sixth and sometimes even seventh rounds. I just didn't see much talent in this draft. So, my 5-7th rounders are backup material (all of these players were UFA). I do think all have a legit shot at making the roster, or at the least spending time on the practice squad. Domann has had two ACL surgeries, which certainly killed his draft grade, but this kid is a rocket on special teams. If his knees hold up, I like his chances of being a special teams anchor for years to come. Strong also has concerns over his knees. We will see if that kills his chances of playing in the NFL. But, he's got a live arm. Garrett was shot in the face this year, but recovered and had a solid year here in Columbus. As stated earlier with Dean, I'll take some chances with productive, hard-working, good-character kids. But, this is my own draft strategy.
Here was my on-the-clock shadow draft:
2. Nakobe Dean- LB, Georgia (drafted 22 picks after the Niners selected Jackson)
3. Nick Cross- S, Maryland (drafted 3 picks after the Niners selected Davis-Price)
3. Perrion Winfrey- DT, Oklahoma (drafted 3 picks after the Niners selected Gray)
4. Calvin Austin- WR, Memphis (drafted 4 picks after the Niners selected Burford)
5. Kellen Diesch- OT. Arizona State (UFA)
6. Dohnovan West- G, Arizona State (UFA)
6. Carson Strong- QB, Nevada (UFA)
6. Jojo Domann- S/ST- Nebraska (UFA)
7. Haskell Garrett- DT, Ohio State (UFA)
Cheers to all of you! And, good luck to all our 49ers draftees. I hope they all go to multiple Pro Bowls.
-MD
