Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:

Originally posted by gored49:

Originally posted by roasthawg:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Oh we're back to comparing college prospects to greats

Yeah it's fun...he's clearly gonna be Drew Brees. I mean the Jets and Jags are gonna pass on that though

That's because you got Elway and Rodgers ahead of him. Honestly this is an incredible class of qb prospects. Most interesting one ever. Hell of a draft to trade up to three. I love it.

It all makes sense to me now. Why are the 49ers of all teams anti Jones? I just watched his top 10 plays after announcing his retirement and it donned on me... Mac jones is Alex smith. We all love Alex but so many bad memories of passing on Rodgers and Smith always making the short safe play and gaining 9 yards on 3 downs. The majority of niner fans have hopes for something more.

No lol. He's not. Not even close. Alex was way more tentative and risk-averse. You Mac Jones haters can't even hate on him accurately lol.

ive also seen the Andy dalton comp. again, it even close. Dalton was LESS athletic and also not nearly as good at reading defenses, something you can go look up directly from his scouting report if you are so inclined.

"that stupid Mac Jones, worse DE prospect in YEARS! Plus he went to Oregon, stupid school"
- someone in this thread, somewhere, probably.

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:
No lol. He's not. Not even close. Alex was way more tentative and risk-averse. You Mac Jones haters can't even hate on him accurately lol.

ive also seen the Andy dalton comp. again, it even close. Dalton was LESS athletic and also not nearly as good at reading defenses, something you can go look up directly from his scouting report if you are so inclined.

"that stupid Mac Jones, worse DE prospect in YEARS! Plus he went to Oregon, stupid school"
- someone in this thread, somewhere, probably.

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Alex was a much better prospect coming out than Mac is, and the league gobbled him up. Alex was clearly one of the most intelligent players around, quick to process but he didn't have what it takes to become an elite QB. That is the Mac Jones future: smart guy, will be alright, have a decent alex-esque career. You should not settle for that at 3

Originally posted by gored49:

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:

Originally posted by gored49:

Originally posted by roasthawg:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Oh we're back to comparing college prospects to greats

Yeah it's fun...he's clearly gonna be Drew Brees. I mean the Jets and Jags are gonna pass on that though

That's because you got Elway and Rodgers ahead of him. Honestly this is an incredible class of qb prospects. Most interesting one ever. Hell of a draft to trade up to three. I love it.

It all makes sense to me now. Why are the 49ers of all teams anti Jones? I just watched his top 10 plays after announcing his retirement and it donned on me... Mac jones is Alex smith. We all love Alex but so many bad memories of passing on Rodgers and Smith always making the short safe play and gaining 9 yards on 3 downs. The majority of niner fans have hopes for something more.

No lol. He's not. Not even close. Alex was way more tentative and risk-averse. You Mac Jones haters can't even hate on him accurately lol.

ive also seen the Andy dalton comp. again, it even close. Dalton was LESS athletic and also not nearly as good at reading defenses, something you can go look up directly from his scouting report if you are so inclined.

"that stupid Mac Jones, worse DE prospect in YEARS! Plus he went to Oregon, stupid school"
- someone in this thread, somewhere, probably.

I don't remember much of smith out of college off the top of my head and mostly just was referencing the situation. If jones is average and one of the other qbs is the next Rodgers we will be feeling deja vu.

I did look up an Alex smith draft profile and it is pretty similar to jones minus the mobility part
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2005/prospects/alex_smith.html

the way jones plays I would not be surprised if he turns out more like Smith. He won't have all those WRs open consistently.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by jcs:
What are you going to do when it's not Fields?

What are you gonna do if it is fields

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Alex was a much better prospect coming out than Mac is, and the league gobbled him up. Alex was clearly one of the most intelligent players around, quick to process but he didn't have what it takes to become an elite QB. That is the Mac Jones future: smart guy, will be alright, have a decent alex-esque career. You should not settle for that at 3

Alex lacked the killer instinct that I think Mac might have.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by jcs:
What are you going to do when it's not Fields?

What are you gonna do if it is fields

Accept it and you if it's Jones

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:

Originally posted by gored49:

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:

Originally posted by gored49:

Originally posted by roasthawg:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Oh we're back to comparing college prospects to greats

Yeah it's fun...he's clearly gonna be Drew Brees. I mean the Jets and Jags are gonna pass on that though

That's because you got Elway and Rodgers ahead of him. Honestly this is an incredible class of qb prospects. Most interesting one ever. Hell of a draft to trade up to three. I love it.

It all makes sense to me now. Why are the 49ers of all teams anti Jones? I just watched his top 10 plays after announcing his retirement and it donned on me... Mac jones is Alex smith. We all love Alex but so many bad memories of passing on Rodgers and Smith always making the short safe play and gaining 9 yards on 3 downs. The majority of niner fans have hopes for something more.

No lol. He's not. Not even close. Alex was way more tentative and risk-averse. You Mac Jones haters can't even hate on him accurately lol.

ive also seen the Andy dalton comp. again, it even close. Dalton was LESS athletic and also not nearly as good at reading defenses, something you can go look up directly from his scouting report if you are so inclined.

"that stupid Mac Jones, worse DE prospect in YEARS! Plus he went to Oregon, stupid school"
- someone in this thread, somewhere, probably.

I don't remember much of smith out of college off the top of my head and mostly just was referencing the situation. If jones is average and one of the other qbs is the next Rodgers we will be feeling deja vu.

I did look up an Alex smith draft profile and it is pretty similar to jones minus the mobility part
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2005/prospects/alex_smith.html

the way jones plays I would not be surprised if he turns out more like Smith. He won't have all those WRs open consistently.

You might see some similarities in terms of some of the superlatives that are thrown around (smart, quick processing) but they ran vastly different offenses and overall are just different quarterbacks. Nobody was saying that smith threw receivers open in college, and nobody was praising his anticipation. In fact, one of the common critiques he got was that he needs to see receivers open before he throws, something that, while he did improve on later in his career, never completely went away.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Alex was a much better prospect coming out than Mac is, and the league gobbled him up. Alex was clearly one of the most intelligent players around, quick to process but he didn't have what it takes to become an elite QB. That is the Mac Jones future: smart guy, will be alright, have a decent alex-esque career. You should not settle for that at 3

Alex lacked the killer instinct that I think Mac might have.

Originally posted by 1swift:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Alex was a much better prospect coming out than Mac is, and the league gobbled him up. Alex was clearly one of the most intelligent players around, quick to process but he didn't have what it takes to become an elite QB. That is the Mac Jones future: smart guy, will be alright, have a decent alex-esque career. You should not settle for that at 3

Alex lacked the killer instinct that I think Mac might have.

Based on what, exactly?...they have eerily similar college careers especially considering the talent around them.

Originally posted by gored49:

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:

Originally posted by gored49:

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:

Originally posted by gored49:

Originally posted by roasthawg:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Oh we're back to comparing college prospects to greats

Yeah it's fun...he's clearly gonna be Drew Brees. I mean the Jets and Jags are gonna pass on that though

That's because you got Elway and Rodgers ahead of him. Honestly this is an incredible class of qb prospects. Most interesting one ever. Hell of a draft to trade up to three. I love it.

It all makes sense to me now. Why are the 49ers of all teams anti Jones? I just watched his top 10 plays after announcing his retirement and it donned on me... Mac jones is Alex smith. We all love Alex but so many bad memories of passing on Rodgers and Smith always making the short safe play and gaining 9 yards on 3 downs. The majority of niner fans have hopes for something more.

No lol. He's not. Not even close. Alex was way more tentative and risk-averse. You Mac Jones haters can't even hate on him accurately lol.

ive also seen the Andy dalton comp. again, it even close. Dalton was LESS athletic and also not nearly as good at reading defenses, something you can go look up directly from his scouting report if you are so inclined.

"that stupid Mac Jones, worse DE prospect in YEARS! Plus he went to Oregon, stupid school"
- someone in this thread, somewhere, probably.

I don't remember much of smith out of college off the top of my head and mostly just was referencing the situation. If jones is average and one of the other qbs is the next Rodgers we will be feeling deja vu.

I did look up an Alex smith draft profile and it is pretty similar to jones minus the mobility part
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2005/prospects/alex_smith.html

the way jones plays I would not be surprised if he turns out more like Smith. He won't have all those WRs open consistently.

You might see some similarities in terms of some of the superlatives that are thrown around (smart, quick processing) but they ran vastly different offenses and overall are just different quarterbacks. Nobody was saying that smith threw receivers open in college, and nobody was praising his anticipation. In fact, one of the common critiques he got was that he needs to see receivers open before he throws, something that, while he did improve on later in his career, never completely went away.

I will disagree with you here. The games I watched I rarely saw Jones throw his player open. I saw more scheme opening players up or the receiver getting good separation.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by 1swift:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Alex was a much better prospect coming out than Mac is, and the league gobbled him up. Alex was clearly one of the most intelligent players around, quick to process but he didn't have what it takes to become an elite QB. That is the Mac Jones future: smart guy, will be alright, have a decent alex-esque career. You should not settle for that at 3

Alex lacked the killer instinct that I think Mac might have.

Based on what, exactly?...they have eerily similar college careers especially considering the talent around them.

To begin with Alex wasn't really a deep ball threat in college. Mac Jones was. His deep ball accuracy made his #1 WR into a Heisman winner.