Mac Jones-QB-49ers

Originally posted by Kolohe:
That is not a Super Bowl MVP QB name. He's gonna be a bust.

You know what names sounds like a Super Bowl winning QB's name Zach Wilson or Trey Lance!!!

Not sure why people keep calling him by his middle name but a dude named Elisha won two SBs so anything is possible.

Originally posted by BOI49er:
Jimmy's cap money this year is $26.4m. His dead money if cut prior to week one is $2.8m. All vested veterans (4 years) salaries become fully guaranteed if they are on the week one roster.

Restructuring is borrowing from the future. You reduce the current year cap, and spread the rest out over the remaining life of the contract, but it all has to be "paid" as in charged off to the team's cap. Yes you can convert pay to a signing bonus now and pro rate the payment over the life of the contract, so that the future years cap hit is higher than the actual payments, since he already got it. If you retire early, you may owe the team some of that money back. If we want to save cap money over the life of the contract, we need to renegotiate lower pay under leverage of just being able to cut him.

Hmm you're correct the base salary becomes gtd.

also I never said it doesn't get paid (technically they're already paid)...but depending on the life of the contract the ramification of how much higher the cap hit is, really isn't incredibly more. For sure you want to restructure guys that are in your LT plans.

the fact remains that they can still have Jimmy on the roster this yr and resign who they need to resign, AB has it all there on his website. Also being able to structure contracts knowing that Jimmy won't be under contact in 2022 is a positive.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Not sure why people keep calling him by his middle name but a dude named Elisha won two SBs so anything is possible.

Old chicken legs McCorkle

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
It doesn't matter what rank they are. It's the value. Trent is gonna cost 24 million. Jason 10 at least. Then you have guys like Mosely, Juice and so on.

What do you mean it doesn't matter...top 10 in cash means, top 10 in available cash to spend lol.

I'll bet money Trent is NOT gonna cost $24M on the cap in 2021....Jason is NOT gonna cost $10M on the cap in 201, regardless of where they end up.

Because top 10 cash sounds great until you realize the progression from 32nd in cash to 1st in cash is not linear. There is a MASSIVE gulf between what the 49ers have to spend and what the Jaguars and say, Jets have to spend.

The Jaguars and Jets (and other teams with significantly more cap space) can afford to pay Trent 24 million and Jason 10 million. We can't.

So that's why RANK in cap space is irrelevant.

Cap, not cash. Weird auto correct.

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:

Originally posted by pdizo916:
So are you guys cheering for jones at 12 or nah?

Hell no

I am if we aren't getting Watson/Wilson/Fields.

I think he'd perform right away like Jimmy + throws deep w best deep ball in class. Wouldn't even mind if they traded Jimmy right after picking Jones to the Pats.

Not a bad consolation if we can't get the above three. We need a 1st round QB for when Jimmy goes down.

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:

Originally posted by pdizo916:
So are you guys cheering for jones at 12 or nah?

Hell no

I am if we aren't getting Watson/Wilson/Fields.

I think he'd perform right away like Jimmy + throws deep w best deep ball in class. Wouldn't even mind if they traded Jimmy right after picking Jones to the Pats.

Not a bad consolation if we can't get the above three. We need a 1st round QB for when Jimmy goes down.

Draft Jones and trade Jimmy to the Pats for Gilmore. Best scenario yet.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Anyway back to McCorkle.

What parents would hate their child enough to make him McCorkle.....his parents have some explaining to do.

I'd get that off my birth certificate first day I could.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:

Originally posted by pdizo916:
So are you guys cheering for jones at 12 or nah?

Hell no

I am if we aren't getting Watson/Wilson/Fields.

I think he'd perform right away like Jimmy + throws deep w best deep ball in class. Wouldn't even mind if they traded Jimmy right after picking Jones to the Pats.

Not a bad consolation if we can't get the above three. We need a 1st round QB for when Jimmy goes down.

Draft Jones and trade Jimmy to the Pats for Gilmore. Best scenario yet.

Gilmore didn't have a great 2020...but if you are saying we are also keeping Varret + Gilmore + Mosely I'd say sign me up.

Thought Gilmore was super expensive?

More like after getting Jones the Pats trade us a 2021 3rd or 2022 2nd/3rd for Jimmy.

Kind of like the McGlinchey pick...trade was already done as a contingency for Trent Brown and triggered when we got McGlinchey.

Trade for Jimmy is done and contingent on Shanalynch getting Watson or one of the 1st round QBs since draft is unpredictable. If we don't get our QB then we roll it back with Jimmy.

Originally posted by mayo49:
Draft Jones and trade Jimmy to the Pats for Gilmore. Best scenario yet.

Absolutely not lol. Gilmore is 31, coming off season ending injury, and only has one yr left on his contract...no more one yr rental on a old players.

We don't play a ton of man coverage, that's what he plays and has been good in.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Draft Jones and trade Jimmy to the Pats for Gilmore. Best scenario yet.

Absolutely not lol. Gilmore is 31, coming off season ending injury, and only has one yr left on his contract...no more one yr rental on a old players.

We don't play a ton of man coverage, that's what he plays and has been good in.

Oh, didn't realize he was 31 - definitely changes things.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Because top 10 cash sounds great until you realize the progression from 32nd in cash to 1st in cash is not linear. There is a MASSIVE gulf between what the 49ers have to spend and what the Jaguars and say, Jets have to spend.

The Jaguars and Jets (and other teams with significantly more cap space) can afford to pay Trent 24 million and Jason 10 million. We can't.

So that's why RANK in cap space is irrelevant.

So Trent is gonna end his career as a Jag with urban Meyer lol? Wut? I don't believe that for a second. He could have gotten trade to the Vikings (with a big fat extension and said no). Money matters (GTD $) and the Organization.

again Trent will NOT have a $24M cap hit regardless of where he goes in 2021. Verrett will NOT have a $10M cap hit in 2021 regardless of where he goes. Stop with APY stuff.

When a 3rd of the league is in the red and SF is top 10 in cash to spend, yeah that matters. Trent isn't gonna just go go anywhere just cause. The only team that worries me is INDY.

Originally posted by mayo49:
Oh, didn't realize he was 31 - definitely changes things.

Overall he's just not a fit here. I think he tore his quad or something end of the yr and only one yr left on his contract.

we can't keep trading together guys that are in their last yr of their contracts.

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