Justin Fields QB - Ohio State

Originally posted by tankle104:
but do you think Mahommes is a fair comparison for any QB prospect? Mahommes also has one of the most special passing abilities ever. He makes throws that are just unbelievable, every game. He has set records in his first few seasons etc.

My whole point is that I would take a special passing talent over a special running talent that can throw. I am not saying fields cant throw or anything like that - just making a general point. I'm going to root for and support whoever we select. The only Qb I would be disappointed in if we selected would be Lance, would still support him though.

As a prospect Fields is light years ahead of Mahomes coming out of Texas Tech. FIelds is literally a once in a generation prospect. That does not mean he is perfect & will not need to be coached in the NFL. But if he comes close to maxing out he is a top 5 QB easily.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
To me the biggest difference between Fields and Mac is Fields could have a bad game passing and still beat you in other ways. And what if the Niners suffer some injuries and they need their QB to carry them? What if the defense is on point and our Receivers can't get open on that particular day? What if we need our QB to buy some time for our receivers to get open? We can't always depend on Kyle to scheme our guys open. It's not that easy. We have to remember that defenses have a job to do also. Mac Jones is not going to be playing against those Edge rushers and Dbacks he played against in College. And the coaching is also way more advanced, The game planning, scouting, and everything. Mac's limited athletic ability scares the hell out of me. Putting all our faith in his football IQ to make him a top 10 QB is not what I want to trade 2 future 1st RD picks for.

I honestly don't think he is a bad athlete at all, he just isn't in shape. Similar to Brady - he isn't a world class athlete, of course, but they are both athletic. Mac is just sloppy and needs to get in better shape. Mac jones ran like a 4.7 - that isn't something a non-athletic person does.

People need to stop bringing up 40 times from this draft season. Jones isn't running a 4.7 at the combine.

And 40 time in shorts doesn't always translate to game speed. Jones is a football player so saying he's not athletic is obviously silly. However in comparison to the other top QBs he's easily back of the line and doesn't compare.

you could literally say that for every single player that runs the 40 - no one runs it in full gear, of course it isn't the same as game speed.

and of course he isn't a world class athlete like fields or lance - but he isn't a scrub athletic wise either. you just aren't going to see him doing windmill dunks lol

Yes I can. However pro day numbers are always faster. This is either the fastest draft class ever or maybe the combine was the great equalizer.

Every time we saw Mac run it was like a baby deer. Awkward and painful.

Your comments on Fields make me wonder if you actually watched him play much or just assume he's a runner who doesn't throw the ball well.

What have i said about Fields that was negative?

You've been insinuating that he's a running QB. He's not. He's an athletic QB who looks to throw. Just like Mahomes.

He may not have the arm of Mahomes and may not be as good making some of those crazy throws but he's more accurate than Mahomes was out of college and his arm is special as well.

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Originally posted by eastie:
yeah, just like the last Super Bowl when Mahomes scrambled and won...wait, never mind.

You do realize the only TD that Mahomes scored in the 1st 3 Quarters was his option RUN that was set up by his scramble on 3rd and 11 where Ward blew him up right? Not to mention he scrambled for another 1st on 3rd and 9 where Bosa almost sacked him and he scrambled for 16 on a 2nd and 19.

But yeah, Mac Jones could have done all of that as well.

Didn't manage to get any of that done this past one though, did he? And the guy that beat him this last time, he don't do scrambles.

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Originally posted by eastie:
yeah, just like the last Super Bowl when Mahomes scrambled and won...wait, never mind.

You do realize the only TD that Mahomes scored in the 1st 3 Quarters was his option RUN that was set up by his scramble on 3rd and 11 where Ward blew him up right? Not to mention he scrambled for another 1st on 3rd and 9 where Bosa almost sacked him and he scrambled for 16 on a 2nd and 19.

But yeah, Mac Jones could have done all of that as well.

Didn't manage to get any of that done this past one though, did he? And the guy that beat him this last time, he don't do scrambles.

You switch QBs and put Mahomes on the Bucs and Brady on the Chiefs. Who wins?

Originally posted by 49ers808:

The people I talk to think it's Lance or Fields.

I'll just leave it at that. https://t.co/ij2nEwUSZD

— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) April 18, 2021

Benjamin Albright is trash. I don't pay attention to garbage he spits out.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

The people I talk to think it's Lance or Fields.

I'll just leave it at that. https://t.co/ij2nEwUSZD

— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) April 18, 2021

Benjamin Albright is trash. I don't pay attention to garbage he spits out.

How so?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 16_to_80:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 16_to_80:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Man I can't wait to see Fields throwing balls to Aiyuk/Debo/Kittle and how McDaniels and Kyle can take this running game to even a higher level

kyle has never had a QB as talented as Fields.

Get Fields, add some OL talent and DBs to groom and we have something special in the works.

Gonna be amazing. I hope we can land either Najee Harris, Dyami Brown, or Terrace Marshall Jr. In the 2nd or in a trade up into the 1st.

Just did this mock the other day would love to see something like it.

I would be so happy if it played out like this.

If Brown is there, I would be pumped...I would hope that we get more than one CB in this draft though.

overall wouldn't be upset.

I want Dyami Brown. Wanted him for months.

Fields and Brown is a home run.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by tankle104:
but do you think Mahommes is a fair comparison for any QB prospect? Mahommes also has one of the most special passing abilities ever. He makes throws that are just unbelievable, every game. He has set records in his first few seasons etc.

My whole point is that I would take a special passing talent over a special running talent that can throw. I am not saying fields cant throw or anything like that - just making a general point. I'm going to root for and support whoever we select. The only Qb I would be disappointed in if we selected would be Lance, would still support him though.

As a prospect Fields is light years ahead of Mahomes coming out of Texas Tech. FIelds is literally a once in a generation prospect. That does not mean he is perfect & will not need to be coached in the NFL. But if he comes close to maxing out he is a top 5 QB easily.

I agree. How do you keep the most physically gifted QB in the draft hungry and with a Chip on his shoulders?

Tell him he is the 2nd best since high school, tell him you are gonna stick with the more "experienced" QB at Georgia, let him be one play away from the National Championship as a Sophomore, let him lost the National championship against maybe three best team in college FB history, then let him fall down everyone's draft boards. The final piece of the puzzle would be to tell him that the 49ers have a better chance of winning with Jimmy G, and that there is no way he can learn Shanahan's offense in year one.

It is incredibly rare for anyone that talented to be over looked as much as he has and to have gone through as much adversity before being drafted.

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Originally posted by eastie:
yeah, just like the last Super Bowl when Mahomes scrambled and won...wait, never mind.

You do realize the only TD that Mahomes scored in the 1st 3 Quarters was his option RUN that was set up by his scramble on 3rd and 11 where Ward blew him up right? Not to mention he scrambled for another 1st on 3rd and 9 where Bosa almost sacked him and he scrambled for 16 on a 2nd and 19.

But yeah, Mac Jones could have done all of that as well.

Didn't manage to get any of that done this past one though, did he? And the guy that beat him this last time, he don't do scrambles.

You switch QBs and put Mahomes on the Bucs and Brady on the Chiefs. Who wins?

I think it is pretty obvious that Brady would not have been successful behind that KC line.

The way we talk about QB matchups is always ridiculous, because they're never actually playing each other. Yet we talk about it like the QBs are the only ones that matter in any particular game and like they're directly going against each other.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

The people I talk to think it's Lance or Fields.

I'll just leave it at that. https://t.co/ij2nEwUSZD

— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) April 18, 2021

I hope he's right.

We are dumb as hell if we pass on fields. The jets are too

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

The people I talk to think it's Lance or Fields.

I'll just leave it at that. https://t.co/ij2nEwUSZD

— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) April 18, 2021

Benjamin Albright is trash. I don't pay attention to garbage he spits out.

Nobody cares and if you don't then don't take nothing from it. This is for anyone else that may think otherwise

Originally posted by Jcool:
As a prospect Fields is light years ahead of Mahomes coming out of Texas Tech. FIelds is literally a once in a generation prospect. That does not mean he is perfect & will not need to be coached in the NFL. But if he comes close to maxing out he is a top 5 QB easily.

WTF?

Got a feelings fields could be a jet