49ers Draft Board @#13

mike86 · 2020-03-29T08:18:22-07:00

1. OL Tristan Wirfs Iowa 6'5" 320 To me, OL is the 49ers one screaming need coming into 2020. If there's one position group responsible for the SB loss, I would blame the interior OL. Solidifying that spot and beginning to plan for Staley's inevitable retirement has to be a priority with one of these first round picks. Enter Wirfs. He's one of the freakiest OL prospects to come into the league in a long time. The athleticism, toughness and technique are all there. He can play either tackle or guard spot and ultimately will supplant Joe as the team's LT. I highly doubt he's on the board at #13, but if he is, my hunch is the 49ers would be doing backflips. 2. WR Jerry Jeudy Alabama 6'1" 193 It's easy to pencil in Jeudy to the Niners here. He's probably the most complete WR prospect we've seen in years - certainly since Amari Cooper - and it's scary to imagine what Kyle Shanahan's O would like with Jeudy as a true WR1. 3. DT Derrick Brown Auburn 6'5" 326 This is a bad bad man. Brown is an absolute game-wrecker who's dominated the SEC for years. With rare power and explosiveness, Brown is a plug and play DT who would make the 49ers forget about Defo pretty quickly. 4. OL Jedrick Wills Alabama 6'4" 312 Wills isn't the freaky athlete that Wirfs is and doesn't have as high a ceiling but he's arguably more consistent. He combines power, athleticism, and a nasty temperament and he should start from day one inside and then kick outside to either OT spot. 5. DT Javon Kinlaw S. Carolina 6'6" 324 To me, this is where things get more interesting as the remaining players on the board have flaws and aren't as sure of bets as the first four on the list. The choice between Kinlaw and Lamb is really a coin flip, but I put the DT above simply because the depth of this WR class is elite while there really isn't another interior lineman that gets me excited after Kinlaw. In Kinlaw, the 49ers get a near carbon copy of Buckner: extremely long-limbed agile interior DL who can dominate at the point of attack. Kinlaw is more raw coming out of college than Defo and his effort isn't always consistent, but he has potentially even more upside because of his explosiveness of the ball. 6. WR CeeDee Lamb Oklahoma 6'2" 198 Lamb is a silky-smooth WR who gets open, catches the ball consistently and can make people look foolish in space. In college he was a big play waiting to happen. I do worry about his explosiveness in the pros and if he'll be able to replicate his RAC capabilities. Moreover, I'm always nervous drafting a WR from the Big12, simply because they don't need to run a lot of NFL routes nor do they go up against a lot of press man coverage. Lamb is high risk but potentially very high reward. 7. Trade back After Lamb and Kinlaw, it's hard to justify sticking at #13 because I think the 49ers can get much better value by trading back into the late teens or even early 20s. I see a pretty big drop off in talent after the top ~12 players but there are a lot of gems to be had in the picks 16-50 range. Package #13 to move 5-10 spots back and pick up and extra 2nd and 3rd/4th round pick. 8. CB CJ Henderson Florida 6'1" 204 If the 49ers can't find a trade partner, I roll the dice on CJ Henderson who may be the most physically gifted corner in the draft. With a big, strong frame and 4.3 speed, Henderson has all the traits to be a shutdown CB. 9. WR Henry Ruggs III Alabama 5'11" 188 There's no doubt that Ruggs + Shanahan = fireworks. With that said, Ruggs is more of a chess piece (or offensive weapon - "OW" - in John Lynch parlance). If you're picking a WR in the first half of the round 1, you want a bonafide #1. Ruggs is an exceptional talent who could become the second coming of Tyreke Hill, but I rather trade back, get more picks and take a shot on someone like Jalen Reagor in late round 1 / early round 2. That feels like better value. 10. OT Andrew Thomas Georgia 6'5" 315 Thomas is an excellent OT prospect but I don't see him being as good of a fit for the 49ers scheme. He doesn't move as well as Wirfs or Wills and doesn't have the versatility to kick inside for a year or two. I recognize the talent, but feel there are better fits the 49ers can get later in round 1 or round 2, like Ezra Cleveland. Other Favorite Prospects for Late 1st, 2nd and 3rd Rounds OLs Ezra Cleveland Boise St., Lloyd Cushenberry III LSU, Cesar Ruiz Michigan WRs Brandon Aiyuk ASU, Jalen Reagor TCU, Michael Pittman USC, Laviska Shenault Colorado CBs: Jaylen Johnson Utah, Trevon Diggs Alabama, AJ Terrell Clemson, Kristian Fulton LSU

Mar 29, 2020 at 1:52 PM

FL9er
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Nice list. I'd like to see some of our draft experts in here do the same.

Mar 29, 2020 at 2:37 PM

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Props for putting that together. I'd be surprised if Kyle didn't have Ruggs much higher, especially after seeing what Hill did against our defense.

Mar 29, 2020 at 2:49 PM

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Wirfs to me is McGlinchey 2.0 A dominant run blocker that is shaky as a pass blocker and really best suited to play on the right side. Thomas IMO is the best all around tackle, a guy who can run and pass block at a high level and could fit either on the left or the right side in the NFL. I also think you could easily move him to guard for a season or until Staley retires and then have him be a long term starter at left tackle.

Brown really isn't a great fit in this scheme and I'm not sure that I see them at all being interested. Look at the DL's they've met or been in contact with, they tend to be smaller, quicker, fast penetrating guys. Brown in many ways would be like a fish out of water in this defense.

I also don't think that Shanahan puts Lamb over Ruggs.

Mar 29, 2020 at 4:02 PM

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Originally posted by FL9er:
Nice list. I'd like to see some of our draft experts in here do the same.

No draft expert but i'll list mine. Not as in depth and mine is based on long term versus just tryiong to get back to the SB.

1. Trade down to the 18-22 range. In my personal opinion, this teams need more picks to help stay dominant for the coming years.

2. K'Lavon Chaisson. Ford was hurt when we got him. While we had him. We can get out of his contract after this season. Maybe even trading Ford. Having Chaisson and Bosa for 3 years on rookie deals would be awesome. Throw in Armstead already signed for 5 years we are set for the next 4 years.

3. Yetur Gross-Matos- See Chaisson

4. Khristian Fulton- Moseley stepped and played ok. But I'd have him as a CB3 and ready to go when need be as opposed to starter. Especially with Saleh doing a whole lot of blitzing and leaving his guys on islands in crucial situations.

5. CJ Henderson- see Fulton.

6. Josh Jones- With us moving Brunskill to G we now have no backup at T and Staley will be hanging them up soon. So depth for 2020. starter 2021.

Other favorite prospects late 1st early to mid 2nd

Denzel Mims, Brandon Ayiuk, Jalen Raegor, Jeff Gladney, Ross Blacklock, Julian Okwara, AJ Terrell, Ceasar Ruiz

late 2nd

Prince Tega Wanogho, Justin Madibuke, Cutis Weaver, Matt Hennessy, Jonah Jackson

3rd round

Devin Duvernay, Alton Robinson, Ben Bartch, Michael Ojemudia, Larrell Murchinson, Cameron Dantzler, Bryce Hopkins

4th-5th

Kenny Wilkes, Derrek Tuszka, Lynn Bowden, John Hightower, Bryce Huff,Mitchell Wilcox, Joe Reed, Khaleke Hudson,Keith Ismael, Lavert Hill

7th round flyers & UDFA

Richie Grant, Cedric Wilcots, Tino Ellis, Jordan Fehr, Gabe Nabers

Mar 29, 2020 at 6:56 PM

NYniner85
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@13 for me as of now

1. Either Bama boy
2. Lamb
3. Trade down
4. Wirfs/Wills/Thomas
5. Kinlaw

[ Edited by NYniner85 on Mar 29, 2020 at 6:57 PM ]

Mar 29, 2020 at 7:15 PM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
@13 for me as of now

1. Either Bama boy
2. Lamb
3. Trade down
4. Wirfs/Wills/Thomas
5. Kinlaw

I'm pretty close but I'd switch "trade down with the O line guys and possibly put them in front of Lamb.

Mar 29, 2020 at 8:38 PM

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It is pretty clear to me that we need to trade down. We need a starting WR, a starting OL, a CB that is capable of starting, and a rotational defensive lineman. If we stay at 13, we need to fulfill ones of those needs. Guys that start instantly are Jeudy and Wills. I dont see value in taking a DL or CB so early.

In an ideal world, we double trade back. Back to 15 with the Broncos, who have three third rounders and may be needing to move up a few spots to help Drew Lock with a WR or OT, and just as we are hoping someone would fall to 13, they know they wont be there at 15. And then once again with the Vikings at 25, who have 2 firsts, a second, and two thirds. Or back to 26 with the Dolphins who have alot of draft capital and need impact players, rather than 14 picks.

turn the 13 into 15 and 83, and the 15 into 25 and 58. End up with 25, 31, 58, 83. if we came away with something like Mims, Ruiz, Diggs, Rakewon Davis. Use the late picks to fill out the roster.

Mar 29, 2020 at 8:53 PM

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Do we need a bunch of depth players?

Or

Do we need playmakers?

I think we could find two playmakers at # 13 & probably #31. I don't think we need a bunch of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round players. Just look at Lynch's good picks, they seem to come from rounds 1, 5, 6, and 7.

that is exactly what we have now, with a bonus in the first round.

Mar 29, 2020 at 8:54 PM

glorydayz
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Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by FL9er:
Nice list. I'd like to see some of our draft experts in here do the same.

No draft expert but i'll list mine. Not as in depth and mine is based on long term versus just tryiong to get back to the SB.

1. Trade down to the 18-22 range. In my personal opinion, this teams need more picks to help stay dominant for the coming years.

2. K'Lavon Chaisson. Ford was hurt when we got him. While we had him. We can get out of his contract after this season. Maybe even trading Ford. Having Chaisson and Bosa for 3 years on rookie deals would be awesome. Throw in Armstead already signed for 5 years we are set for the next 4 years.

3. Yetur Gross-Matos- See Chaisson

4. Khristian Fulton- Moseley stepped and played ok. But I'd have him as a CB3 and ready to go when need be as opposed to starter. Especially with Saleh doing a whole lot of blitzing and leaving his guys on islands in crucial situations.

5. CJ Henderson- see Fulton.

6. Josh Jones- With us moving Brunskill to G we now have no backup at T and Staley will be hanging them up soon. So depth for 2020. starter 2021.

Other favorite prospects late 1st early to mid 2nd

Denzel Mims, Brandon Ayiuk, Jalen Raegor, Jeff Gladney, Ross Blacklock, Julian Okwara, AJ Terrell, Ceasar Ruiz

late 2nd

Prince Tega Wanogho, Justin Madibuke, Cutis Weaver, Matt Hennessy, Jonah Jackson

3rd round

Devin Duvernay, Alton Robinson, Ben Bartch, Michael Ojemudia, Larrell Murchinson, Cameron Dantzler, Bryce Hopkins

4th-5th

Kenny Wilkes, Derrek Tuszka, Lynn Bowden, John Hightower, Bryce Huff,Mitchell Wilcox, Joe Reed, Khaleke Hudson,Keith Ismael, Lavert Hill

7th round flyers & UDFA

Richie Grant, Cedric Wilcots, Tino Ellis, Jordan Fehr, Gabe Nabers

Do we trade #13 for more picks next year or this year?

Mar 29, 2020 at 9:05 PM

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Originally posted by glorydayz:
Do we need a bunch of depth players?

Or

Do we need playmakers?

I think we could find two playmakers at # 13 & probably #31. I don't think we need a bunch of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round players. Just look at Lynch's good picks, they seem to come from rounds 1, 5, 6, and 7.

that is exactly what we have now, with a bonus in the first round.

We need impact players next year. Ruggs is a playmaker, and I love the guy, but is he a #1 WR from the beginning? Does he play in 1 and 2 WR sets? How many touches does he get a game? 4? Does Jimmy even have the deep accuracy to take advantage? Rather have a starting offensive lineman and starting CB and a big bodied possession WR. Guys who are on the field nearly every down. Someone who can fight off a press and get a first on third on 8 on a slant rant. Mims or Shenulat is fine. The window is smaller than you think. I'm sure the Rams and Eagles thought they would be back next year having good teams and young quaterbacks. So I agree with you about stockpiling depth, but getting guys that can help get us back to the SB and those guys can certainly come from the late first and second round like Deebo did last year.

Mar 29, 2020 at 9:07 PM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
@13 for me as of now

1. Either Bama boy
2. Lamb
3. Trade down
4. Wirfs/Wills/Thomas
5. Kinlaw

Same, but I'd put swap and put Thomas 3 and trade down 4

Mar 29, 2020 at 9:24 PM

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1 - Who's left of Jeudy, Ruggs or Lamb
2 - Brown or Kinlaw
3 - Wirfs
4 - Thomas
5 - Trade down

[ Edited by mayo49 on Mar 29, 2020 at 9:32 PM ]

Mar 30, 2020 at 4:33 AM

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NYniner85
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Originally posted by glorydayz:
Do we need a bunch of depth players?

Or

Do we need playmakers?

I think we could find two playmakers at # 13 & probably #31. I don't think we need a bunch of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round players. Just look at Lynch's good picks, they seem to come from rounds 1, 5, 6, and 7.

that is exactly what we have now, with a bonus in the first round.

I agree we need playmakers, if they can come away with an extra 3rd I think that's more than enough extra draft capital...this draft is pretty deep with talent.

Mar 30, 2020 at 4:41 AM

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Originally posted by glorydayz:
Do we need a bunch of depth players?

Or

Do we need playmakers?

I think we could find two playmakers at # 13 & probably #31. I don't think we need a bunch of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round players. Just look at Lynch's good picks, they seem to come from rounds 1, 5, 6, and 7.

that is exactly what we have now, with a bonus in the first round.

You can't just talk about Lynch's good picks in rounds 1, 5, 6, 7 without bringing up his bad picks in said rounds. Or so I've been told.