Not sold on 49ers picking a WR with 13th Pick

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Pretty much a lock at this point that we'll go receiver at 13

I wouldn't count on that although it's a possibility . I think there's quality wr to be had at pick 31 as well. I mean I'll take Mims, Aiyuk, or Shenault at 31 or in the 2nd if we trade out of it and Brown, Kinlaw, or Thomas with the 13th. Ultimately I think that's a wiser strategy, but we gotta see how the picks lay out. If Jeudy is there, I could see us just saying f**k it. Or Ruggs st 13 and Raekwon at 31, I'll take that.

Trade up for Simmons !!!

Originally posted by wailers15:
Trade up for Simmons !!!

no thx

Only other position i'd be ok with is tackle at 13.

Valid points by everyone.

In response to the WR at #13 debate, how does the top 3 WR make the 9ers WR group instantly credible? The loss of Sanders hurts, but to say a rookie is going to come in and instantly fill the gap for Sanders, is as credible as saying a rookie DT is going to instantly replace Buckners production.

Even though I am an advocate for reinforcing the Lines, I wouldn't be pissed if JL and KS go with WR at #13. It IS a need. If they think a WR is the BPA at that spot, I would trust them.

But just watching how, who, and when they draft someone, I would bet they're not going WR #13. I will take all the if I'm wrong.

I don't see too many ways that they can go wrong at 13. Whether they draft a D linemen or O lineman or WR depends on how the draft goes and who is there at 13. Even a trade back wouldn't be terrible and could actually work to their benefit.

One thing I'm sure of. No matter what we do there will be fans that don't like it.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't see too many ways that they can go wrong at 13. Whether they draft a D linemen or O lineman or WR depends on how the draft goes and who is there at 13. Even a trade back wouldn't be terrible and could actually work to their benefit.

One thing I'm sure of. No matter what we do there will be fans that don't like it.

Nice short summary and very true!

Originally posted by 9ers4u:
Valid points by everyone.

In response to the WR at #13 debate, how does the top 3 WR make the 9ers WR group instantly credible? The loss of Sanders hurts, but to say a rookie is going to come in and instantly fill the gap for Sanders, is as credible as saying a rookie DT is going to instantly replace Buckners production.

Even though I am an advocate for reinforcing the Lines, I wouldn't be pissed if JL and KS go with WR at #13. It IS a need. If they think a WR is the BPA at that spot, I would trust them.

But just watching how, who, and when they draft someone, I would bet they're not going WR #13. I will take all the if I'm wrong.

Buckner was All-Pro last year. Not to diminish what Sanders did, because our receivers did take off when he joined the team. But I don't think it's a stretch to think a rookie receiver would come closer to replacing Sanders than a rookie DT would come to replacing Buckner.

Also, the goal isn't really to simply replace Sanders. It's to add another element to the offense that we don't already have on the team. It would be nice to have a feared passing attack to go along with our running game. Also, did you see the rookie receivers across the league in 2019? There were several who stepped in and showed out.

I will say this, I think receiver is a lock. But even if they don't go in that direction, I'm glad we are in a position to get a quality player that can start from day 1.

Will drop this here as well as to why I believe unless it's their absolute #1 WR sitting there @ #13,....there's very little chance in us drafting a WR @ that spot...

I just dont think we traded into the 1st round for the sake of taking more of a gamble....

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Pretty much a lock at this point that we'll go receiver at 13

you're settin' yourself up for disappointment there buddy

Originally posted by random49er:
Will drop this here as well as to why I believe unless it's their absolute #1 WR sitting there @ #13,....there's very little chance in us drafting a WR @ that spot...

I just dont think we traded into the 1st round for the sake of taking more a gamble....

This is good historical information in terms of what is more of a sure bet and I like the way you worded your statement. Unless it is their number 1 receiver at 13 is a good way of stating it.

13th picks rarely go to a team with a roster as good as ours. You're going BPA with an eye on 2021-22 to be a solid blue chip contributor, regardless of our SB window.
Injuries and roster attrition are a given. What seems solid now begs for attention with a long view.

You probably won't find Lawrence Taylor, Anthony Munoz or Jerry Rice at 13 next month, but to say only this WR at the omission of all other possibilities is too limiting.

I'm open to whoever the FO thinks is BPA. Wr is sexy and I'll be stoked if we get one at 13, but don't have my heart set on it.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by random49er:
Will drop this here as well as to why I believe unless it's their absolute #1 WR sitting there @ #13,....there's very little chance in us drafting a WR @ that spot...

I just dont think we traded into the 1st round for the sake of taking more a gamble....

This is good historical information in terms of what is more of a sure bet and I like the way you worded your statement. Unless it is their number 1 receiver at 13 is a good way of stating it.

Analytics and stats are always helpful but you can't follow them blindly.

A HC known for his offensive brilliance, drafting a WR in a class considered to be very strong isn't the same thing as a defensive minded HC with an uninspired offense drafting a WR in the first round in a weak WR class.

There are certain situations which certainly don't guarantee a slam dunk pick...but they definitely help improve the odds of success.

Offensive skill players in Kyle's offense definitely get a boost. Even Dante Pettis who had an awfully disappointing second season didn't fail due to his talent.

Think of it this way, if Kyle thinks someone is good enough as a skill position player to use the 13th pick on...odds are they're pretty damn good and he's going to have some fun scheming for them.

Guys like that typically go with players they cannot scheme to be good. Shame Dante didn't have the go get it attitude last year, I'm sure Kyle is taking that personally so we'll see what happens with him but if he thinks a WR is worth the pick at 13. I like our odds.

Originally posted by genus49:
Analytics and stats are always helpful but you can't follow them blindly.

A HC known for his offensive brilliance, drafting a WR in a class considered to be very strong isn't the same thing as a defensive minded HC with an uninspired offense drafting a WR in the first round in a weak WR class.

Therein lies the key word. Who's doing the considering?

Study draft history and you will find a plethora of classes considered weak that were actually very strong, and vice versa.

To legitimately discuss NFL Draft talk, I believe that you have to 1st admit to yourself that much of it is a crapshoot.

We can then work from there.