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Not sold on 49ers picking a WR with 13th Pick

Matt Bowen from ESPN is saying that Michael Pittman would be a good fit for us. I can't disagree with that. And he is not going to be a first round pick. We could trade down with the 31st and still get him in the second round. He could even fall to the 3rd round.

"There are a lot of mock drafts out there that have the San Francisco 49ers selecting a wide receiver with the No. 13 overall pick. It's a glaring need on the roster with the departure of Emmanuel Sanders, but is it the team's biggest need and the best spot to bolster the position?

Matt Bowen of ESPN recently looked at the top receivers available in this month's draft and placed each with a team that seems to be a perfect fit. It's a deep group of receivers with talent that can be had even into the mid and later rounds. That's why Bowen feels San Francisco can afford to address another position at No. 13 and use its later first-round pick, No. 31 overall, on a wideout.

So which pairing does Bowen see as an ideal fit between player and team based on scheme and team needs? That would be the 6-foot-4 and 223-pound Michael Pittman Jr. out of USC, a physical route runner with a big frame who could be used as a vertical target on one-on-one matchups.

"In Kyle Shanahan's scheme, Pittman could produce quickly for an offense that wants the ball thrown between the numbers with Jimmy Garoppolo," writes Bowen. "Think of the in-cuts with play-action and the deep curls off max-protection, along with run-pass options and leveled reads for Garoppolo. That's where Pittman can use his frame to body up defensive backs and produce after the catch. He's an ascending prospect with the physical traits to fit in Shanahan's heavily schemed passing game."

The majority of mock drafts have the 49ers selected Jerry Jeudy or Henry Ruggs of Alabama, or CeeDee Lamb of Oklahoma at No. 13. Bowens sees other teams as ideal fits for those three receivers, matching Jeudy with the New York Jets, Lamb with the Las Vegas Raiders, and Ruggs with the Denver Broncos. That last one would mean San Francisco would have to pass on Ruggs should he still be on the draft board because the Broncos pick at No. 15 overall, two selections after the 49ers. Of course, this list is touted to be more about ideal fits than projecting landing spots.

As for his college production, Pittman caught 101 passes for 1,275 yards with 11 touchdowns through 13 games as a senior with the Trojans. He totaled over twice that with 2,519 receiving yards and 19 touchdowns in his four seasons at USC."

Originally posted by NCommand:
I see his point. I rewatched the season and Goodwin was huge for Garoppolo when healthy at the X with Deebo at Z. Throw in Benjamin, Hurd and Taylor at the slot, he's got a solid point.

But we can STILL draft another X in this very deep draft to learn behind Goodwin. That's what Pettis did and then was featured after the bye-week in 2018. Deebo took off the second half of last year.

Kyle is still trying to get a 2nd TE too which also reduces the snap count needed from the X.
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Originally posted by Vancouver49er:
Agreed on this one. Unless something insane like a Chase Young or Okudah falls to 13. In which case, not trade and take one of them. The 31st is a trade down pick as far as I can see.
Originally posted by dhp318:
I would love to see the 49ers trade down at both spots. Draft multiple receivers in the 2nd round, pick up a CB and OL. Dream scenario for me.

One thing. You don't just trade down. It depends on the deal you are offered. For #13 it mat be that one of the top guys have slipped because other teams are panicking and taking qb is for example. So you may be offered a good deal but then, maybe you want that top guy? For #31 other teams may offer a trade so that they get the benefit of the 5th year, but it depends on the deal, maybe you want to keep the 5th year yourself. The point is, unless you have Mike Ditka on the phone or unless another team is panic-trading up for a qb, I don't know that trades are always that cut-and-dried. Sometimes the other team are idiots but not often.
Originally posted by Vancouver49er:
Matt Bowen from ESPN is saying that Michael Pittman would be a good fit for us. I can't disagree with that. And he is not going to be a first round pick. We could trade down with the 31st and still get him in the second round. He could even fall to the 3rd round.

"There are a lot of mock drafts out there that have the San Francisco 49ers selecting a wide receiver with the No. 13 overall pick. It's a glaring need on the roster with the departure of Emmanuel Sanders, but is it the team's biggest need and the best spot to bolster the position?

Matt Bowen of ESPN recently looked at the top receivers available in this month's draft and placed each with a team that seems to be a perfect fit. It's a deep group of receivers with talent that can be had even into the mid and later rounds. That's why Bowen feels San Francisco can afford to address another position at No. 13 and use its later first-round pick, No. 31 overall, on a wideout.

So which pairing does Bowen see as an ideal fit between player and team based on scheme and team needs? That would be the 6-foot-4 and 223-pound Michael Pittman Jr. out of USC, a physical route runner with a big frame who could be used as a vertical target on one-on-one matchups.

"In Kyle Shanahan's scheme, Pittman could produce quickly for an offense that wants the ball thrown between the numbers with Jimmy Garoppolo," writes Bowen. "Think of the in-cuts with play-action and the deep curls off max-protection, along with run-pass options and leveled reads for Garoppolo. That's where Pittman can use his frame to body up defensive backs and produce after the catch. He's an ascending prospect with the physical traits to fit in Shanahan's heavily schemed passing game."

The majority of mock drafts have the 49ers selected Jerry Jeudy or Henry Ruggs of Alabama, or CeeDee Lamb of Oklahoma at No. 13. Bowens sees other teams as ideal fits for those three receivers, matching Jeudy with the New York Jets, Lamb with the Las Vegas Raiders, and Ruggs with the Denver Broncos. That last one would mean San Francisco would have to pass on Ruggs should he still be on the draft board because the Broncos pick at No. 15 overall, two selections after the 49ers. Of course, this list is touted to be more about ideal fits than projecting landing spots.

As for his college production, Pittman caught 101 passes for 1,275 yards with 11 touchdowns through 13 games as a senior with the Trojans. He totaled over twice that with 2,519 receiving yards and 19 touchdowns in his four seasons at USC."

Originally posted by NCommand:
I see his point. I rewatched the season and Goodwin was huge for Garoppolo when healthy at the X with Deebo at Z. Throw in Benjamin, Hurd and Taylor at the slot, he's got a solid point.

But we can STILL draft another X in this very deep draft to learn behind Goodwin. That's what Pettis did and then was featured after the bye-week in 2018. Deebo took off the second half of last year.

Kyle is still trying to get a 2nd TE too which also reduces the snap count needed from the X.

Thanks for that.
Originally posted by Vancouver49er:
Matt Bowen from ESPN is saying that Michael Pittman would be a good fit for us. I can't disagree with that. And he is not going to be a first round pick. We could trade down with the 31st and still get him in the second round. He could even fall to the 3rd round.


I love Michael Pittman.

If we had Pittman during the Kap years, we would still have Kap at QB and likely more SBs.

I truly think Pittman is a one man wrecking ball against goal line defense. That body, and that catch radius is amazing. Kap was a better Fade thrower then the offense made him appear, we simply didn't have the WRs for it.

Pittman puts gobs of back shoulder and fade threat into the offense in short yardage. Put him at SE, you add stress to the safety's trying to find and control kittle, all while keeping the quick slant threat from Deebo.

The dude straight up fits, the guy run blocks well, especially in space (think screens), plus he finds his way open when plays go to crap. A real security blanket when things are not at their best.

I think its what we all want hurd to grow into.

If the 49ers went some other position early and took Pittman late, i would be ecstatic. I don't want Pittman over say Ruggs....but I do want Pittman.
That wouldn't be a bad choice if we went O line with #13. For those that say we already have Hurd who is similar, I say fine. No problem having 2 guys that play the same way in case one gets hurt.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
That wouldn't be a bad choice if we went O line with #13. For those that say we already have Hurd who is similar, I say fine. No problem having 2 guys that play the same way in case one gets hurt.

Hurd is a project, Pittman is a real world legit big man at WR.

I love Hurd and want him to be Ricky Watters 2.0 ...Hurd is closer to a short yardage version of Megatron.
Originally posted by Vancouver49er:
Agreed on this one. Unless something insane like a Chase Young or Okudah falls to 13. In which case, not trade and take one of them. The 31st is a trade down pick as far as I can see.
Originally posted by dhp318:
I would love to see the 49ers trade down at both spots. Draft multiple receivers in the 2nd round, pick up a CB and OL. Dream scenario for me.

Depending on what happens in the draft, I happen to think both slots are potential trade down candidates for a team that needs more picks.
Great with Pittman.

13 for 25 and 58. Take Ruiz, Blacklock, Pittman and lets go to work.
I wonder how our picks would be changed if the season were to start 6 weeks late? Or ...not at all? I don't think that, but i sure have a hard time imagining 72,000 fans screaming in the stadium if July rolls around and there is still sheltering in place, masks, and so on.

IF....IF... the hydorxychloroquine + Zithromax works in the 1000 pts test trialed in NYC, then i firmly believe the season goes on as normal. But if the combo doesn't work, then i believe we have to accept there will be a shortened season, and if that "shortened" means only 8 games...or say 6? What would we do? That stuff is so bizarre, it hurts to think about it. A lot depends when we get on the backside of the bell shaped curve.
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Pittman = JJ Stokes
Originally posted by mayo49:
Pittman = JJ Stokes

Stokes was largely considered a bust but thats because he was a top 10 pick. A late second rounder or early third rounder giving you the same stats would be solid. I'd take prime Stokes in this offense next year. Once he got healthy he put a couple 60 catch, 700 yard seasons together back to back. If Pittman is prime Stokes and is a redzone threat and contributes as a blocker downfield, I'll take it. He seems NFL ready to come in and help more than some other outside WRs in his draft range.
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Pittman = JJ Stokes

I have that same hunch.
I watched a lot of USC game and I'm not a huge fan of Pittman. I don't hate him just not a big fan. Maybe it was USC and he will be better in the NFL.
If a player they really want is there at pick 13 they should draft him. I do not want them to trade down just to trade down. Example Say Ruggs is at 13 and for some reason they really don't want him. Jacksonville really like him and offer pick 20 and 42. Hell ya make the trade. Other then something like that I would not make a big trade down. Move down 2 pick and add a third great. If he is there and they really Love Ruggs at 13 draft him, I have said I like Jedrick Wills if he make it to 13 I hope they draft him. If for some crazy reason Jeff Okudah is at 13 draft him. There is something about Justin Jefferson that I like do not draft him at 13 but if they trade down OK.
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