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  • Kyzen
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
RBs staying in college any longer then they have to is a dumb thing if your goal is to be a NFL player and get to that big contract



A big gamble IMO, but he is a refreshing sight in this day in age when it's all about a "me first" mindset. Hats off to his integrity and his wisdom to persue his degree. I'll be rooting for him to have a good season and above all a healthy season.
Originally posted by Kyzen:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
RBs staying in college any longer then they have to is a dumb thing if your goal is to be a NFL player and get to that big contract



A big gamble IMO, but he is a refreshing sight in this day in age when it's all about a "me first" mindset. Hats off to his integrity and his wisdom to persue his degree. I'll be rooting for him to have a good season and above all a healthy season.

Agreed
Good for Etienne. I hope it doesn't turn sour for him.
Originally posted by GoldBrick:
The 49ers' Draft hinges almost entirely on a handful of key personnel decisions this offseason. Magic 8-ball says:

# 1) Extend Kittle. He deserves to be the richest TE in football, and his contract will look like a bargain in a few years. Extend Williams and Mostert as well.
# 2) Cut McKinnon. Don't throw good money after bad money. Goodwin too. Those moves alone free up over $8M next year ($13.5M minus dead money).
# 3) Cut Coleman. He's a good back, but Shanahan does not need to pay a rotational guy $5M per year when he's getting 5+ yards/carry out of UDFAs. Coleman's deal can (and should) be voided this offseason with no cap hit. Bring him back on a team-friendly multiyear deal if he's interested.
# 4) If Lynch slaps a second-round tender on Brieda and Borne, I don't think another team will bite on either. Good value retaining both.
# 5) I'd love to keep Sanders in the building on a team-friendly multiyear deal assuming he wants to stay in SF and chase another ring or two before he hangs them up. If he wants to chase $10M/year instead, let him walk.
# 6) Dee Ford vs. AA. Can't afford to keep them both. Ford's contract is front-loaded and incentive rich, meaning the $87M sticker price was largely an illusion. He has struggled to stay healthy, and the niners would only accrue $6.4M in dead cap if they cut him. Problem is, it's clear how much his presence is needed outside to force favorable matchups for Bosa, Buckner and the others. AA, meanwhile, is about to get PAID. He's only 26. He's outstanding vs run and pass. Someone will pay this dude like he's Aaron Donald. So my guess is we keep the team-friendly Dee Ford deal in the hope he's healthier next season.
# 7) Resign Ward and extend Tartt, neither of whom should break the bank.

Draft Day needs would then look something like:

1) Offensive line: Is our future LT on the roster? Is Richburg's injury history concerning? Is Person's neck problem chronic? Do Bruskill, Skule, or Garland project as future starters? Shon Coleman?
2) Safety: Harris is a thumper, but he's a clear a liability in coverage. Ward and Tartt have concerning injury histories. What should we expect from Moore?
3) TE: I appreciate Dwelley's versatility, and I think that earns him a spot on the 53 next year, but imagine the mismatches Shanahan could exploit with a stud TE opposite Kittle.
4) LB: Greenlaw was a gem. We could use a couple more unless you're comfortable potentially starting Al-Shaair or Nzeocha.
5) RB: If McKinnon and Coleman both leave, we will need another horse in the stable.
6) WR: Will Sanders be back? What should we expect from Hurd and Taylor coming off IR?

I agree with all except 6. I think we somehow keep AA, though I won't be surprised if he is gone. Someone will definitely overpay. We'd be better off slapping the franchise tag on and trading him then just letting him walk. I can see a team giving up a 2nd for AA (higher than the 3rd round max comp we'd get for him).

But again, I think we keep AA and the defense remains in tact until 2021, then the bubble bursts.

I wanted to draft someone for most of our position groups.

1. Speedy edge rusher
2. Deep threat receiver that has the work ethic to become more than a one trick pony
3. Guard/center (what will become of Richburg?)
4. Linebacker (to push anyone not named Alexander, Warner, or Greenlaw potentially off the roster)
5. safety (capable of backing up at both spots)
6. Corner (to compete with Mosely)
7. TE (to play either TE and/or back up at FB. More mismatches created).
8. RB (Coleman replacement)
9. T/G (I think Brunskill should be able to compete for a starting spot. If he makes it, we are going to need to start developing another versatile guy)
10. More of a 3-4 OLB rusher. Still can rush in the wide 9 and has the ability to drop into coverage. I'm thinking one more is needed because I do not expect Ronald Blair to be ready at the start of the season if he is extended.

With a couple of trade downs and really working the boards better in terms of value, I think we can check all these boxes
  • 9moon
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i EXPECT a team like Pittsburgh falling for QB - JORDAN LOVE and I have a feeling that they will move up and trade w/us to draft the kid...

if this doesn't happen, I suggest Lynch to target the player he wants and MOVE UP and give up some of our extra picks in 2021... We need to make this move while the team is still young and allow the new guy to grow with the team..

DO NOT do what Baalke did and try to be the PATRIOTS by TRYING to earn more picks and allow the team to get old and lose some talents WHILE drafting players who are damaged goods when we did not have the DEPT..

WE NEED:

OL - CB - WR
  • Jcool
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going all out for this one

Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Not using a draft pick on a RB when Kyle is finding dudes off the scrapheap and making them look like Terrell Davis.

We still have Jet Mckinnon as well, shouldn't his knee be good by now?

As much as I liked the signing originally I am now doubting he will ever play again.

I'm thinking the same. I would LOVE to have this guys talent on the field, but I'm starting to think his CAREER might be over.
I think added depth behind warner would be a good idea.
Originally posted by 9moon:
i EXPECT a team like Pittsburgh falling for QB - JORDAN LOVE and I have a feeling that they will move up and trade w/us to draft the kid...

if this doesn't happen, I suggest Lynch to target the player he wants and MOVE UP and give up some of our extra picks in 2021... We need to make this move while the team is still young and allow the new guy to grow with the team..

DO NOT do what Baalke did and try to be the PATRIOTS by TRYING to earn more picks and allow the team to get old and lose some talents WHILE drafting players who are damaged goods when we did not have the DEPT..

WE NEED:

OL - CB - WR

Love more than likely goes before pick 31/32.

Zero chance SF moves up and gives up more picks. They're gonna move down at all costs. I think lynch even spoke about it in a podcast.

I have no idea how what Baalke did would have anything to do with how Lynch and Co. have attacked the draft and team building?
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Going to be real interesting how he looks at the combine. Think he probably checks in shorter than that (not that it matters -- see: Troy Polamalu, Bob Sanders, Jimmie Ward, Lamarcus Joyner, etc.). Only thing is he's not in the same league as those guys in terms of explosiveness. Not that's it's impossible, but I'd be very surprised if he ran anything 4.50 or under. Looks like a mid 4.5 guy at most.

Still, what he lacks in elite athleticism, he seems to make up for in football IQ and sound technique.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Feb 10, 2020 at 12:00 PM ]
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Going to be real interesting how he looks at the combine. Think he probably checks in shorter than that (not that it matters -- see: Troy Polamalu, Bob Sanders, Jimmie Ward, Lamarcus Joyner, etc.). Only thing is he's not in the same league as those guys in terms of explosiveness. Not that's it's impossible, but I'd be very surprised if he ran anything 4.50 or under. Looks like a mid 4.5 guy at most.

Still, what he lacks in elite athleticism, he seems to make up for in football IQ and sound technique.

Yeah I agree he looks like he lack that sideline to sideline ability as a FS. He also looks like just a damn good DB kinda reminds me of another hawkeye in Desmond King.
Originally posted by NYniner85:



Sorry though that was his mock draft
[ Edited by Hysterikal on Feb 12, 2020 at 10:22 AM ]
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