"Hog Molly" OL prospects 2020

It's really hard to find O linemen that are good at both run and pass blocking. If there is one available when our name is called, we need to grab him.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

C/RG needs to be priority. I feel like Brunskill could honestly start at either spot. We'll see how he improves in 2020.

Well, technically, he did. Haha. Benton referred to Brunskill as his MVP. The question is, is he a cornerstone player or high quality backup? Because at this stage, we need to improve the starters...not the depth.

He seems like he's on the cusp and should only get better. I feel like he could be a long-term starter almost anywhere on our OL, but it depends on whether he maintains this trajectory or not. We would be wise to not put all our eggs into any one basket (*cough* Richburg recovering *cough*), and that includes relying on Brunskill, even though I expect him to beat out Person.

That seems fair. I'm always looking for clear cornerstones like the no-question Mike McGlinchey. But that's expected when drafted that high. Staley is a 1st. Richburg a high 2nd. Tomlinson was a first but clearly, as a run blocker only. It's past time to invest highly in C/RG. Fingers crossed.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

It's really hard to find O linemen that are good at both run and pass blocking. If there is one available when our name is called, we need to grab him.

This is so true on so many levels.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

C/RG needs to be priority. I feel like Brunskill could honestly start at either spot. We'll see how he improves in 2020.

Well, technically, he did. Haha. Benton referred to Brunskill as his MVP. The question is, is he a cornerstone player or high quality backup? Because at this stage, we need to improve the starters...not the depth.

He seems like he's on the cusp and should only get better. I feel like he could be a long-term starter almost anywhere on our OL, but it depends on whether he maintains this trajectory or not. We would be wise to not put all our eggs into any one basket (*cough* Richburg recovering *cough*), and that includes relying on Brunskill, even though I expect him to beat out Person.

That seems fair. I'm always looking for clear cornerstones like the no-question Mike McGlinchey. But that's expected when drafted that high. Staley is a 1st. Richburg a high 2nd. Tomlinson was a first but clearly, as a run blocker only. It's past time to invest highly in C/RG. Fingers crossed.

I have concerns we'll go money-ball budgeting again with OL and target someone like Bartch, Hilbers, or Runyan in the mid to late rounds as RG competition because.. "You have to be pretty good to beat out __________."



Praying with a trade down we can tap into the top-heavy interior OL class. Ruiz, Cushenberry, Hennessy, Lemieux, Lewis.. etc.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

C/RG needs to be priority. I feel like Brunskill could honestly start at either spot. We'll see how he improves in 2020.

Well, technically, he did. Haha. Benton referred to Brunskill as his MVP. The question is, is he a cornerstone player or high quality backup? Because at this stage, we need to improve the starters...not the depth.

He seems like he's on the cusp and should only get better. I feel like he could be a long-term starter almost anywhere on our OL, but it depends on whether he maintains this trajectory or not. We would be wise to not put all our eggs into any one basket (*cough* Richburg recovering *cough*), and that includes relying on Brunskill, even though I expect him to beat out Person.

Imo I think brunskill is best suited at tackle. long-term that's where I'd like to see him.

I think getting a guy who can play G/C would make sense in the draft. I just don't think our FO sees it the same (at least with a early pick).

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

C/RG needs to be priority. I feel like Brunskill could honestly start at either spot. We'll see how he improves in 2020.

Well, technically, he did. Haha. Benton referred to Brunskill as his MVP. The question is, is he a cornerstone player or high quality backup? Because at this stage, we need to improve the starters...not the depth.

He seems like he's on the cusp and should only get better. I feel like he could be a long-term starter almost anywhere on our OL, but it depends on whether he maintains this trajectory or not. We would be wise to not put all our eggs into any one basket (*cough* Richburg recovering *cough*), and that includes relying on Brunskill, even though I expect him to beat out Person.

Imo I think brunskill is best suited at tackle. long-term that's where I'd like to see him.

I think getting a guy who can play G/C would make sense in the draft. I just don't think our FO sees it the same (at least with a early pick).

I'm right there with you, I honestly see him as a huge possibility as the heir to the LT position after Joe. He's got the length with 34" inch arms, but Joe isn't going anywhere for at least another year or two. So we should start the best 5 OL we've got.

Part of me honestly wonders if we would consider giving reps to Skule at OG. He took his lumps at OT but looked promising at times with flashes, so I don't know if I'd yank him entirely off of OT, but I want to see if he can use his leverage to his advantage inside. Would be nice to have multiple guys who could both play guard or tackle.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

C/RG needs to be priority. I feel like Brunskill could honestly start at either spot. We'll see how he improves in 2020.

Well, technically, he did. Haha. Benton referred to Brunskill as his MVP. The question is, is he a cornerstone player or high quality backup? Because at this stage, we need to improve the starters...not the depth.

He seems like he's on the cusp and should only get better. I feel like he could be a long-term starter almost anywhere on our OL, but it depends on whether he maintains this trajectory or not. We would be wise to not put all our eggs into any one basket (*cough* Richburg recovering *cough*), and that includes relying on Brunskill, even though I expect him to beat out Person.

Imo I think brunskill is best suited at tackle. long-term that's where I'd like to see him.

I think getting a guy who can play G/C would make sense in the draft. I just don't think our FO sees it the same (at least with a early pick).

Yup!

ok tomlinson or person i dont think it matters which one we just have to upgrade that spot. might have to be center if richburg doesnt fully recover. but thats gotta be one of the top priorities this offseason. were fortunate to have a deep and young roster that is very good, that has put us in a position of not having alot of need. we need to use our limited resources to upgrade our few spots of need which is CB and IOL.

pass pro HAS to get better if were gong to have a good offense and want jimmy to move the ball. i dont undertsand this sudden obsession with drafting a safety high. we are fine at safety AND have our best option for moving forward already on the team, jimmie ward. ya i was one of the guys who before last year wanted him gone due to him always being hurt, but he came through this season an played well, him an tartt. we need a fast CB and better pass pro so much more than we need another safety so i dont understand where evreyones getting that thought.

Originally posted by stefano89:

ok tomlinson or person i dont think it matters which one we just have to upgrade that spot. might have to be center if richburg doesnt fully recover. but thats gotta be one of the top priorities this offseason. were fortunate to have a deep and young roster that is very good, that has put us in a position of not having alot of need. we need to use our limited resources to upgrade our few spots of need which is CB and IOL.

pass pro HAS to get better if were gong to have a good offense and want jimmy to move the ball. i dont undertsand this sudden obsession with drafting a safety high. we are fine at safety AND have our best option for moving forward already on the team, jimmie ward. ya i was one of the guys who before last year wanted him gone due to him always being hurt, but he came through this season an played well, him an tartt. we need a fast CB and better pass pro so much more than we need another safety so i dont understand where evreyones getting that thought.

As interchangeable as the S's were this year, requiring an all pro FS to run C3 isn't as critical. And they already used very high capital at S. One's name is Tartt. The other is T.Moore. He's ready. And if not, you have Ward, a former 1st rounder, whom you can buy.

So yeah, the priority should be trading back for: IOL (PP in particular), ER, WR, CB...BPA.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by stefano89:
ok tomlinson or person i dont think it matters which one we just have to upgrade that spot. might have to be center if richburg doesnt fully recover. but thats gotta be one of the top priorities this offseason. were fortunate to have a deep and young roster that is very good, that has put us in a position of not having alot of need. we need to use our limited resources to upgrade our few spots of need which is CB and IOL.

pass pro HAS to get better if were gong to have a good offense and want jimmy to move the ball. i dont undertsand this sudden obsession with drafting a safety high. we are fine at safety AND have our best option for moving forward already on the team, jimmie ward. ya i was one of the guys who before last year wanted him gone due to him always being hurt, but he came through this season an played well, him an tartt. we need a fast CB and better pass pro so much more than we need another safety so i dont understand where evreyones getting that thought.

As interchangeable as the S's were this year, requiring an all pro FS to run C3 isn't as critical. And they already used very high capital at S. One's name is Tartt. The other is T.Moore. He's ready. And if not, you have Ward, a former 1st rounder, whom you can buy.

So yeah, the priority should be trading back for: IOL (PP in particular), ER, WR, CB...BPA.

exactly. and the idea of a big weapon WR to get early in the draft always sounds great. but the fact is wev used 3 second or third rd picks on a WR in the last 2 drafts and only ONE of those players has done anything (deebo,pettis,hurd). time to use resources where we need them more, cant keep wasting them on one position and hope you hit on one every few years.

Originally posted by stefano89:
ok tomlinson or person i dont think it matters which one we just have to upgrade that spot. might have to be center if richburg doesnt fully recover. but thats gotta be one of the top priorities this offseason. were fortunate to have a deep and young roster that is very good, that has put us in a position of not having alot of need. we need to use our limited resources to upgrade our few spots of need which is CB and IOL.

pass pro HAS to get better if were gong to have a good offense and want jimmy to move the ball. i dont undertsand this sudden obsession with drafting a safety high. we are fine at safety AND have our best option for moving forward already on the team, jimmie ward. ya i was one of the guys who before last year wanted him gone due to him always being hurt, but he came through this season an played well, him an tartt. we need a fast CB and better pass pro so much more than we need another safety so i dont understand where evreyones getting that thought.

Tomlinson is better than Person, that's not really debatable IMO. They should find a guy who can play G/C BUT they would more than likely playing at RG unless Richburg can't go (which reportedly he will be).

interior pass-pro needs to improve I don't think you'll have anyone debating you on that. People need to realize it's not as easy as just drafting a dude and sticking him in there though. The jump from college to the NFL in regards to pass-pro is steep.

Unless Ward is willing to give SF a discount, I expect him to be gone. I'm fine with Moore taking over at FS.

Move down and go BPA.

Originally posted by stefano89:
exactly. and the idea of a big weapon WR to get early in the draft always sounds great. but the fact is wev used 3 second or third rd picks on a WR in the last 2 drafts and only ONE of those players has done anything (deebo,pettis,hurd). time to use resources where we need them more, cant keep wasting them on one position and hope you hit on one every few years.

See I don't care about what they spent draft capital on in the past, especially when those players overall haven't panned out. It's like saying you're not gonna keep draft a QB when those past QBs didn't work

End of the day there's still a hole there. It would be different if Hurd/Pettis/Taylor/James were all good productive WRs. Only thing that's true is Deebo will be a starter next yr. Then what?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by stefano89:
exactly. and the idea of a big weapon WR to get early in the draft always sounds great. but the fact is wev used 3 second or third rd picks on a WR in the last 2 drafts and only ONE of those players has done anything (deebo,pettis,hurd). time to use resources where we need them more, cant keep wasting them on one position and hope you hit on one every few years.

See I don't care about what they spent draft capital on in the past, especially when those players overall haven't panned out. It's like saying you're not gonna keep draft a QB when those past QBs didn't work

End of the day there's still a hole there. It would be different if Hurd/Pettis/Taylor/James were all good productive WRs. Only thing that's true is Deebo will be a starter next yr. Then what?

the point is we cant keep neglecting other positions of need to try an shoot for a WR in the second or third rd every single draft. we have other positions that now are bigger priorities. whens the last time we drafted a CB high. i cant remember. and it shows, shermans legs aint there anymore and witherspoon and moseley are good 3rd CBs at best. we need a guy who can be CB2 or CB1 for the future and to compensate for shermans lack of speed. a 2nd or 3rd pick used there would be much more useful than on ANOTHER WR which is a position we have just proven to not be able to draft talent at.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Oregon center Jake Hanson said he has a lot of similarities in his game to #49ers center Weston Richburg.

That's a good high-end comp for him. Seems Hanson understands his game/strengths well.

— Jon Ledyard (@LedyardNFLDraft) February 26, 2020

I'd agree with that comparison. Hansen was rated the best C in the nation as a junior, if I recall, on PFF. Not sure he stacked up as well this year, but he wasn't bad.