WR class 2020

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

I'm working on a mock (spending way too much time on it making spread sheets of cap hits/dead cap til 2022, comping 5 mock drafts etc) and I'll have Seattle taking Mims in the first

They have bigger needs than WR IMO. DE and OT. They only have 3 DE under contract, the best being LJ Collier. They only had 28 sacks all year, second fewest in NFL. That said, resigning Clowney and adding Griffen would rectify that in a hurry. Then the need shifts more to OT, both the top ones will be gone by their pick.
Could see WR, if their pass rush in addressed in FA. Hope it's not Mims.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

I'm working on a mock (spending way too much time on it making spread sheets of cap hits/dead cap til 2022, comping 5 mock drafts etc) and I'll have Seattle taking Mims in the first

They have bigger needs than WR IMO. DE and OT. They only have 3 DE under contract, the best being LJ Collier. They only had 28 sacks all year, second fewest in NFL. That said, resigning Clowney and adding Griffen would rectify that in a hurry. Then the need shifts more to OT, both the top ones will be gone by their pick.
Could see WR, if their pass rush in addressed in FA. Hope it's not Mims.

Think half their OL is gone as well.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Here are a few notable SPARQ percentiles at WR:

Denzel Mims - 94.6 percentile

Jalen Reagor - 93.3 percentile

Michael Pittman - 85.7 percentile

CeeDee Lamb - 70.5 percentile

Jerry Jeudy - 21.8 percentile

— Marcus Mosher (@Marcus_Mosher) February 29, 2020

Niners love Jalen Reagor. I don't think need to be in that war room to know this.

Asked an NFL scout for the fastest 10-yard splits from their stopwatches at the Combine. Three players posted a ridiculous 1.48 time:

WR Jalen Reagor
WR Henry Ruggs
RB Jonathan Taylor

— Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) March 5, 2020

Perfect, Shanahan doesn't throw deep anyways

Originally posted by Butter:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Here are a few notable SPARQ percentiles at WR:

Denzel Mims - 94.6 percentile

Jalen Reagor - 93.3 percentile

Michael Pittman - 85.7 percentile

CeeDee Lamb - 70.5 percentile

Jerry Jeudy - 21.8 percentile

— Marcus Mosher (@Marcus_Mosher) February 29, 2020

Niners love Jalen Reagor. I don't think need to be in that war room to know this.

Asked an NFL scout for the fastest 10-yard splits from their stopwatches at the Combine. Three players posted a ridiculous 1.48 time:

WR Jalen Reagor
WR Henry Ruggs
RB Jonathan Taylor

— Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) March 5, 2020

Perfect, Shanahan doesn't throw deep anyways

Didn't know Shanahan was playing QB

Originally posted by Butter:

Perfect, Shanahan doesn't throw deep anyways

The Falcons in 2016 sure did. The 49ers didn't. Which cost them dearly in the SB. The next step for this offense is to get the deep passing game going.

Shanahan is all about the explosive play. It's intrinsic to his football philosophy. In fact, ATL fans b***hed about him being too aggressive with deep shots.

The lack of downfield throws in SF is either due to lack of speedy WR, suspect pass protecting OL, or both.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Shanahan is all about the explosive play. It's intrinsic to his football philosophy. In fact, ATL fans b***hed about him being too aggressive with deep shots.

The lack of downfield throws in SF is either due to lack of speedy WR, suspect pass protecting OL, or both.

this.

for a team that didn't throw a ton of deep balls, they lead the league in explosive plays this past yr

We definitely need some deep threats...and a better OL.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
this.

for a team that didn't throw a ton of deep balls, they lead the league in explosive plays this past yr

The explosive plays were mostly runs. That was definitely our strength last year. Remember the 1st offensive play of the year. Breida the cheetah arounfd the left side for a TD. Let's see if Kyle opens up the passing game a little more this coming year. I don't think we lack guys that can get deep. Sanders did it a few times and he isn't a burner. It's more a matter of the type of plays Kyle is calling. There are really only a handful of burners who can actually catch the ball. Most of the top receivers are in the 4.4-4.6 range.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

The explosive plays were mostly runs. That was definitely our strength last year. Remember the 1st offensive play of the year. Breida the cheetah arounfd the left side for a TD. Let's see if Kyle opens up the passing game a little more this coming year. I don't think we lack guys that can get deep. Sanders did it a few times and he isn't a burner. It's more a matter of the type of plays Kyle is calling. There are really only a handful of burners who can actually catch the ball. Most of the top receivers are in the 4.4-4.6 range.

Sanders is a FA and unless he's takes a massive discount he's not coming back. Most of our WRs are possession guys.

We don't have a guy that can get downfield fast. IMO it doesn't necessarily need to be a 4.3 guy (preferred) it could be a guy like Pittman who's good at deep ball catches (similar to mike Evans)....That WILL require better PP.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The explosive plays were mostly runs. That was definitely our strength last year. Remember the 1st offensive play of the year. Breida the cheetah arounfd the left side for a TD. Let's see if Kyle opens up the passing game a little more this coming year. I don't think we lack guys that can get deep. Sanders did it a few times and he isn't a burner. It's more a matter of the type of plays Kyle is calling. There are really only a handful of burners who can actually catch the ball. Most of the top receivers are in the 4.4-4.6 range.

Sanders is a FA and unless he's takes a massive discount he's not coming back. Most of our WRs are possession guys.

We don't have a guy that can get downfield fast. IMO it doesn't necessarily need to be a 4.3 guy (preferred) it could be a guy like Pittman who's good at deep ball catches (similar to mike Evans)....That WILL require better PP.

*cough* Aiyuk *cough*

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The explosive plays were mostly runs. That was definitely our strength last year. Remember the 1st offensive play of the year. Breida the cheetah arounfd the left side for a TD. Let's see if Kyle opens up the passing game a little more this coming year. I don't think we lack guys that can get deep. Sanders did it a few times and he isn't a burner. It's more a matter of the type of plays Kyle is calling. There are really only a handful of burners who can actually catch the ball. Most of the top receivers are in the 4.4-4.6 range.

Sanders is a FA and unless he's takes a massive discount he's not coming back. Most of our WRs are possession guys.

We don't have a guy that can get downfield fast. IMO it doesn't necessarily need to be a 4.3 guy (preferred) it could be a guy like Pittman who's good at deep ball catches (similar to mike Evans)....That WILL require better PP.

The speed is a little overrated. You must have heard that number they spoke about during the combine. They said only 2 players that have run sub 4.3 have ever had as many as 80 receptions. All the top receivers all time have been in the 4.4-46 or even 4.7 range. Route running is what gets guys open, not just speed. With the way corners play back and with the speed they have it's really hard to blow by them without some good moves that makes them stumble. Most of the really fast guys don't have the moves.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
*cough* Aiyuk *cough*

Brandon Aiyuk doing a nice job of fighting through contact and making the safety look absolutely silly on that sharp cut pic.twitter.com/Hix9L4Z5f6

— Nick Farabaugh (@FarabaughFB) March 5, 2020

Arizona State WR Brandon Aiyuk with a neat Stutter-Go. Not how Aiyuk "Sits down" to sell a change of direction. The DB breaks on it and Aiyuk blows right past him pic.twitter.com/ZvEg0RC7ls

— James Russell (@jamesru1) March 3, 2020

Aiyuk unquestionably fits the mold of a Shanny WR.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

The explosive plays were mostly runs. That was definitely our strength last year. Remember the 1st offensive play of the year. Breida the cheetah arounfd the left side for a TD. Let's see if Kyle opens up the passing game a little more this coming year. I don't think we lack guys that can get deep. Sanders did it a few times and he isn't a burner. It's more a matter of the type of plays Kyle is calling. There are really only a handful of burners who can actually catch the ball. Most of the top receivers are in the 4.4-4.6 range.

Sanders is a FA and unless he's takes a massive discount he's not coming back. Most of our WRs are possession guys.

We don't have a guy that can get downfield fast. IMO it doesn't necessarily need to be a 4.3 guy (preferred) it could be a guy like Pittman who's good at deep ball catches (similar to mike Evans)....That WILL require better PP.

*cough* Aiyuk *cough*

Brandon Aiyuk doing a nice job of fighting through contact and making the safety look absolutely silly on that sharp cut pic.twitter.com/Hix9L4Z5f6

— Nick Farabaugh (@FarabaughFB) March 5, 2020

Arizona State WR Brandon Aiyuk with a neat Stutter-Go. Not how Aiyuk "Sits down" to sell a change of direction. The DB breaks on it and Aiyuk blows right past him pic.twitter.com/ZvEg0RC7ls

— James Russell (@jamesru1) March 3, 2020

I'm a fan

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

The speed is a little overrated. You must have heard that number they spoke about during the combine. They said only 2 players that have run sub 4.3 have ever had as many as 80 receptions. All the top receivers all time have been in the 4.4-46 or even 4.7 range. Route running is what gets guys open, not just speed. With the way corners play back and with the speed they have it's really hard to blow by them without some good moves that makes them stumble. Most of the really fast guys don't have the moves.

I understand all of this. Also the guys they were throwing out with those top numbers weren't actually good WRs. You gotta be able to run a route or be able to catch a football. Something Goodwin (s**tty hands) and Ford (couldn't run a route) had problems with.

When you're "slow" you have to be able to win elsewhere though.

Teams have to respect deep speed. There's a reason why kyle always has a burn. It opens up everything.