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Originally posted by thl408:
I think Kyle prefers using a FB over a second TE because it provides more flexibility in the run game. Splurging on a second TE would be a poor use of a day 1/2 pick.
Originally posted by Rascal:Originally posted by thl408:I think Kyle prefers using a FB over a second TE because it provides more flexibility in the run game. Splurging on a second TE would be a poor use of a day 1/2 pick.
That depends who the second TE is. Have you seen Hockenson's tape? Do you remember when the Patriots had both Gronk and Hernandez? Only the Kittle and Hockenson pairing could be even better. Both can catch and block, is going to be next to impossible to stop.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by thl408:
I think Kyle prefers using a FB over a second TE because it provides more flexibility in the run game. Splurging on a second TE would be a poor use of a day 1/2 pick.
That depends who the second TE is. Have you seen Hockenson's tape? Do you remember when the Patriots had both Gronk and Hernandez? Only the Kittle and Hockenson pairing could be even better. Both can catch and block, is going to be next to impossible to stop.
Hockenson and Fant will go top 20. Otherwise we run to the podium if one is available in the second.
Originally posted by Rascal:OK, I am going to try something out of the box.
I have always said if we were to trade back, we take a lesser EDGE and DK Metcalf.
Now, since there has been some push back on Metcalf, so let me suggest an alternative option.
This may sound a little crazy to some since we already have George Kittle, has anyone considered the idea of going 12 personnel with 2 x TEs and taking Kittle's alum TJ Hockenson? That dude is a beast. How the hell can the opposing defense cover both Kittle and Hockenson at the same time?!
What do you reckon?
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:Facts!!
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Why on earth would we be trading back that far that far. If we miss out on Bosa or Allen I'm gonna say that Lynch would need to be fired. There's no reason we should be trading back unless Bosa or Allen are gone. And because we have the 2nd pick that isn't possible. This team is in MAJOR need of pass rushing. We are guaranteed a chance at one of the top two EDGE rushers coming out.
If there's ever a pick that Lynch is compelled to make it's Bosa if he's there for us, or Allen if the Cardinals take Bosa.
THIS! Anything other than Bosa or Allen, and that is a catastrophic mistake. ELITE players. You gotta have 'em, and at a position like ER, you just don't pass that up. You can't. And at a position of maximal need. ELIITES. Everbody has to have some. We have darn few. One or the other of these two guys or bust. Ergo, as for trades go, the only one i see is if AZ goes murray/Q, the only one on the board i would trade with would be Jets, and they aren't going anywhere near a deal like that. They got their QB...and RAIDS don't. But If AZ passes on Bosa /Allen, we give up #2 , our only sure fire way to get Allen or Bosa is to trade with Jets. So i don't see that happening at all.
And we stand pat with #2. Oops, misread DJs post. Would trade with Raids under this circumstance only. As long as we knew Gruden wanted a QB. But that is the only other ciircumstance where this works. Bosa or Allen. No other scenario.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by thl408:
I think Kyle prefers using a FB over a second TE because it provides more flexibility in the run game. Splurging on a second TE would be a poor use of a day 1/2 pick.
That depends who the second TE is. Have you seen Hockenson's tape? Do you remember when the Patriots had both Gronk and Hernandez? Only the Kittle and Hockenson pairing could be even better. Both can catch and block, is going to be next to impossible to stop.
Hockenson and Fant will go top 20. Otherwise we run to the podium if one is available in the second.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Clelin Ferrell.
Originally posted by LVJay:What if FO actually trades down with Giants and they select two edge rushers in the 1st round? This isn't going to happen, but if you're one of the posters who don't mind a trade down, are you ok with this move. If so, who do you like (Ferrell and Burns, etc)............?
You'll could say it's stupid or whatever, but FO already mentioned that you can never have too many dline guys
Originally posted by Rascal:I was thinking if we were to trade down, say with the Giants, take a lesser EDGE at 6 and hopefully Hockenson at 17 if not Fant. Quite a few mock drafts have Hockenson going to the Packers at 12 though.
Well, that's one way to go for people who don't dig Metcalf I suppose.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by LVJay:
What if FO actually trades down with Giants and they select two edge rushers in the 1st round? This isn't going to happen, but if you're one of the posters who don't mind a trade down, are you ok with this move. If so, who do you like (Ferrell and Burns, etc)............?
You'll could say it's stupid or whatever, but FO already mentioned that you can never have too many dline guys
With Thomas, Buckner, Ford, and Armstead, that would have to be some sort of a record for first round DLinemen. 6?!