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Kyler Murray, QB OU
Apr 3, 2019 at 4:08 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Latest mock drafts have the Raiders moving up to 1 to take Murray.
Apr 3, 2019 at 5:01 PM
- Cisco0623
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Latest mock drafts have the Raiders moving up to 1 to take Murray.
I don't see it tbh. I think Gruden rides Carr and drafts defense.
Apr 3, 2019 at 5:33 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Latest mock drafts have the Raiders moving up to 1 to take Murray.
I would LOVE that! Keeps Murray out of our division and we still get Bosa
Apr 3, 2019 at 5:43 PM
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Originally posted by 49ers808:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Latest mock drafts have the Raiders moving up to 1 to take Murray.
I would LOVE that! Keeps Murray out of our division and we still get Bosa
Yeah but then the raiders are probably good :/
Apr 3, 2019 at 6:11 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Cardinals gonna trade Rosen to the Patriots where Belichick and Brady will tutor him in the Dark Arts and he'll go on to lead them to four more SB wins.
Belichick probably does have the best chance to develop Rosen. Most coaches have and will try to make him into a white knight/All American leader. But that's not him. He's better suited to be the villain who channels the force for personal gain.
Apr 3, 2019 at 7:19 PM
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Originally posted by 49ers808:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Latest mock drafts have the Raiders moving up to 1 to take Murray.
I would LOVE that! Keeps Murray out of our division and we still get Bosa
I'd rather see Arizona take Murray. I'm not worried about him. If Arizona moves to 4 they're going to end up with Quinnen Williams or Josh Allen and another starter which would scare me a lot more than Murray.
With their OL if we draft Bosa he may not make it through his rookie season between us and Aaron Donald.
Apr 3, 2019 at 7:38 PM
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Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by 49ers808:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Latest mock drafts have the Raiders moving up to 1 to take Murray.
I would LOVE that! Keeps Murray out of our division and we still get Bosa
I'd rather see Arizona take Murray. I'm not worried about him. If Arizona moves to 4 they're going to end up with Quinnen Williams or Josh Allen and another starter which would scare me a lot more than Murray.
With their OL if we draft Bosa he may not make it through his rookie season between us and Aaron Donald.
I dunno man. Murray is taylor made for that offense and been recruited since highschool to run it. They won't be able to run it the same with Rosen. I'd argue that Murray is exactly what's needed when an OL is that bad, he can escape and run with pressure or extend plays Rosen can't.
Apr 3, 2019 at 8:58 PM
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I need some JR trade rumor news, dammit 
[ Edited by riverrunzthruit on Apr 3, 2019 at 8:58 PM ]
Apr 3, 2019 at 9:06 PM
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Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:I need some JR trade rumor news, dammit
I heard on the Rich Eisen show that all they heard after the combine was Murray will go #1 to the Cardinals. And that they won't trade JR until the draft and they know for a fact they have drafted Murray. Even if a team offers their #1 pick. JR is their backup plan if for some crazy reason they don't draft Murray #1... like if Murray decides he wants to play MLB right before the draft. They can't risk not have a QB at all
[ Edited by braap49er on Apr 3, 2019 at 9:07 PM ]
Apr 3, 2019 at 9:15 PM
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Originally posted by braap49er:hmmmmmm, didn't consider that... I just assumed KM was sold out now for the NFL, but in reality he could go MLB any time he wants... makes sense why the Tards would hold out, that and trying to drive up the QB trade value factor that always seems to escalate right at the draft... like deer in the rut, are those GMs looking for a franchise QB
I heard on the Rich Eisen show that all they heard after the combine was Murray will go #1 to the Cardinals. And that they won't trade JR until the draft and they know for a fact they have drafted Murray. Even if a team offers their #1 pick. JR is their backup plan if for some crazy reason they don't draft Murray #1... like if Murray decides he wants to play MLB right before the draft. They can't risk not have a QB at all
Apr 3, 2019 at 9:25 PM
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Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Originally posted by braap49er:hmmmmmm, didn't consider that... I just assumed KM was sold out now for the NFL, but in reality he could go MLB any time he wants... makes sense why the Tards would hold out, that and trying to drive up the QB trade value factor that always seems to escalate right at the draft... like deer in the rut, are those GMs looking for a franchise QB
I heard on the Rich Eisen show that all they heard after the combine was Murray will go #1 to the Cardinals. And that they won't trade JR until the draft and they know for a fact they have drafted Murray. Even if a team offers their #1 pick. JR is their backup plan if for some crazy reason they don't draft Murray #1... like if Murray decides he wants to play MLB right before the draft. They can't risk not have a QB at all
Schrager just tossed in the MLB thing at the end, cuz it's a nice way to say that anything could happen with Murray between now and DD, even bad things like a bust or an accident. No reason for AZ to make their move now - a bird in hand and all that.
I would expect a trade during the draft if AZ goes that way.
Apr 3, 2019 at 9:31 PM
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If AZ has any doubts about Murray being committed to the NFL they probably won't draft him.
Apr 3, 2019 at 9:42 PM
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Originally posted by braap49er:I heard on the Rich Eisen show that all they heard after the combine was Murray will go #1 to the Cardinals. And that they won't trade JR until the draft and they know for a fact they have drafted Murray. Even if a team offers their #1 pick. JR is their backup plan if for some crazy reason they don't draft Murray #1... like if Murray decides he wants to play MLB right before the draft. They can't risk not have a QB at all
Who is they? This is all stuff being reported by people with no actual ties to the organization. The reporters that follow the team most closely all are saying that pretty much everything is on the table and a tradedown is still the most favored option.
Apr 3, 2019 at 9:42 PM
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Originally posted by RTFirefly:Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:hmmmmmm, didn't consider that... I just assumed KM was sold out now for the NFL, but in reality he could go MLB any time he wants... makes sense why the Tards would hold out, that and trying to drive up the QB trade value factor that always seems to escalate right at the draft... like deer in the rut, are those GMs looking for a franchise QBOriginally posted by braap49er:I heard on the Rich Eisen show that all they heard after the combine was Murray will go #1 to the Cardinals. And that they won't trade JR until the draft and they know for a fact they have drafted Murray. Even if a team offers their #1 pick. JR is their backup plan if for some crazy reason they don't draft Murray #1... like if Murray decides he wants to play MLB right before the draft. They can't risk not have a QB at all
Schrager just tossed in the MLB thing at the end, cuz it's a nice way to say that anything could happen with Murray between now and DD, even bad things like a bust or an accident. No reason for AZ to make their move now - a bird in hand and all that.
I would expect a trade during the draft if AZ goes that way.
Yup, not saying he would go back to baseball. But the Cards need to make sure they have a QB before making any serious moves
[ Edited by braap49er on Apr 3, 2019 at 9:42 PM ]
Apr 4, 2019 at 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by braap49er:Originally posted by RTFirefly:Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:hmmmmmm, didn't consider that... I just assumed KM was sold out now for the NFL, but in reality he could go MLB any time he wants... makes sense why the Tards would hold out, that and trying to drive up the QB trade value factor that always seems to escalate right at the draft... like deer in the rut, are those GMs looking for a franchise QBOriginally posted by braap49er:I heard on the Rich Eisen show that all they heard after the combine was Murray will go #1 to the Cardinals. And that they won't trade JR until the draft and they know for a fact they have drafted Murray. Even if a team offers their #1 pick. JR is their backup plan if for some crazy reason they don't draft Murray #1... like if Murray decides he wants to play MLB right before the draft. They can't risk not have a QB at all
Schrager just tossed in the MLB thing at the end, cuz it's a nice way to say that anything could happen with Murray between now and DD, even bad things like a bust or an accident. No reason for AZ to make their move now - a bird in hand and all that.
I would expect a trade during the draft if AZ goes that way.
Yup, not saying he would go back to baseball. But the Cards need to make sure they have a QB before making any serious moves
That makes complete sense to me, I don't think it would hurt his value much either, they only have to convince a team that other teams are bidding high, the auction effect will get their value back.
This is a bad QB class, teams will pay up.