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  • mayo49
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Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
so who's the best ER after Bosa?

Clelin Ferrell...IMO

Yeah, but he's on a reconstructed knee - I downgrade him because of that.
The Draft Network's quick take on the edge rushers at the Senior Bowl:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/01/09/2019-senior-bowl-preview-edge-defenders/
Originally posted by Spike1000:
The Draft Network's quick take on the edge rushers at the Senior Bowl:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/01/09/2019-senior-bowl-preview-edge-defenders/
I expect him(Josh Allen) to run circles around offensive lineman all week. He has top-10 upside."

As do I, and if he doesn't, that's a huge red flag, especially in the solos. DL have a massive intrinsic advantage in those drills vs OL. Josh Allen should be destroying people.
  • jimrat
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
so who's the best ER after Bosa?

Clelin Ferrell...IMO

Yeah, but he's on a reconstructed knee - I downgrade him because of that.
Watched a game this year where he had to be taken out for a few series because he tweaked knee celebrating a sack lol
  • All22
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I like Burns a lot but I wouldn't be mad if we traded up to get Bosa.
  • mayo49
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Originally posted by All22:
I like Burns a lot but I wouldn't be mad if we traded up to get Bosa.

Up from #2? I guess that's a possibility.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Jan 10, 2019 at 11:12 AM ]
  • All22
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by All22:
I like Burns a lot but I wouldn't be mad if we traded up to get Bosa.

Up from #2? I guess that's a possibility.
For the same reason the Bears went from #3 to #2, there will be other teams making other offers.
Plus, Bosa is the perfect player for us. Maybe the Cards are split between Bosa and QWill and an extra pick will help them decide.

And,Although I haven't watched a ton of film yet, QWill getting tired in the NCG and being redundant talent makes him less than ideal for me.
[ Edited by All22 on Jan 10, 2019 at 11:42 AM ]
  • mayo49
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Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by All22:
I like Burns a lot but I wouldn't be mad if we traded up to get Bosa.

Up from #2? I guess that's a possibility.
For the same reason the Bears went from #3 to #2, there will be other teams making other offers.
Plus, Bosa is the perfect player for us. Maybe the Cards are split between Bosa and QWill and an extra pick will help them decide.

And,Although I haven't watched a ton of film yet, QWill getting tired in the NCG and being redundant talent makes him less than ideal for me.

I hear you - I'm guessing anything is possible - especially if they really love Bosa.
  • All22
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by All22:
I like Burns a lot but I wouldn't be mad if we traded up to get Bosa.

Up from #2? I guess that's a possibility.
For the same reason the Bears went from #3 to #2, there will be other teams making other offers.
Plus, Bosa is the perfect player for us. Maybe the Cards are split between Bosa and QWill and an extra pick will help them decide.

And,Although I haven't watched a ton of film yet, QWill getting tired in the NCG and being redundant talent makes him less than ideal for me.

I hear you - I'm guessing anything is possible - especially if they really love Bosa.
Yeah, I'm not saying they should tradeup but if they did I'd completely understand. I'd rather give up the extra pick than risk taking the "second-best guy" and have him be bust like we did with Thomas. It's hard to say if QWill is going to be bust but playing alongside so much redundant talent here is absolutely going to increase the chances he will be.
Originally posted by All22:
Yeah, I'm not saying they should tradeup but if they did I'd completely understand. I'd rather give up the extra pick than risk taking the "second-best guy" and have him be bust like we did with Thomas. It's hard to say if QWill is going to be bust but playing alongside so much redundant talent here is absolutely going to increase the chances he will be.

The Bears didn't give up an extra pick - to move one spot they had to give up a 2017 3rd and 4th and a 2018 3rd

We simply don't have the capital to trade up.

That said, the Cards aren't taking Bosa - he is a luxury BPA pick that they can't afford with the amount of holes. They trade down with one of the 5 + teams after a QB and more than likely are eyeing off OT Williams.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
so who's the best ER after Bosa?

Clelin Ferrell...IMO

Yeah, but he's on a reconstructed knee - I downgrade him because of that.

A DE , on a reconstructed Knee? Anyone know for sure exactly what he had done? It makes a difference, but a DE with reconstructed knee? That sounds like a huge leap of faith. Especially in a big guy like him. This removes him from a top pick for me. if you are desperate and really need that DE (sound familiar) , this is a very bad bet in a large, large man. Ixnay.

No question this guy is talented, strong as an ox, but we didn't listen to the injury reports on Reuben, and even if he had his schid together, he would have just been a sometime player....injured the rest of the time. Doesn't mean he wasn't a terrific player, but like GM Lynch said, "the greatest ability of a player is his AVAILABILITY. And this team has seen way more of that than anyone could ever want.

No way in heck we take this very talented but medically questionable kid.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Jan 10, 2019 at 2:48 PM ]
By the time the NFL draft arrives, Clelin Ferrell will have a prosthetic leg according to the webzone.
[ Edited by Heroism on Jan 10, 2019 at 4:12 PM ]
Originally posted by Heroism:
By the time the NFL draft arrives, Clelin Ferrell will have a prosthetic leg.
Yeah, but maybe it will be a magic leg?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ8AO-5BEiE
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Spike1000:
The Draft Network's quick take on the edge rushers at the Senior Bowl:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/01/09/2019-senior-bowl-preview-edge-defenders/
I expect him(Josh Allen) to run circles around offensive lineman all week. He has top-10 upside."

As do I, and if he doesn't, that's a huge red flag, especially in the solos. DL have a massive intrinsic advantage in those drills vs OL. Josh Allen should be destroying people.
Definitely looking forward to your take/feedback, you do a great job breaking down the edges/pass rushers!
Originally posted by Spike1000:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Spike1000:
The Draft Network's quick take on the edge rushers at the Senior Bowl:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/01/09/2019-senior-bowl-preview-edge-defenders/
I expect him(Josh Allen) to run circles around offensive lineman all week. He has top-10 upside."

As do I, and if he doesn't, that's a huge red flag, especially in the solos. DL have a massive intrinsic advantage in those drills vs OL. Josh Allen should be destroying people.
Definitely looking forward to your take/feedback, you do a great job breaking down the edges/pass rushers!

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