Rashan Gary, EDGE, Michigan

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Never said he didn't have things to work on... NY said... He did it against bums or players that are not in the nfl...

I posted it to show him he was wrong and it's him not paying attention to me because he did against an active Bengals player....

To me he has too that you cannot teach vs teachable things like the article NY posted yesterday... or podcast... You see NY I listen...

The clips you showed above where against bums. So I pointed it out.

So he had his best game vs Billy Price who's a CENTER not a tackle. hmmmmmm where should he play if he's having his best game vs a center

You seem to only retain the positive stuff from the podcast/Voch breakdown/TDN 5-play breakdown lol. Gotta take the good with the bad my man.

I get it... You guys are traumatized from that blunder of a move..

This is the guy Lynch envisioned in Thomas.. True or not True!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Ok so you have him now but because you f**ked up on a pick a couple of years ago now you going to try and play it safe?!?! Snap out of that mentality... It's convenient to say out most picks don't pan out anyway when the mistake had been made but now you are going to deny that ceiling or say no one can get him where he wants to be?

I'm sorry but that's loser mentality, I would put money he has a better career than the Bosa sisters.

You say I have Michigan goggles yet this is the guy Lynch envisioned when he drafted Thomas..

Lolololol Tell me I am wrong like I am not a niner fan....

Crickets... but but it's you're bias...

Officially debunked It was a good story while it lasted guys..

Let them know John Lynch..... bwahahaha

I'm more of a niner fan than you may believe. It's insulting.. but I played long enough. Correlation much??????

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
You say I have Michigan goggles yet this is the guy Lynch envisioned when he drafted Thomas..

Lolololol Tell me I am wrong like I am not a niner fan....

Crickets... but but it's you're bias...

Officially debunked It was a good story while it lasted guys..

So now you can say he's not a pure edge rusher?? I don't even know what Lynch wanted to do with Thomas when he was drafted....he put him out as a edge rusher day one even though he never played the position and didn't have the skill set to be tackles. He now weighs like 285 and should be able to rush from the interior much more in 2019.

They would probably play the same role no doubt. I don't think there's a single person in here saying he wouldn't, so I have no idea where the "Crickets... but but it's you're bias..." comment is coming from.

Most people don't see him as a pure edge rusher that's the whole argument. You've debunked nothing and are making up stuff to argue about. it's kinda weird actually. We simply don't need another big end we have like 5 of them.

Let's start here...

Ok let me interpret.... I'm not saying I know more than any of you before the spin starts...

I just know Lynch wanted Solomon to use as Edge and kick in as they say, as needed in different packages... He loved Thomas athleticism..

True or not True?

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Let them know John Lynch..... bwahahaha

I'm more of a niner fan than you may believe. It's insulting.. but I played long enough. Correlation much??????

You're arguing with yourself man....that's the whole point we think he's a big end who should rush from the interior.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

You're arguing with yourself man....that's the whole point we think he's a big end who should rush from the interior.

Actually I am not I have numerous of posts by you and others talking about bias and goggles yet Rashan Gary I bet was the guy Lynch envisioned, so it's very relevant to the subject at hand.

Especially again you accuse me of not paying attention at the same time Gary did it against a nfl Bengals player..

Until you guys take that biased mentality and realize I at least know a little bit in what Lynch wanted at that time which fast foward the guy imho that met his check marks.

Is Gary.. It's very relevant. The problem is some cannot get past the biased comments and see things for what they are..

He was the guy Lynch envisioned when he drafted Thomas..

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Let's start here...

Ok let me interpret.... I'm not saying I know more than any of you before the spin starts...

I just know Lynch wanted Solomon to use as Edge and kick in as they say, as needed in different packages... He loved Thomas athleticism..

True or not True?

Lynch and Saleh said Thomas will make his "hay" as an interior pass rusher. In base he's a big end edge defender. He had him as our LEO for like a yr in a half for a couple reasons IMO....

1. run defense seemed to be the top priority and he's a very good edge defender
2. We simple have no weak-side edge rushers
3. 4-3 DE edge rushers are move valuable than DTs. He has athletic ability, but doesn't have the nuances to be an effective full-time edge rusher (same as Gary IMO).

NOW he's bulked up to like 285 and will be used more inside vs the pass. Gary would be used very similarly, issue is we have like 4/5 guys that already will be playing the same role. We don't need another one, just don't man. Gary could be better not saying he wouldn't, but it just throws another big end on top of another big end.

IF the plan is to use Gary as a pure edge rusher it's gonna be a horrible mistake. That's my main issue, that and we already have a bunch of young players that are signed to play the role he would on this team. I don't hate Gary just don't need to load up on more big ends.

So because he made a wrong choice two years ago, fast forward now you got the guy you wanted for this defense..

On a dude that only had 10% on edge but Gary has 50% snaps on edge....

So because you missed or whiff now you say we got him when in reality there's nobody on our defense that is Rashan Gary...

I'm sorry that's loser mentality. You got him now. 50% snaps was on edge.. You can work with him. Rashan Gary played 31 games straight playing 3 downs... No surgery...

Thats an nfl player.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Actually I am not I have numerous of posts by you and others talking about bias and goggles yet Rashan Gary I bet was the guy Lynch envisioned, so it's very relevant to the subject at hand.

Especially again you accuse me of not paying attention at the same time Gary did it against a nfl Bengals player..

Until you guys take that biased mentality and realize I at least know a little bit in what Lynch wanted at that time which fast foward the guy imho that met his check marks.

Is Gary.. It's very relevant. The problem is some cannot get past the biased comments and see things for what they are..

He was the guy Lynch envisioned when he drafted Thomas..

You've literally changed you're idea of Gary should be lol...my WHOLE argument is that he's not a weak-side edge rusher and you've argued tooth and nail about it for months.

NOW you're saying he's what Thomas was supposed to be...issue is Thomas hasn't even had that role until like week 12 this yr.

You bring up how he beat Price who's a center, yes and center...I've been stating for a month he's a better 3-tech. You're proving my point. Yet you're trying to argue with me about what now? No argument to be had, that's what I've been stating.

We have a f**k ton of big ends that push inside. AA/Thomas/Streets/Taylor even Blair can do that. We don't need another one. WE need a pure edge rusher.

Lmao @ we have a ton of big ends... Yet none are Rashan Gary or is even close to the prospect he is.

Breaking News: In reality NY no we don't have a ton of Rashan Gary's if we did we wouldn't be 4-12....

We don't have a single Rashan Gary let alone a ton..

We have ends that are busts.... Keep it real dude... Keep it real you think he is a bust..

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
So because he made a wrong choice two years ago, fast forward now you got the guy you wanted for this defense..

On a dude that only had 10% on edge but Gary has 50% snaps on edge....

So because you missed or whiff now you say we got him when in reality there's nobody on our defense that is Rashan Gary...

I'm sorry that's loser mentality. You got him now. 50% snaps was on edge.. You can work with him. Rashan Gary played 31 games straight playing 3 downs... No surgery...

Thats an nfl player.

So now you're totally changing your argument lol...man you're all over the place. You're not drafting a guy at two that isn't a edge rusher and who wasn't a dominant force at his current position (we've seen how much of a failure that is a couple times) No more projections. No more.

Allen makes more sense (even though I have ? marks about him as well). Hell even QW makes more sense because he was so damn dominant at DT.

It's all projections with Gary because he was used as a edge rusher mostly and wasn't very good. You're hoping his traits translate, but you don't do that at #2 overall. Maybe in a trade down.

Ok question, Are any of our big ends as fast as Josh Allen on our squad currently. "Big Ends"

When Lynch drafted Thomas, he was thinking of Rashan Gary thats all I'm saying and it's very relevant if you asked me...