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Rashan Gary, EDGE, Michigan

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Mar 4, 2019 at 6:51 AM
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Are you factoring his weight or comparing him against everybody?

How does he run against other 280 pounders.

Solomon Thomas ran a 6.95 3-cone at 273
Mar 4, 2019 at 6:51 AM
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Are you factoring his weight or comparing him against everybody?

How does he run against other 280 pounders.

Good question.. I would like to know as well...


MVP!!!!!!!

This young gun has been doing it since very young, against competitors.... You guys see who is next to him right? 🤪👀👀👀👀👀

A middle aged white guy
Mar 4, 2019 at 6:54 AM

3 MVP's

Another MVP!!! This isn't a game.. He has been doing this for a long time against the best of the best..Individually... He demands double and triple teams.... Demands it. Even injured... lol

Do you see the deadly 👋🏼???👀👀👀 Dangerous slap.. 296lbs. Best of the best when healthy and will embarrass you injured as well...

Ferrari's sell themselves.... They don't need used car sales men.
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Mar 4, 2019 at 7:14 AM ]
Mar 4, 2019 at 7:17 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Are you factoring his weight or comparing him against everybody?

How does he run against other 280 pounders.

Solomon Thomas ran a 6.95 3-cone at 273

A good reason to argue that combine numbers are completely irrelevant to future success. Perhaps, quick and agile aren't that important to interior defensive lineman. Maybe they should add a tractor pull drill to the combine for defensive lineman.
Mar 4, 2019 at 7:21 AM
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Are you factoring his weight or comparing him against everybody?

How does he run against other 280 pounders.

Solomon Thomas ran a 6.95 3-cone at 273

A good reason to argue that combine numbers are completely irrelevant to future success. Perhaps, quick and agile aren't that important to interior defensive lineman. Maybe they should add a tractor pull drill to the combine for defensive lineman.


True but when healthy.. One on One.. Nearly unstoppable.. No lie.. You guys also have to look at him individually.

He has the production.. Individually and Freshman, Sophomore year. Junior year he was hurt...
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Mar 4, 2019 at 7:22 AM ]
Mar 4, 2019 at 7:22 AM
Uhh David Long just ran a 4.4 40 yard dash just letting you know
Mar 4, 2019 at 10:55 AM

I want a combination of rushers. I would prefer these two, when healthy there was no duo better..

Whatever the combination... This is the class to fortify our defense for the next ten years. Don't f**k it up.
Mar 4, 2019 at 11:26 AM

So many plays where you see him pressure and makes his presence felt... Do you see the explosiveness coming off the edge? Another mobile Qb....

Russell Wilson would have a problem with Rashan Gary... Serious problem...

Bush and Gary are a problem... Too fast... 💨
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Mar 4, 2019 at 11:30 AM ]
Mar 4, 2019 at 11:57 AM
👀👀 Record 🚨

First 270lbs + to run a sub 4.6 in 20 years!!!!👀 😱 🏃🏽‍♂️💨💨💨
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Mar 4, 2019 at 11:58 AM ]
Mar 4, 2019 at 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
👀👀 Record 🚨

First 270lbs + to run a sub 4.6 in 20 years!!!!👀 😱 🏃🏽‍♂️💨💨💨

All that speed & power yet less then 10 sacks in 3 yrs still got out benched by a 200 pound RB
Mar 4, 2019 at 12:14 PM
Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
All that speed & power yet less then 10 sacks in 3 yrs still got out benched by a 200 pound RB



You can keep regurgitating you're garbage and keep ignoring, the triple teams, double teams, deep rotation freshman year, very good sophomore year, and was injured junior year...

Don't disappear Tatdwolf... You will be the first one I would go back and look over..

Despite having the best defender duo in college when healthy. You forgot about that part didn't you??? The best duo in college... Did that register??? Let that sit for a while..

The best duo in college football...Not Feelings... Tatdwolf.. Keep spilling you're feelings.. FACTS WHEN HEALTHY NOT FEELINGS.... He broke a record too.. Did you have you're popcorn 🍿

Why no one is talking about the 50 pressures a piece? Best duo in college football Tatdwolf...
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Mar 4, 2019 at 12:29 PM ]
Mar 4, 2019 at 12:29 PM
For those of you who have asked my review of Gary, I am copying what I posted earlier in this thread (see time stamp below)

Feb 17, 2019 at 10:10 PM
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MadDog49erHall of FamePosts: 18,643
Finished my review of Gary's work in 2018. Watched almost every snap (I don't feel confident about analyzing any one player without seeing the vast majority of their snaps in a season...in Gary's case I only missed the Western Michigan game...so I saw 8 of the 9 games from 2018). I don't focus on splash wins or losses as the basis of my analysis (i will let someone else review highlight videos), but snap by snap wins. Does the player defeat his opponent consistently? Does the player make a strong impact on the game?
Here are some thoughts:
* Gary is a better run defender than pass rusher.
* Gary does a solid job of stacking blockers, and shedding them for tackles. He is not dynamic as a run defender who makes a lot of tackles for loss (6.5 for the season), but does hold up well against the run. Not a good idea to use a TE to run block against Gary. He will win too often.
* He possesses good, but not great, lateral skills for a player who is considered an elite athlete. Gary is more of an up the field mover (North and South) mover. Can he run to the sideline? Sure. But, he is a straight-line speed guy. That is his strength.
* Gary is MUCH better as a RDE than LDE. His productivity was strikingly different, win percentage much lower. I don't have a total # of snaps for each side, but I would venture to say that he was a RDE on 60% of snaps and 30% as a LDE, with about 10% inside.
* Gary comes off the ball quickly on passing downs. He is pretty fast off the snap. At the same time, there is very little bend to Gary. He is not a guy who runs the arc well.
*Gary's best attribute on passing downs is using burst and brute strength to push the OT backwards toward the QB. He doesn't do this enough. This is his top trait as a pass rusher.
* He has very limited secondary moves in pass rushing. If he get locked on, he is almost always done. Lacks a spin move. Really needs to add this to his game. Motor drops off quickly when initial move is stopped.
* Gary will have a splash play on a series and then have multiple series where he is really quiet. There is not a consistent domination of the opponent.
* I don't see the competitive fire that define many other top-tier athletes in this draft. Matched up against Isaiah Prince of OSU in a rivalry game, he was SO quiet. I expected more in a huge rivalry game.
My analysis is based on Gary's game tape. He is regarded as one of the freak athletes in this draft, and is primed to be a big winner at the combine as a world-class athlete. I just didn't see this translate to enough productivity on the field. It seems the push by many is to move him inside to DT where he can use his sudden, up the field movement and solid rush defense in the middle of the defense. He didn't take a lot of snaps there in 2018, but it may be his best option.
Fortunately, for Gary, someone is going to be enamored with the freaky physical traits he possesses, and he will be drafted far outside where I grade him. To me, as a DE. he is a mid-late second round draft grade, fringe top 50 player, based on productivity and wins. He is not going to be a bust, because there are parts of his game that are solid. But, this is not a top 10 player. Maybe he can take his game to a whole new level. But, that is a risky proposition for a team that is basing its analysis more on potential than tape. I wish nothing but the best for Gary in his future career.
P.S. Gary had the unfortunate landing spot in my analysis, directly after Ed Oliver, who is a flat-out stud monster who dominates games, and wins on a high percentage of snaps. I was primed to see the same level of dominance. But, Gary's play pales in comparison to Oliver.
Mar 4, 2019 at 12:30 PM
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:


You can keep regurgitating you're garbage and keep ignoring, the triple teams, double teams, deep rotation freshman year, very good sophomore year, and was injured junior year...

Don't disappear Tatdwolf... You will be the first one I would go back and look over..

Despite having the best defender duo in college when healthy. You forgot about that part didn't you??? The best duo in college... Did that register??? Let that sit for a while..

The best duo in college football...Not Feelings... Tatdwolf.. Keep spilling you're feelings.. FACTS WHEN HEALTHY NOT FEELINGS.... He broke a record too.. Did you have you're popcorn 🍿

Look me up all u want !!! Look back at tha facts wu I stated months ago I was intrigued about Gary ...I also stated tha only reason why I mock Gray is cuase of ur overbearing rah rah need to force him down everybody's throat !!!!

Mar 4, 2019 at 12:40 PM
Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
Look me up all u want !!! Look back at tha facts wu I stated months ago I was intrigued about Gary ...I also stated tha only reason why I mock Gray is cuase of ur overbearing rah rah need to force him down everybody's throat !!!!


Dude.. He just broke a 20 year old record... He has been doing it since young all over the line.. No defensive lineman has moved that fast in 20 years at that weight..

What de had more pressures than him in 2017? Winovich that's it..

This is a different animal. I should have expected this..
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Mar 4, 2019 at 12:42 PM ]
Mar 4, 2019 at 12:46 PM
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