Rashan Gary, EDGE, Michigan

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Frank Clark is going to be a free agent this year... True or False?!?!?!Ofcourse I'ma bring him up and his 14 sacks... That people love so much around here.....

More lazing posting worrying about debunking the truth but don't realize you cannot debunk the truth only the lies.... Remember that.

If the 49ers mentality reflect as this forum then no wonder why the past 4 years we have been bottom feeders..

Frank Clark is a piece of human trash who knocked his GF unconscious in front of her little brothers, who were so terrified that they fled the hotel room while screaming, "Frank killed her," then he threatened violence upon elderly female witnesses and a female hotel security guard, but he played for Michigan, right?

The crazy part is that you can't even see your own hypocrisy. You want to talk about Clark's sacks, because it's a good stat line, but you don't want anyone talking about Gary's sacks, because that's a poor stat line. Interesting that you call everyone else here transparent, when your true motivations are clear to everyone except for you, evidently.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Frank Clark is a piece of human trash who knocked his GF unconscious in front of her little brothers, who were so terrified that they fled the hotel room while screaming, "Frank killed her," then he threatened violence upon elderly female witnesses and a female hotel security guard, but he played for Michigan, right?

The crazy part is that you can't even see your own hypocrisy. You want to talk about Clark's sacks, because it's a good stat line, but you don't want anyone talking about Gary's sacks, because that's a poor stat line. Interesting that you call everyone else here transparent, when your true motivations are clear to everyone except for you, evidently.

Sorry no spinning....

Since day one in here... SACKS are the end be to all stat in here.... I can say some are either too lazy to research or just hate him... He is polarizing. So many look at Gary sacks and say he is a 10 sack bust another recycled debunked false narrative..

I could barely get anyone to dig deeper... 10 sack bust recycled false narrative that came from the Jabrill thread.. 1 int debunked bust false narrative...

Lazy or hating pick one to best describe after you ask to look at his whole body of work..???? pretty accurate...

Stop it.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
1) That's not a great stat line. It's decent, and that's his best season.

2) He's not an edge, regardless of how many times you claim it. The bend, hand technique, and pass rush plan simply aren't there, no matter how much you want to see it.

3) More aggression and personal attacks to cover your need to blindly defend Michigan players. People can get warned and TO for that sort of thing.

What personal attacks? You're posts are filled with sarcasm...

Fact not opinion... Some wana troll then call it personal attacks when you call it lazy posting.. Convenient? It is..

It's so obvious how everday its about me and not Gary... Sad... Transparent....

"ridiculous" "pathetic" "b******t"

You can't talk about people the way you do here and not expect them to talk back. You are getting real-life feelings hurt because people have different honest assessments of your favorite player's draft value. Think about that for a second. You then post angrily to and about those people, then claim that it's all about you when people dispute what you have said to and about them. That is not the most mature approach to an intelligent discussion. Like it or not, you are not going to be successful in insulting people or their opinions until they agree with you.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

"ridiculous" "pathetic" "b******t"

You can't talk about people the way you do here and not expect them to talk back. You are getting real-life feelings hurt because people have different honest assessments of your favorite player's draft value. Think about that for a second. You then post angrily to and about those people, then claim that it's all about you when people dispute what you have said to and about them. That is not the most mature approach to an intelligent discussion. Like it or not, you are not going to be successful in insulting people or their opinions until they agree with you.

DUDE THE HATERS ARE MORE CONCERNED READING MY POSTS AND TRYING TO DEBUNK THEM WITHOUT ONCE LISTENING TO ME OR WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING...

Cut the buls**t some are more concerned trying to tell me wtf I mean... I know what I mean because I said it...

The haters never bothered or cared to research and look past the 10 sacks until recently...

I don't look at your post and try to tell you what you meant...

I know the games very well just stop. Since the beginning they don't give him a chance because they cannot get past the 10 sack bust theory...

f**k yea it's frustrating when the games continue... Yes but not once I attacked anyone...

True story...

All they care for is sacks, they don't bother to research but as soon as you call it lazy posting because of the b******t bias theories...

They call it personal attacks... How convenient... Just say ya won't stop the games because I don't play those games but I am very "awoken" to them and incline to detect them very well...

Say you don't like him for personal reasons... Don't put words in my mouth nor push b******t theories and sell them as food... lol

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Frank Clark is a piece of human trash who knocked his GF unconscious in front of her little brothers, who were so terrified that they fled the hotel room while screaming, "Frank killed her," then he threatened violence upon elderly female witnesses and a female hotel security guard, but he played for Michigan, right?

The crazy part is that you can't even see your own hypocrisy. You want to talk about Clark's sacks, because it's a good stat line, but you don't want anyone talking about Gary's sacks, because that's a poor stat line. Interesting that you call everyone else here transparent, when your true motivations are clear to everyone except for you, evidently.

Sorry no spinning....

Since day one in here... SACKS are the end be to all stat in here.... I can say some are either too lazy to research or just hate him... He is polarizing. So many look at Gary sacks and say he is a 10 sack bust another recycled debunked false narrative..

I could barely get anyone to dig deeper... 10 sack bust recycled false narrative that came from the Jabrill thread.. 1 int debunked bust false narrative...

Stop it.

Quote a post that called Gary a bust. I didn't type it, neither did NY, but we are the guys you keep saying that too. Saying he doesn't belong in the conversation as the second overall pick isn't hate; it's logic. There are two players who are clearly better than everyone else in the draft RIGHT NOW. It's not potential, it's realized traits and effective play ON. THE. FIELD.

Gary could be great. He could be Mike Mamula. I don't know, and you don't either. For him to be a HOFer, he'd have to display consistency that he has never displayed before. That's an uncomfortable projection to make in the top 10. Drafting Gary requires more projection than other top prospects, and projection carries risk that teams don't expect to have to consider that high up in the draft.

I don't get your Peppers point? Many of us, myself included, were concerned that he only had one INT in college, as turnovers are the primary hallmark of a dominant safety (Lott, Polamalu, Reed, Thomas, Easley, etc). Since entering the league, Peppers has 2 INTs in two seasons, and he's hardly universally recognized as a top 10 safety.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
"ridiculous" "pathetic" "b******t"

You can't talk about people the way you do here and not expect them to talk back. You are getting real-life feelings hurt because people have different honest assessments of your favorite player's draft value. Think about that for a second. You then post angrily to and about those people, then claim that it's all about you when people dispute what you have said to and about them. That is not the most mature approach to an intelligent discussion. Like it or not, you are not going to be successful in insulting people or their opinions until they agree with you.

DUDE THE HATERS ARE MORE CONCERNED READING MY POSTS AND TRYING TO DEBUNK THEM WITHOUT ONCE LISTENING TO ME OR WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING...

Cut the buls**t some are more concerned trying to tell me wtf I mean... I know what I mean because I said it...

The haters never bothered or cared to research and look past the 10 sacks until recently...

I don't look at your post and try to tell you what you meant...

I know the games very well just stop. Since the beginning they don't give him a chance because they cannot get past the 10 sack bust theory...

f**k yea it's frustrating when the games continue... Yes but not once I attacked anyone...

True story...

It's not hate, it's fair assessment. You are the angry person here, you are the reactive person here. You are the person ignoring informed opinions and angrily opposing any inconvenient opinions about your guy. Is it really that surprising to you that people dig deeper into draft prospects as the draft approaches? Most of us spent the football season following the 49ers, not the Wolverines.

Is it so hard to ask to dig deeper instead posters telling you what you meant, what you said.. Is it that hard?

How many theories are the haters going to sell? Before they look at the body of work????

Every day I try to come with a new video or footage.....!!!! For perspective and everyday it's f**k you by the haters with no open mind to dig deeper.

Leadership counts, he has alot of other attributes that some simply don't care to research.

I see it. It's transparent

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Is it so hard to ask to dig deeper instead posters telling you what you meant, what you said..

How many theories are the haters going to sell? Before they look at the body of work????

YOU look at the body of work. Then watch an actual edge like Bosa, Burns, or Ferrell and compare the body of work.

You call other people lazy in here constantly, but how much comparative analysis have you actually done? Without looking at other talented DL, how do you know that the opinions of others have no merit. You are locked into your guys (guy, really), but your narrow scope limits your perspective.



You take this thread so seriously that it makes me wonder if you think the 49ers will select a draft pick based on these forums. If the 49ers paid any heed to the zone, they'd have drafted Mahomes or Adams instead of Thomas, lol.

I'm not sure what your goal is here. Are you hoping to persuade 49er fans to love a player that the team is not likely to draft? Are you hoping to increase his draft stock on a fan forum?

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Is it so hard to ask to dig deeper instead posters telling you what you meant, what you said.. Is it that hard?

How many theories are the haters going to sell? Before they look at the body of work????

Every day I try to come with a new video or footage.....!!!! For perspective and everyday it's f**k you by the haters with no open mind to dig deeper.

Leadership counts, he has alot of other attributes that some simply don't care to research.

I see it. It's transparent

Most of these guys are team captains, workout leaders, etc. You should research other 1st round players to broaden your perspective.

Your guy isn't the only guy in the draft.

I call it lazy posting when the haters can't get past the 10 sack bust theory and continue to regurgitate bias b******t..

Yes lazy posting don't take offense. The truth hurts. You cannot spew garbage then calling a personal attack when someone calls it lazy posting...

Sorry but that's what it is when some are more concerned with telling you what you mean instead of listening...

And no it's not conveniently a personal attack...

Some were selling his pros as cons... lmao stop it...

Then take it personal when you correct them, then comes the bias... Then call it a personal attack when you call it lazy posting.. Rinse, Wash, Repeat..

It's transparent, people can see the games..

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Some were selling his pros as cons... lmao stop it...

Then take it personal when you correct them, then comes the bias... Rinse, Wash, Repeat..

You still haven't explained what that means. IMO, his cons are lack of bend, limited hand technique, limited pass rush plan, and lack of counters. Not sure how any of those are pros that anyone has listed.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
I call it lazy posting when the haters can't get past the 10 sack bust theory and continue to regurgitate bias b******t..

Yes lazy posting don't take offense. The truth hurts. You cannot spew garbage then calling a personal attack when someone calls it lazy posting...

Sorry but that's what it is when some are more concerned with telling you what you mean instead of listening...

And no it's not conveniently a personal attack...

There are a lot of things that have been said about Gary beyond the 9.5 sacks. You choose to ignore that and talk around it. That does not make other posters lazy, but it does seem to indicate clear bias on your part to overlook arguments of substance against your guy.

He is tremendously talented, no question. Most evaluators are concerned that those astronomical talents have not allowed him to dominate at the college level. He has the occasional WOW play, but the consistency is simply not there, meaning that he has more "meh" tape than "WOW" tape.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Some were selling his pros as cons... lmao stop it...

Then take it personal when you correct them, then comes the bias... Then call it a personal attack when you call it lazy posting.. Rinse, Wash, Repeat..

It's transparent, people can see the games..

Which people? You are literally the only person making these arguments. Most people have left this thread because it largely features you screaming into the abyss. Who supports your points here? Who has come out in support saying the other posters in here are "haters" or "biased" or "playing games"?

Question for the mods...

Can you tell me many threads have I created and how many have been Michigan threads compared to overall threads?

Were most Michigan threads defensively? Let's bring some context to this repetitive false narrative, that I only create Michigan threads or am worried about?

Let's bring it to the light... 💡 This theory gets old...

Let's end this and bring everything on the table.. How many threads of players have I created?! Vs Michigan players...

How many were defensive threads by Michigan? Since the past 4 years I went from Baalke to drafting....

Let's put everything on the table and let's bring this to the light...... I would encourage it. See if I have anything to hide..

Thank you..