Rashan Gary, EDGE, Michigan

So adding context to the folks that are mistaken on his pros is called bias nowadays.. 🧐

Yea but no.. I would gladly encourage the mods to check so we can end this bias theory to rest already.

It gets old and sidetracks the thread. It's repetitive spew....

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

So adding context to the folks that are mistaken on his pros is called bias nowadays.. 🧐

Yea but no.. I would gladly encourage the mods to check so we can end this bias theory to rest already.

It gets old and sidetracks the thread. It's repetitive spew....

No one cares about your bias we just want to be able to debate the merits of Gary as a possible draft choice in the coming draft without having a wall of tweets (re-using the same tweets) and texts if someone says anything negative about him.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

No one cares about your bias we just want to be able to debate the merits of Gary as a possible draft choice in the coming draft without having a wall of tweets (re-using the same tweets) and texts if someone says anything negative about him.

So then stop spewing rhetoric... I never asked if you cared or how you feel. That's feelings..

I would gladly put all my threads on the table and talk about them to debunk this garbage spew on every page in this thread... That's spamming!!!

I don't have s**t to hide and those theories are manufactured garbage.... Lazy posting to deflect their dislike for the prospect.. You cannot play both sides of the fence. Spew garbage then say you are angry because I debunked their weak sell of his pros used as cons..

God forbid they researched him... More like hate...

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Question for the mods...

Can you tell me many threads have I created and how many have been Michigan threads compared to overall threads?

Were most Michigan threads defensively? Let's bring some context to this repetitive false narrative, that I only create Michigan threads or am worried about?

Let's bring it to the light... 💡 This theory gets old...

Let's end this and bring everything on the table.. How many threads of players have I created?! Vs Michigan players...

How many were defensive threads by Michigan? Since the past 4 years I went from Baalke to drafting....

Let's put everything on the table and let's bring this to the light...... I would encourage it. See if I have anything to hide..

Thank you..

While you are at it, you could ask them to post how frequently you comment in each thread...

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Quote a post that called Gary a bust. I didn't type it, neither did NY, but we are the guys you keep saying that too. Saying he doesn't belong in the conversation as the second overall pick isn't hate; it's logic. There are two players who are clearly better than everyone else in the draft RIGHT NOW. It's not potential, it's realized traits and effective play ON. THE. FIELD.

Gary could be great. He could be Mike Mamula. I don't know, and you don't either. For him to be a HOFer, he'd have to display consistency that he has never displayed before. That's an uncomfortable projection to make in the top 10. Drafting Gary requires more projection than other top prospects, and projection carries risk that teams don't expect to have to consider that high up in the draft.

I don't get your Peppers point? Many of us, myself included, were concerned that he only had one INT in college, as turnovers are the primary hallmark of a dominant safety (Lott, Polamalu, Reed, Thomas, Easley, etc). Since entering the league, Peppers has 2 INTs in two seasons, and he's hardly universally recognized as a top 10 safety.

debunked

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

The only person here scared of what they might see is you. Again, if you are a 49er fan more than a Wolverine fan, why do you only hype Michigan players?Bias, that's why. It's the same reason why you resisted admitting that Gary isn't an edge forever, and only recently shifted your focus to arguing that he's so good of a big end/nickle DT that we should draft a guy at the deepest spot on our roster, just because he's SOOOOOOO good, even though game film doesn't show that to be true. Watching his games shows a lot of talent, limited technique and bend, and a lot of less than instinctive football.

You use his injured shoulder to excuse his poor production, but you won't accept his injured shoulder as a durability concern.

You claim that the defensive scheme limited his production, but you can't explain the scheme to justify your claim.

You quote tweets showing one play at a time and claim to only deal in facts, but you have consistently ignored film breakdowns by respected analysts who look at both his good plays and his bad.

You claim you're mostly hyping him because of a Jersey connection, but you have never hyped a player from the major football school in Jersey (Rutgers).

You claim you're only hyping players from Michigan's #1 defense under Harbaugh, but you were hyping up Frank Clark, who was kicked off the team for knocking his GF unconscious before Harbaugh went to Michigan.

You respond to any critique of your Michigan guys with aggressive posts and claims of "facts" and "unfair evaluations"

What are YOU scared of?

There's some context for ya

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

So then stop spewing rhetoric... I never asked if you cared or how you feel. That's feelings..

I would gladly put all my threads on the table and talk about them to debunk this garbage spew on every page in this thread... That's spamming!!!

I don't have s**t to hide and those theories are manufactured garbage.... Lazy posting to deflect their dislike for the prospect.. You cannot play both sides of the fence. Spew garbage then say you are angry because I debunked their weak sell of his pros used as cons..

God forbid they researched him... More like hate...

Bump.....

No excuses for the spamming and rhetoric bias spew... Rinse Wash Repeat...

Still reaching huh?

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

So then stop spewing rhetoric... I never asked if you cared or how you feel. That's feelings..

I would gladly put all my threads on the table and talk about them to debunk this garbage spew on every page in this thread... That's spamming!!!

I don't have s**t to hide and those theories are manufactured garbage.... Lazy posting to deflect their dislike for the prospect.. You cannot play both sides of the fence. Spew garbage then say you are angry because I debunked their weak sell of his pros used as cons..

God forbid they researched him... More like hate...

Your last comment is pure b******t! We have researched him, hence why we're saying he's not worth the 2nd overall pick. You got very well respected draft analysts all saying he's got issues and at this pt his game is purely a projection.

I haven't read one comment of you being critical of him, nothing. If he was a flawless prospect we would have seen in on the field for two seasons! AZ would be taking him 1st overall and we wouldn't be debating him possibly going to SF.

Your bias lovefest for everything Michigan is blinding you to any issues he has. You get so damn defensive if someone is at all critical of him. People in here are looking at him objectively, not from a fandom point of reference which is what you're clearly doing.

Lazy posts my ass!

Dudes in here pretending they weren't selling his pros as cons.. Lol

Stop it.. At the same time screaming bias.. What you guys fail to comprehend... Is I know these games very well..

You are not getting it.. I know the games you are playing or were with the continued bias, refusal to research further despite the videos, articles and other means I have presented..

You cannot fool me.. I see right through some of the continued games..

More busy or worried about how them can interpret what I say. It doesn't work with me.

I imagine this is what it's like to get Trump to admit he lied.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

I imagine this is what it's like to get Trump to admit he lied.

Sorry but reaching gets you no where. I am allergic to those games and I am very aware to these games. Sorry but I am not sleep walking.

Lol at the weak attempts to make it about me everyday...... Pay attention to the games everyone... lol It's so transparent lmao, silly, 😂

Take the masks off...

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

I imagine this is what it's like to get Trump to admit he lied.

Notice how the reach in comparing you to others. Trump tactics. Deflecting

Little do they know I am very aware in exposing these tactics..

I want to stop coming to this thread. But I can't.

I just can't quit you Wu.

Used car salesman in full effect.