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Apr 5, 2019 at 7:34 PM

krizay
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

It's unreal how people who dislike Bosa like to fudge things up to push a narrative.

We get it ya'll don't like him, you don't have to makup things it's makes you look silly.

And i dont understand how someone cant like him. To want to trade down, draft Allen or Q. I can understand. But to not think he's worthy of the #2 pick is mibd boggling

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Apr 5, 2019 at 7:47 PM

#8777

NYniner85
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Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

It's unreal how people who dislike Bosa like to fudge things up to push a narrative.

We get it ya'll don't like him, you don't have to makup things it's makes you look silly.

And i dont understand how someone cant like him. To want to trade down, draft Allen or Q. I can understand. But to not think he's worthy of the #2 pick is mibd boggling

Agreed

Apr 5, 2019 at 7:51 PM

#8778

BayToBrazil
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Originally posted by KittleSkittle:
I'd rather have QW. The Cards would be a lot better off taking QW too, but Bosa has a recognizable last name, so they'll probably take him instead.

If they do take QW, and we end up taking Bosa or Allen or trading down, it's not the end of the world. There is more than one good player in this draft.

Williams is like the most recognizable name in the US. Well maybe Smith or Brown?

Apr 5, 2019 at 7:54 PM

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tjd808185
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Solly stunted from edge but that's about it. This was all discussed heavily 2 years ago before we drafted him.

Apr 5, 2019 at 8:10 PM

#8780

SFL49ER
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Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

It's unreal how people who dislike Bosa like to fudge things up to push a narrative.

We get it ya'll don't like him, you don't have to makup things it's makes you look silly.

And i dont understand how someone cant like him. To want to trade down, draft Allen or Q. I can understand. But to not think he's worthy of the #2 pick is mibd boggling

I think his ceiling is Everson Griffin. And that's not such a bad thing. But I dont think he will be a Danielle Hunter. In this draft, he is worth a #2 or number 1 overall, but I dont think hes the next Joey Bosa or a passing rushing talent like Melvin Engram.

I would rather draft Quinnen because I believe how much of a wreaking DLine we would have inside. That's it for me. I dont dislike Bosa. I'd be happy to have him anchoring the left side of the line for years

Apr 5, 2019 at 8:15 PM

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LVJay
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Many will argue that he's clearly the #1 pick in the draft and the proof is there. Some don't see it that way because it's mostly opinionated POVs...no one knows how any prospect will be once they begin their career in the NFL.

One thing is for certain, the (injury) track record is there...his dad, brother and himself (high school / college). He can be the best of the best for all we know. Some team will take that chance (maybe us). I just hope he's not another Jason Verrett (one of the best when playing, but hardly plays).

Apr 5, 2019 at 8:34 PM

#8782

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Originally posted by SFL49ER:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

It's unreal how people who dislike Bosa like to fudge things up to push a narrative.

We get it ya'll don't like him, you don't have to makup things it's makes you look silly.

And i dont understand how someone cant like him. To want to trade down, draft Allen or Q. I can understand. But to not think he's worthy of the #2 pick is mibd boggling
I think his ceiling is Everson Griffin. And that's not such a bad thing. But I dont think he will be a Danielle Hunter. In this draft, he is worth a #2 or number 1 overall, but I dont think hes the next Joey Bosa or a passing rushing talent like Melvin Engram.

I would rather draft Quinnen because I believe how much of a wreaking DLine we would have inside. That's it for me. I dont dislike Bosa. I'd be happy to have him anchoring the left side of the line for years

I think his ceiling is Nick Bosa and possibly, if he reaches his max potential, he might even be Nick Bosa. His floor is Definitely Nick Bosa, but if you were asking me, I think he compares to Nick Bosa the most.

Nobody has a clue how good/average/terrible he will be in the NFL, nor does anyone know if Williams or Bosa will be the better player down the road.

Apr 5, 2019 at 8:35 PM

#8783

Cisco0623
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Originally posted by LVJay:
Many will argue that he's clearly the #1 pick in the draft and the proof is there. Some don't see it that way because it's mostly opinionated POVs...no one knows how any prospect will be once they begin their career in the NFL.

One thing is for certain, the (injury) track record is there...his dad, brother and himself (high school / college). He can be the best of the best for all we know. Some team will take that chance (maybe us). I just hope he's not another Jason Verrett (one of the best when playing, but hardly plays).

Yes, but injuries are a concern for any player. Also I love when people say lineage means nothing when it comes to ability and production, but it does when it comes to injury?

Apr 5, 2019 at 8:43 PM

#8784

LVJay
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Yes, but injuries are a concern for any player. Also I love when people say lineage means nothing when it comes to ability and production, but it does when it comes to injury?

So when I mention these type things about Nick, that isn't good enough for you? "Many will argue that he's clearly the #1 pick in the draft and the proof is there, He can be the best of the best for all we know."

BTW we don't have to talk lineage about his dad being all that unless he really was...I don't know about that part.

Apr 5, 2019 at 8:48 PM

#8785

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Originally posted by Baylor:
I think his ceiling is Nick Bosa and possibly, if he reaches his max potential, he might even be Nick Bosa. His floor is Definitely Nick Bosa, but if you were asking me, I think he compares to Nick Bosa the most.

Nobody has a clue how good/average/terrible he will be in the NFL, nor does anyone know if Williams or Bosa will be the better player down the road.

We can certainly think what we want when watching his play and studying him in comparison to others after watching the game of football and try to project what he can become. That's also what forums are for too. To mention it. Well..., most of us make sense in here, not all

Apr 5, 2019 at 8:50 PM

#8786

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Originally posted by Baylor:
I think his ceiling is Nick Bosa and possibly, if he reaches his max potential, he might even be Nick Bosa. His floor is Definitely Nick Bosa, but if you were asking me, I think he compares to Nick Bosa the most.

Nobody has a clue how good/average/terrible he will be in the NFL, nor does anyone know if Williams or Bosa will be the better player down the road.

no s**t

Apr 5, 2019 at 8:55 PM

#8787

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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Yes, but injuries are a concern for any player. Also I love when people say lineage means nothing when it comes to ability and production, but it does when it comes to injury?

Yes, but they're alot more of a concern for some players than they are for other players,...which makes as well as takes away millions of dollars in contract agreements every year in the NFL.

Some guys would be clear HOFs but have to retire after several years,....while others freakishly play 10-12 years without having to miss a game.

We're all built a little differently and it is what it is.

Apr 5, 2019 at 9:11 PM

#8788

Dshearn
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Originally posted by Baylor:
I think his ceiling is Nick Bosa and possibly, if he reaches his max potential, he might even be Nick Bosa. His floor is Definitely Nick Bosa, but if you were asking me, I think he compares to Nick Bosa the most.

Nobody has a clue how good/average/terrible he will be in the NFL, nor does anyone know if Williams or Bosa will be the better player down the road.

no doubt...… the 49ers should just draft any old dude....anyone of them could be the next Tom Brady...…….

On a serious note, people are just going to have to deal with the fact that Forecasting is an in exact science.

Apr 5, 2019 at 9:18 PM

#8789

Waterbear
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Originally posted by Baylor:
Originally posted by SFL49ER:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

It's unreal how people who dislike Bosa like to fudge things up to push a narrative.

We get it ya'll don't like him, you don't have to makup things it's makes you look silly.

And i dont understand how someone cant like him. To want to trade down, draft Allen or Q. I can understand. But to not think he's worthy of the #2 pick is mibd boggling
I think his ceiling is Everson Griffin. And that's not such a bad thing. But I dont think he will be a Danielle Hunter. In this draft, he is worth a #2 or number 1 overall, but I dont think hes the next Joey Bosa or a passing rushing talent like Melvin Engram.

I would rather draft Quinnen because I believe how much of a wreaking DLine we would have inside. That's it for me. I dont dislike Bosa. I'd be happy to have him anchoring the left side of the line for years

I think his ceiling is Nick Bosa and possibly, if he reaches his max potential, he might even be Nick Bosa. His floor is Definitely Nick Bosa, but if you were asking me, I think he compares to Nick Bosa the most.

Nobody has a clue how good/average/terrible he will be in the NFL, nor does anyone know if Williams or Bosa will be the better player down the road.

If he's not as good as Nick Bosa... He could be at least as good as Nick Bosa.

#Kolohelogic #sorryillstop #maybe

[ Edited by Waterbear on Apr 5, 2019 at 9:52 PM ]

Apr 5, 2019 at 10:16 PM

#8790

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Originally posted by Baylor:
I think his ceiling is Nick Bosa and possibly, if he reaches his max potential, he might even be Nick Bosa. His floor is Definitely Nick Bosa, but if you were asking me, I think he compares to Nick Bosa the most.

Nobody has a clue how good/average/terrible he will be in the NFL, nor does anyone know if Williams or Bosa will be the better player down the road.

NY does, he's always right.